Pre-War Car Photography Orgy

[Sixty8panther]

I think the title is self explanatory.

Feel free to post anything pre-1945,

Although I've always felt that a true

Pre-War car is 1939 or earlier.

I mean wouldn't a 1942 Chevy be a

Mid-WW2 car? My brain hurtz now.

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[Sixty8panther]

[Sixty8panther]

Wow... talk about good DEAL$.

[Drew Dowdell]

I'm disappointed in you Sixty Eight! That's a replica.

Try this:

[Drew Dowdell]

Sixty Eight,

The last time I went to the New Hope auto show, I specifically got these shots for you. They were lost on a dead laptop for a while, but I recently recovered them. So here ya go:

Ultra rare Lincoln. Aluminum body. Was a barn find. One of a very very small number.

This was the best car of the show for multiple reasons....

Hot Packard

Buicks

Jaguar. Don't know the year, but looks pre-war enough.

I have more that you'll like, but they aren't pre-war.

[Sixty8panther]

Wow... that V16 Cadillac is just gorgeous. Thank You.

Looks like either a '30 or '31.

The Packard, 1928? Buick Rumbeseat Roadster

& late 1920s Packard are quite stunning as well.

The photo of the '38 Buick makes me regret, for

about the 3,000th time in recent months that I

did not buy that running/driving '38 Buick Sedan

that was for sale a few years back for $2,800.

The Lincoln's headlighs are awkward, the grille

says late 1930s but the headlights, nice as they

are with their reverse teardrop covers, say 1941.

Same reason I always find Pierce Arrows, even

the really stunning ones, slighty awkward. The

headlights belong inboard on pre-war cars.

The Jaguar is quite interesting, not my cup of tea

but nice. Just make sure Balthazar does not see

it, those recesed grilles are not to his liking.

That "Jaguar" prob. still wears the pre-war "SS"

(Swallow Sidecar) identification.

[balthazar]

>>"Ultra rare Lincoln. Aluminum body. One of a very very small number."<<

I know where there's an aluminum-bodied '33 Model KB V-12- gorgeous restoration. Not sure which model it is, but the owner tells me there were only 15 originally built.

>>"Jaguar. Don't know the year, but looks pre-war enough."<<

Well -snif- being it's a jag, and all that that stylistically implies.... could be a '73.

>>"The Lincoln's headlights are awkward, the grille says late 1930s but the headlights, nice as they are with their reverse teardrop covers, say 1941."<<

Agreed. In actuality, that's a Model K, largely unchanged '36-39. Same guy who owns the '33 has a '39 limo. I love the whole face of this gen Model K, including the headlights. If they were not so well integrated, I could see an arguement against them, like -as you mentioned- the Pierce-Arrow's.

>>"Just make sure Balthazar does not see it, those recesed grilles are not to his liking."<<

Well, they are aesthetically idiotic.

[Drew Dowdell]

>>"Jaguar. Don't know the year, but looks pre-war enough."<<

Well -snif- being it's a jag, and all that that stylistically implies.... could be a '73.

LOL thanks! I got a chuckle out of that!

[Sixty8panther]

[Sixty8panther]

That '27 Chevy is awesome too!!!

[§carlet §wordfish]

My favorite pre-war car of them all:

Rumpler Tropfenwagen: probably the most aerodynamic car of its era

Bugatti 57G

[balthazar]

[balthazar]

[Sixty8panther]

The Bugatti 57G: Where to begin...? It's a plethora of "cheap" & "poor execution"

As far as the most aerodynamic car of its era being the

Rumpler Tropfenwagen, I would argue a few others,

but Balthazar has done it already done so with the

Dymaxion & Scarab...

[XP715]

An offbeat independent I hope to own some day is a 1934-1935 Hupmobile Aerodynamic Eight:

Edited February 13, 2009 by XP715

[Sixty8panther]

The Hupmobile is gorgeous but too modern for me.

Headlights should be on pods.

[§carlet §wordfish]

The Bugatti 57G: Where to begin...? It's a plethora of "cheap" & "poor execution"

Please explain.

Tatra T77

I like the bonnets on old Renaults.

Alfa 40/60 hp, body by Castagna

Edited February 14, 2009 by §carlet §wordfish

[Sixty8panther]

LoL @ WMJ. That Chevy is awesome, it also has more glass

than my house, reminds of British Phone Booth.

[Sixty8panther]

one of my favorite cars of all time, second only perhaps

to the Tiger Hunt V16, this is the Red Devil!

LoL

Here's some of my own photos from car shows of the past few years.

[Drew Dowdell]

*GASP* FRONT PROPELLER DRIVE?!?! :mind-blowing: Sixty Eight! You blasphemer!

Imagine the understeer on that thing!

[Sixty8panther]

Hahahaha-ha!

I know exactly where THIS thread is going now, &

after much arguing some smarta$$, (trying to help?)

will inevitably post:

"Twin-Propeller drive > front or rear propeller drive."

(Is the Cessna SkyMaster the equivalent of Areal AWD?)

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Since you mentioned it, here's a REAR-propeller drive car,

although it's only "pre-war" if you're talking Desert Storm

or the Falkland Islands War.

[Oracle of Delphi]

1926 Pontiac-Boat-Tail Racer

[mustang84]

Random FoMoCo

Edited February 14, 2009 by mustang84

[Sixty8panther]

Gotta love the Submarine shaped Alfa.

As far as the 57G.... uh, where do I start, it's the ANTITHESIS of the Atlantic.

For one thing the stone guards on the headlights look like a redneck with two

weeks in high school shop class experience made them with a rusty sawzall

& a $250 welder from wal*mart.

the body is a blob, the mini-windshield is useless and while it would correct on

a teen's or twenty's spartan race car it looks dumb on this.

And an exotic car/race car should NOT have chicken wire for a grille.

(just MHO)

[balthazar]

The 57C is very crude, it's true. All that could & probably should be excused when the vehicle in question is a purpose-built race car... just don't hold it up as a thing of beauty (which it wasn't). That wasn't asked for in the opening post. I for one don't find the 57C either beautiful or interesting, even among race cars.

I recall the early '60s Pontiac stock cars- they wrapped the acrylic steering wheel rims with electrical tape and fashioned a crude upholstered bolster mounted on a bent metal tube, coming up on the inside of the factory bucket seat, to keep the driver in place. Factory stuff was beautiful, but the race car modifications were, yes, crude. 2 different purposes, tho.

[Sixty8panther]

True, I just felt like stating my opinion.

Max Balchowsky's cars used to kick a$$ & take names,

yet they were very rudimentary, ultra-spartan & hand

built using junkyard parts. That's cool, I know Buick

provided him with motors but he still was a one-man

operation, well, one man & one dog primarily.

But this is BUGATTI we're talking about. You'd think

they had a better budget after building all those over

the top exotic cars. Although I guess producing six

Royalles but only selling two for almost-profit might

have hurt them bad enough financially to have laid-off

their entire design staff for a few years. Har-har.

[balthazar]

It's not so much about money when it comes to most pre-war eruopean makes- most of them just don't place that much significance on the little details.

[Oracle of Delphi]

This car always fascinated me, especially the back wheels.

1938 Mercedes Benz G4 (as in 4WD). Note the 4 rear wheels on 2 axles.

Only 38 of these were ever produced, primarily for the upper military elite of the 3rd Reich. One was given to Italian dictator Benito Mussolini, and others were used in the occupation of Austria and Czechoslovakia. After the war, they were used in fire brigades.

[Oracle of Delphi]

The 1939 Adler Diplomat was a showpiece of German ingenuity. Because of the scarcity of fuel

during and after WWII, this wood-burning, steam-engine car became quite practical.

[balthazar]

How come the '38 German car looks like a '32 American car ?? ;P

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12WD '15 Packard :

Rides like it's on rails, '29 Packard :

Edited February 15, 2009 by balthazar

[§carlet §wordfish]

Yes, the 57G is rather crude being a purpose built race car, but I love the overall shape of it- one of the first single bow designs on a car- and of course I appreciate any car that has been designed with aerodynamics in mind (regardless of how effective it is in that regard.) With some refinements I think it would've made a great, modern looking road car.

[§carlet §wordfish]

In fact, it would probably look something like this:

[Sixty8panther]

There's another very unappealing car. Very poor continuity.

It's like a Kit Car made in China based on a genric design that

is trying to emulate a 1980s Morgan, 1970s Triumph & modern

Aston Martin all at once. That thing makes a Solstice Targa

look like a Cobra Daytona by comparison.

[§carlet §wordfish]

Aaaaand I think I'm done with this thread.

[XP715]

Excellent choice. I've always been a fan of Mack Eagles.

[Sixty8panther]

Sorry my honesty comes off insulting, but I'd thather have

a Hyundai Pony than that thing... it honestly looks like a

Chinese attempt at a Corvette or Viper.

[Sixty8panther]

[Sixty8panther]

Hey WMJ:

Are you sure that's not a spy shot of the upcoming Chinese made

2011 "Aerodynamical Efficient Quoting" by Red Flag Motors?

[balthazar]

pffft- the Stationette owns the Martinette up & down (but it's a '48).

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'41 Chrysler Thunderbolt retractable coupe - 6 built :

1937 Hunt House Car :

Edited February 28, 2009 by balthazar

[ocnblu]

A lot of great pics in this tehread.

[Sixty8panther]

[Sixty8panther]

[Camino LS6]

Possible caption?

"A scene from out of The Grapes of Wrath"

Hey 68, have you seen the little pre-war sportscar in my "race shop" thread?

[balthazar]

[Oracle of Delphi]

1938 LaSalle

[ocnblu]

It's roint by the crushed velvet, modern rolling stock, steering wheel and fiddled dashboard.

[Oracle of Delphi]

It's roint by the crushed velvet, modern rolling stock, steering wheel and fiddled dashboard.

I still wouldn't turn my nose up at it ...

[Oracle of Delphi]

1934 Ford Brewster

[Camino LS6]

I have pics of a local Brewster somewhere - such an odd looking car. Draws a crowd instantly at shows.

[Robert Hall]

I still wouldn't turn my nose up at it ...

Yeah, reupholster the seats, ditch the lameo steering wheel, get some wide whites on wires, and that would be a sweet weekend car show toy.