Food For Thought

[ocnblu]

In this week's Autoweek "Driver's Log", they tested an '06 Civic Si and an '06 Charger 3.5L SE.

As tested fuel mileage, Civic: 17.79 mpg

As tested fuel mileage, Charger: 23.7 mpg

Now I know they had to rev the piss out of the Civic to get it moving, but this is ridiculous. You know these guys leadfooted the Dodge as well, which makes these results all the more hilarious.

:blink: :lol: Edited November 13, 2005 by ocnblu

[pow]

In this week's Autoweek "Driver's Log", they tested an '06 Civic Si and an '06 Charger 3.5L SE.

As tested fuel mileage, Civic:  17.79 mpg

As tested fuel mileage, Charger: 23.7 mpg

Now I know they had to rev the piss out of the Civic to get it moving, but this is ridiculous.  You know these guys leadfooted the Dodge as well, which makes these results all the more hilarious.

:blink:  :lol:

[post="42302"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]

Or perhaps the Civic was more fun to drive, encouraging the driver to push harder and harder?

[ocnblu]

They praise both cars for their fun-to-drive character, yet the Dodge turned in almost 2 mpg better, on average, than the EPA estimates, and the Honda turned in almost 8 mpg worse than the EPA. I feel these are real-world figures based on the way any enthused owner would drive these cars.

[CSpec]

That's not really fair. The Si is the highest performance Civic, so you should compare its fuel economy to the Charger R/T or SRT-8. I'm sure the regular Civic gets much better economy than the Dodge.

[tmp]

Oh come now, the Charger must outweigh the Civic by about half a ton. The fact that it manage to trounce any Civic at all is something for Dodge to crow about

[regfootball]

most mag tests i've read of hemi equipped cars have been in the 13-17 mpg range....

[ocnblu]

The Honda, a subcompact, about 2800 pounds with 197 hp.

The Dodge, a fullsize, about 3800 pounds with 250 hp.

[sciguy_0504]

Wow. :huh: :unsure: :ph34r:

[Flybrian]

The Civic Si also uses Premium unleaded. That mileage is remarkably similar to that of my car...on a bad day.

[balthazar]

That's not really fair. The Si is the highest performance Civic, so you should compare its fuel economy to the Charger R/T or SRT-8.

The Honda, a subcompact, about 2800 pounds with 197 hp.
The Dodge, a fullsize, about 3800 pounds with 250 hp.

Honda: 14.2 lbs/HP
Dodge: 15.2 lbs/HP
The power/weight ratio is dead on; so is comparing the MPG of these 2. Trim level/heirarchy has no scientific bearing in an economy comparison.

I'm still waiting for someone to post that the civic's MPG numbers are a typo and it gets 27. Hell, my 136K 300CI F-150 gets 16 and I lay into the pedal everyday.

[knightfan26917]

*raises eyebrow*

That HAS to be a type, I would think.... Either the Civic's is actually 10 more than what is listed ... or they switched the MPGs in the notation in the article....

Course, stranger things have happened....


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[Cory Wolfe]

I'm with Cort... that has to be a typo, IMO.

Although, I guess it could happen. I mean, when I drove my GA... it chugged gas. I never calculated gas mileage but it couldn't have been all that great seeing that $5 lasted less than a day... (roughly 30-40 miles...) :unsure:

[NOS2006]

Just cruising tonight, I went through a half tank of gas.

[pow]

It's very possible... full-throttle acceleration with any car yields horrible fuel consumption. I get 1 MPG when I floor any of our cars. Did it include track use?

[ocnblu]

Both cars were timed for speed, I'm sure, although those figures aren't posted in the quick articles. It appears both cars were loaned to AW for about 2 weeks.

[sciguy_0504]

I'm with Cort... that has to be a typo, IMO.

Although, I guess it could happen. I mean, when I drove my GA... it chugged gas. I never calculated gas mileage but it couldn't have been all that great seeing that $5 lasted less than a day... (roughly 30-40 miles...) :unsure:

[post="42454"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]

My Grand Prix chugged gas, too. I remember doing 90-100MPH and actually watching the gas needle drop. That's driving, for sure. I had to get rid of it because gas was killing me but I wasn't doing that speed constantly.

[CaddyXLR-V]

My Grand Prix gets about 25 average. The lowest I have managed, was 18, and that was the day I took it to the drag strip.

[91z4me]

Honda: 14.2 lbs/HP
Dodge: 15.2 lbs/HP
The power/weight ratio is dead on; so is comparing the MPG of these 2. Trim level/heirarchy has no scientific bearing in an economy comparison.

I'm still waiting for someone to post that the civic's MPG numbers are a typo and it gets 27. Hell, my 136K 300CI F-150 gets 16 and I lay into the pedal everyday.

[post="42404"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]

hp to weight doesn't mean jack for fuel economy. It doesn't take gearing or CD into consideration. The Charger seems to get better gas mileage. All this despite being MUCH heavier and having a larger engine AND being shaped like a brick. If anything the Dodge should have gotten MUCH worse mileage than the smaller car with the tiny engine. It goes to show that in the rear world the whole car matters not just numbers.

[knightfan26917]

*nods* As I've heard said about sporting events, "that's why we play the game" ... to show whether or not the "on paper" results actually indicate what the "real world" will be.... I agree...it IS possible, but I don't know ... seems a bit of a stretch to me.... *shrugs* But, then again, what the helk do I know? He he he

[FUTURE_OF_GM]

I'm sure they'll make up some excuse in the next issue and sell everyone on the myth that the Civic is still the superior car... I'm sure the DRASTIC mileage difference wasn't even mentioned either. C.R. ALERT!!!

[cmattson]

If I beat on my Malibu, mileage drops to 30-31mpg. If I baby it, it reaches into 36 mpg.

[chris]

honda's high-performance engines are nothing to write home about when it comes to gas mileage. i get about 25 mpg in the prelude if i drive it nicely the whole tank (that is, keep it below about 5000 rpm). i bet you dollars to donuts they kept it above 5000 rpm as much as possible during their testing. i sure would!