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Rick And Alan Not Getting On The Bus




The planned cavalcade of chrome fuel-efficient American vehicles from Detroit to DC is “a great idea,” according to GM spokesfolks, but neither the General nor Ford will officially participate in the stunt. Suppliers, dealers and the UAW will make up the bulk of the spectacle, although there’s still a chance that Chrysler’s Bob Nardelli could join in the fun. “The whole grassroots caravan to Washington, D.C., effort we think is a great idea,” said GM spokesman Tom Wilkinson. “It’s just not something we are in a position to sponsor or manage.” You know, like everything else. “As for our mode of transport, it can be safely assumed it will not be by company plane,” Wilkinson said. “For security reasons, we don’t normally comment on transportation of our senior executives. As the date for the hearings gets close, we may provide more details.” And we’ll be waiting with bated breath. The march on Washington is being organized by Dura CEO and Chairman Tim Leuliette, although the Freep gives a hat tip to Automotive News scribe Jason Vines for kinda, sorta coming up with the idea in a column published last Friday. PR man Vines’ advice? Organize the event on the internet and “arm everyone with a short list of facts so they can speak intelligently on camera, as too-often-lazy TV journalists like to find the fattest, dumbest protesters and get them to say something stupid or offensive on camera.” Is this why Red Ink Rick is being kept away?
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If Rick and Bob are on in a car and driving to DC then they may as well kiss any sort of public support away.

If they want to make an effort to gain some support of America they better get out and show they are like the rest of us in the cars they want us to buy on the roads we have to drive.

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If Rick and Bob are on in a car and driving to DC then they may as well kiss any sort of public support away.

If they want to make an effort to gain some support of America they better get out and show they are like the rest of us in the cars they want us to buy on the roads we have to drive.

Yes. There's really no excuse. What better way to drum up support for GM's products and mission than to arrive at the biggest meeting of your life in a GM vehicle?

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Yes, it would...although sometimes prototypes cannot be driven upon "public" roads for liability reasons.

Chris

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Yes, it would...although sometimes prototypes cannot be driven upon "public" roads for liability reasons.

Chris

I am sure the Cruze platform is very streetable. the question would be is the Volt Drivetrain ready to make the run in cold weather. You would not want the press to find Rick on the side of the road with the Hood up.

If they feel it would make it it is a good risk if the drive line is not ready there are other production cars that will fill in fine.

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Yes, it would...although sometimes prototypes cannot be driven upon "public" roads for liability reasons.

Chris

yeah, but I bet if they really wanted to, they could get permits, especially since I'm sure it would be escorted by other vehicles to protect it and be there in case there's any problems. If you can move a house down the road with the right permits, I bet detroit could drive a concept down the road with the right permits & safety precautions. :)

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They could also just say they're bringing Detroit's most fuel efficient vehicles, and invite the press to meet them at Washington. Then, if the Volt mule makes it fine, let them know it was in the group too, and show it off. If the volt has issues, quickly put it in a fully enclosed trailer & send it home, and never mention that it was on the road to begin with. ;)

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Yes. There's really no excuse. What better way to drum up support for GM's products and mission than to arrive at the biggest meeting of your life in a GM vehicle?

+1

For the corporations to not partake in this is both plainly stupid and political/public relations suicide.

I can just see some smart ass congressman grilling them about why they think the companies should be saved if they're not even joining the grassroots efforts to save them.

And BTW, f*ck Jason Vines. The idea came from this website.

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The grassroots aspect of this is fine, but for GM to attempt to manage it or to be seen as prime in it's orchestration would be a clusterf*ck.

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And BTW, f*ck Jason Vines. The idea came from this website.

No kidding, hyperv6 was talking about it days before. This isn't the first time I've noticed the media pick up on something that was said here and take all the credit. Assholes.

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The grassroots aspect of this is fine, but for GM to attempt to manage it or to be seen as prime in it's orchestration would be a clusterf*ck.

I agree with you on that one for sure.

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No kidding, hyperv6 was talking about it days before. This isn't the first time I've noticed the media pick up on something that was said here and take all the credit. Assholes.

I beat Hyper to the punch by a few hours, but that doesn't matter. What amazes me is that both Hyper and I came up with the idea independent of each other 3 days before Detroit figured out it might be a good one.

They should hire us both. :AH-HA_wink:

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For security reasons, we don’t normally comment on transportation of our senior executives.

If they don't participate, I could see this a being a real necessity!

UNf@#kINGBELIEVABLE!

As horrific as the results could be, perhaps chapter 11 is the best solution so these ass-hats can be shown the door.....

v/r

Allen

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I beat Hyper to the punch by a few hours, but that doesn't matter. What amazes me is that both Hyper and I came up with the idea independent of each other 3 days before Detroit figured out it might be a good one.

They should hire us both. :AH-HA_wink:

Somehow I don't think you would make a good fit within GM's corporate culture, or anyones for that matter! :AH-HA_wink:

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Somehow I don't think you would make a good fit within GM's corporate culture, or anyones for that matter! :AH-HA_wink:

To GM's corporate culture,

The only constant in all of your failed relationships is you.

With love,

Oldsmoboi

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at first i liked the idea of arriving in a Volt mule as good publicity. but since its still in testing, there's still a higher chance it could breakdown then say going in a Malibu hybrid. If a breakdown did happen, the media would make a huge deal about it, which isn't what GM needs now

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