Should the SE trim make a return?

[ToniCipriani]

Well since Chevy is doing the shift (Base -> LS, LS -> LT...), should Pontiac make a return for the SE trim and make it the base? Pontiac right now explicitly state the base models are "Base", and it sort of sounds odd. The Pursuit currently has an SE trim, but that's equivalent to the Cobalt LT. My idea is like to keep all other trims as is, but rename base to SE. So in a sense SE will be LS, GT will be LT, etc.

[Cory Wolfe]

You bet it should... I've been saying this ever since they did away with it. You can't have a GT without having an SE. It's Pontiac tradition. :D

[pontiaccrest]

How about the LE?

[Flybrian]

How about GT, GTP, GXP? Simple enough. There don't need to be that many trim levels anyway in the vast majority of cases.

[ToniCipriani]

I would reserve GXP for high performance vehicles. GXP has a status to Pontiac as the V-Series is to Cadillac.

[Flybrian]

That's kinda what I was getting at - GT is the base, GTP is the higher trim, and GXP is the performance trim.

[CaddyXLR-V]

How about GT, GTP, GXP? Simple enough.

There don't need to be that many trim levels anyway in the vast majority of cases.

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As long as GT doesnt become what SE was a few years ago. Then in the future GT will mean nothing, and GTP will become the new base model, and GXP being the equivalant of the current GTP.
Thats fine if GT doesnt mean hubcaps, and basically a car with no performance.

[Cory Wolfe]

I don't like the idea of GT being a base model... :blink:

[CaddyXLR-V]

I don't like the idea of GT being a base model... :blink:

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It's fine as long as GT doesn't become watered down, and keeps the performance aspect that previous GTs had.

[Flybrian]

As long as GT doesnt become what SE was a few years ago. Then in the future GT will mean nothing, and GTP will become the new base model, and GXP being the equivalant of the current GTP.
Thats fine if GT doesnt mean hubcaps, and basically a car with no performance.

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In my mind these trim levels would be applied to appropriate cars, in a sense moving the common Pontiac line upwards. No more wheel covers and black plastic mirrors.

Base GT models would come with at least painted black mirrors, flat alloy wheels, AM/FM/CD w/6-speakers, power locks/mirrors, ABS, dual side airbags, and traction control (depending on model).

GTP would provide more standard equipment corresponding to the price level of the model - power windows, traction control, and 4-way power seats on lower models (think Sunfire/cheap G6); Stabilitrak, full-power seats, leather, curtain airbags, etc on higher models.

GXP would provided higher-output engines (V8, s/c'd six, t/c'd four, etc), larger wheels, five- or six-speed autos or six-speed sticks, etc.

[Cory Wolfe]

I still don't like it... :P

I think either GTP or GXP has to go. Keep SE and GT as they have always been (no... not in that way) with one of those as the high performance trim. Preferably, GXP. Although... GT, GTP, GXP has better flow to it... Oh f**k it. Whatever....