Kia Lotze

[HarleyEarl]

Kia Lotze, New Version of U.S. Optima, Makes Korea Debut
Date posted: 12-02-2005

SEOUL — Kia Motors said it will begin to sell its completely redesigned midsize Lotze sedan, which is known as Magentis in Europe and as the Optima in the U.S, sometime in the first half of next year in the two markets.

The all-new Lotze made its debut in its home market of South Korea after the Frankfurt International Motor Show.

For the first time in the D-segment, Kia Motors will be offering customers a choice of gasoline and diesel engines. Available only in European Magentis models, Kia's new 2.0-liter, 140-hp CRDi diesel engine features a variable-geometry turbocharger (VGT) and a diesel particle filter (DPF) as standard, for optimum performance and economy, with Euro4 compliant emissions.

In Australia early next year, Kia Motors plans to sell the Lotze sedan along with its new Grand Carnival minivan. In the home market of South Korea, the new Lotze is expected to compete with its parent company Hyundai's Sonata and Renault Samsung's SM5.

[Cory Wolfe]

I still have the same impression as I had when I first saw it... "Hello, Infiniti Q45."

[sciguy_0504]

I still have the same impression as I had when I first saw it... "Hello, Infiniti Q45 ripoff."

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[Paolino]

Funny, I saw a Lucerne in the front. It must have just been the headlights.

[pow]

The Sonata looks much better... I thought Kia was supposed to be the sporty and youthful brand.

[Whistler]

I think it looks fine. It did rip off the Q45 lights a bit but so did the Lucerne... and hey, whens the last time you saw a Q45 on the road anyway? Its basically a Sonata, so it will be a pretty good car.

[ToniCipriani]

It looks like they took the previous Sonata and gave it new headlights. Bleh.

[caddycruiser]

If you're going to copy the front end of another car, here's a hint: DO NOT xerox the Lucerne's! Well, that is, unless you're intentionally going for blobby, boring, and fat at the same time....

[NOS2006]

Funny, I saw a Lucerne in the front.  It must have just been the headlights.

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That's the first thing I thought of; good call.

[bobo]

This car is about as generically anonymous as you can get in styling. The old Optima had some distinct styling.

[The O.C.]

The Sonata looks much better... I thought Kia was supposed to be the sporty and youthful brand.

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EXACTLY.....!

Kia's definitely making better cars now.....HOWEVER, I find NOTHING sporty or youthful about any of their products.....(at least in comparison to Hyundai, not to mention Honda, Nissan, and Toyota.)

I saw the new Optima in Frankfurt and it's a total bore-fest......BUT it does have a more attractive interior than the Sonata. The center-stack is more conventional looking (re: the radio is not high above the HVAC vents, etc.)

[regfootball]

[regfootball]

this kia makes the new 07 camry look positively stylish!

[ltm_awake]

omg, I had to actually check up and see that the GRAND CARNIVAL does in fact exist in Europe! first off, what a great way to almost steal a name, but botch the transfer in the process. Caravan makes sense, but carnival? what , are you driving a friggin freak show? but then I noticed the ELEVEN PASSENGER SEATING. GRAND carnival, indeed.

[Cadillacfan]

I can read it now: " Another reason why Detroit should be worried" That's the headline all the automags will give this car when it arrives even with the fact that it's a giant sedative on wheels. It will be described as "revolutionary" and "market shattering" when in reality, it brings absolutely nothing new to the market.

[Imaj]

It looks like a Lucerne!! Edited December 11, 2005 by Imaj

[Whistler]

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Absolutely.

It will be no competition from the pinnacles of exciting and modern design that makeup the Malibu and Impala :P . Edited December 11, 2005 by Whistler

[titan]

Funny, I saw a Lucerne in the front.  It must have just been the headlights.

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Yep. That's it in a nutshell.