Well, it's almost over

[Robert Hall]

YES WE CAN !! YES WE CAN !!! YES WE CAN!!! VICTORY IS OURS!!! 297 EVs for Obama @11pm EST.

HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY

[longtooth]

Its nice to have an election end before 1am.

Yes, but I wonder if this means that Letterman will be delayed...

[Satty]

I'm so happy I could cry. Jill, on the other hand, is so happy she is crying. I'm totally going to make fun of her.

[longtooth]

I can't wait to talk to my Mom and brother in Ohio tommorow..they are going to be sulking. Talked w/ my sister a couple hours ago--she was at the airport bar in Charlotte (flying from San Antonio to Dayton via Charlotte), watching Fox news , optimistic for Obama.

Be gracious in victory. Woo-Hoo!

[A Horse With No Name]

YES WE CAN !! YES WE CAN !!! YES WE CAN!!! VICTORY IS OURS!!! 297 EVs for Obama @11pm EST.

HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY

+1

Chris

[Robert Hall]

Be gracious in victory. Woo-Hoo!

I won't be a jerk...

[A Horse With No Name]

No, I won't either. If we can get the Republican party back on track, we can have a great democracy.

Get rid of the core values of the Bush/Chenny admin and we can have an excellent nation.

There are lots of great people who are Republicans, I wish the best to the Republican party.

Chris

[Drew Dowdell]

GoBama!

[longtooth]

I won't be a jerk...

I know, I was just bustin' 'em on ya. I so pleased with this. My sweetheart sitting next to me is very happy too.

[Robert Hall]

I've just very happy right now..very optimistic for the future of our country. The recent history has been pretty painful.

[A Horse With No Name]

I am optomistic also.

Chris

[longtooth]

I've just very happy right now..very optimistic for the future of our country. The recent history has been pretty painful.

Yeah, I feel that too. What do we do now?

[Satty]

Yeah, I feel that too. What do we do now?

Dance 'til the sun comes up.

[A Horse With No Name]

What do we do now...dig in and spend the next 20 years trying to undo the damange of the last eight. We have hard work ahead of us boys.

Chris

[longtooth]

Dance 'til the sun comes up.

I want to hug a whale, platonically

[longtooth]

What do we do now...dig in and spend the next 20 years trying to undo the damange of the last eight. We have hard work ahead of us boys.

Chris

Heave-to

[Robert Hall]

Dance 'til the sun comes up.

If I didn't have to go to work tomorrow, I'd probably sit in the jacuzzi all night listening to Springsteen and U2 in a happy mood, drinking mojitos..

[Satty]

I'm going to listen to the speech, then go to bed.

[A Horse With No Name]

I'll feel much more like I have a future when I do drive to work.

Chris

[The O.C.]

What do we do now...dig in and spend the next 20 years trying to undo the damange of the last eight. We have hard work ahead of us boys.

Chris

I'd be more seriously concerned about the damage of the next four years......

[A Horse With No Name]

I'd be more seriously concerned about the damage of the next four years......

My son Joel is a McCain supporter and would agree with you 100%. When Obama was talking about the puppy his kids would be taking to the white house, Joel's comment was

"I hope the damned dog pees on the carpet"

Chris

[balthazar]

Seemingly, no one is willing to consider the very real possibility that "change" can just as easily mean for the worse.

A guy named Bill Clinton ran a campaign under the tagline "Change", promising 'no new taxes', got elected partially on the back of that, "took a look at the books" and promptly signed one of the largest tax increases in history. Technically, that would fall under the definition of "change", would it not?

Did anyone in the media ever ask if BO's sponsored $850T World Poverty Act's cost is figured into his ever-shifting promised tax break ? I'm going to guess: no.

[Robert Hall]

Seemingly, no one is willing to consider the very real possibility that "change" can just as easily mean for the worse.

A guy named Bill Clinton ran a campaign under the tagline "Change", promising 'no new taxes', got elected partially on the back of that, "took a look at the books" and promptly signed one of the largest tax increases in history. Technically, that would fall under the definition of "change", would it not?

Let's see, the country was in really good shape when Bill was in office...the economy was booming through the mid and late nineties. Face it, the conservative BS is what got the country in the mess it is in now..it's a failed ideology whose time is past.

[longtooth]

Let's see, the country was in really good shape when Bill was in office...the economy was booming through the mid and late nineties. Face it, the conservative BS is what got the country in the mess it is in now..it's a failed ideology whose time is past.

Molty, here's one for you. The Onion's cynical take on Barack's victory.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/natio...hitty_enough_to

[balthazar]

I thought you never looked back; Clinton was the nineties, ancient history from a different era, no ?

Or are you straight-up advocating a 1-party system ?

[Satty]

Wow, I'm not even sure it has settled in yet. We may not know the magnitude of this election for a generation.

I'm going to go get some post-election euphoria booty, its bound to be good.

[Lamar]

Wow, I'm not even sure it has settled in yet. We may not know the magnitude of this election for a generation.

I'm going to go get some post-election euphoria booty, its bound to be good.

Must be nice, Satty... my prettier half is, ahem, indisposed for a few days...

[Robert Hall]

I thought you never looked back; Clinton was the nineties, ancient history from a different era, no ?

Or are you straight-up advocating a 1-party system ?

Clinton is recent history..I lived through the 90s. It's part of my reality context. The Republicans are going to have to reinvent themselves if they are going to be relevant again. (As far as 1 party, I suspect many conservatives want a theocracy with a dictator for life---I know many of the foaming-at-the-mouth, rabid social conservatives..they are as scary as hell).

Edited November 5, 2008 by moltar

[Oracle of Delphi]

I saw Peggy Noonan on TV today, she was distancing herself from the Republican party. She said she was a Conservative, not necessarily a Republican. Being Republican was just a vehicle for the Conservative movement, when that vehicle no longer serves that function, it's time to look for a new vehicle.

[mustang84]

I think if the Republicans want to succeed, they will have to go the Libertarian route. The younger generations no longer connect with the Bible-belt dominating, socially conservative GOP. Look at the polls tonight...66% of young voters chose Obama. The Republican party's message is tired and dated, and it's only going to get worse in the next 10-20 years.

Edited November 5, 2008 by mustang84

[Robert Hall]

I wonder if a viable 3rd party, a Libertarian party perhaps, could evolve over the next few years. The Republican party as it is now is a pretty damaged brand--it has the image of the white Christian intolerance party, supporting failed economic policies.

Edited November 5, 2008 by moltar

[regfootball]

Let's see, the country was in really good shape when Bill was in office...the economy was booming through the mid and late nineties. Face it, the conservative BS is what got the country in the mess it is in now..it's a failed ideology whose time is past.

only because of the internet, dot com, and y2k boom.

basically the equivalent of the industrial age.

Clinton had no part of it, he just happened to be in power at the time. tax revenue flowed freely as did wages.

Edited November 5, 2008 by regfootball

[longtooth]

I think if the Republicans want to succeed, they will have to go the Libertarian route. The younger generations no longer connect with the Bible-belt dominating, socially conservative GOP. Look at the polls tonight...66% of young voters chose Obama. The Republican party's message is tired and dated, and it's only going to get worse in the next 10-20 years.

Footloose, kick off your Sunday shoes

[Lamar]

I wonder if a viable 3rd party, a Libertarian party perhaps, could evolve over the next few years. The Republican party as it is now is a pretty damaged brand--it has the image of the white Christian intolerance party, supporting failed economic policies.

It would be interesting.

Though I am Christian myself, and always have been, I feel that religious policy should never have become part of a party platform. Church and state should have remained separate, but they haven't, and it hasn't worked well in either direction.

[Robert Hall]

only because of the internet, dot com, and y2k boom.

basically the equivalent of the industrial age.

Yes... I got in the game just at the right time and have ridden it for 10+ years.. it's been a good era to be in internet technology. Even with the dot com bubble, outsourcing, and recent layoffs, my industry still looks strong. Computers and software are so ingrained in business and the mechanisms of the world, there were always be demand..

[regfootball]

until all the mba's ship your job over to india and china.

[Robert Hall]

until all the mba's ship your job over to india and china.

Hasn't happened yet...there have been many examples of failures of outsourced projects. Businesses still have to have developers and architects in the cubes stateside to be successful....

[longtooth]

Yes... I got in the game just at the right time and have ridden it for 10+ years.. it's been a good era to be in internet technology. Even with the dot com bubble, outsourcing, and recent layoffs, my industry still looks strong. Computers and software are so ingrained in business and the mechanisms of the world, there were always be demand..

Until my programmable Cuisinart coffee pot becomes self aware, I'll hail technology too. But I won't fall in love with it.

Edited November 5, 2008 by longtooth

[Robert Hall]

Until my programmable Cuisinart coffee pot becomes self aware, I'll hail technology too. But I won't fall in love with it.

I wouldn't say I'm in love with it, but I do enjoy solving complex problems, building complex systems. It makes me the benjamins... I've invested the last 20 years of my academic and professional life in understanding software development and practicing it.

Edited November 5, 2008 by moltar

[longtooth]

Hasn't happened yet...there have been many examples of failures of outsourced projects. Businesses still have to have developers and architects in the cubes stateside to be successful....

Moltar, (funny name) Just as I admire Michael Jordan for his maximization of his talent, I can admire individuals for striving to stay ahead of the curve by continuously honing their skills. Best wishes.

[knightfan26917]

I got to my polling place right at 6am when it opens and there was already a line waaaaaay into the parking lot of the church.

Heh ... isn't it ironic that we vote in churches? My polling place is a church, too.

Whatever happened to SEPARATION of church and state?

Can't say I was overly joyed at having to WAIT to vote this time around..... Shouldn't we have "express lines" for those of us who vote in EVERY election, regardless of the candidates, the issues, the "importance"? That was the sentiment of a few of us as we waited in the lines this evening. Heck, I waited 3 times as long as I normally do to vote. That's great, of course, but why should those of us who vote in EVERY election wait for those who do not?

Yes, I agree with the media's "historic" characterization of this election.

But, aren't ALL elections historic? Listening to the reports over the last few days, you'd think that this was the ONLY election that has EVER mattered ... that this is the only election that should appear in history books.

AND

...I'm still waiting for ANY political candidate to address the SINGLE population of the United States; all they talk about is helping "families" ... NOTHING whatsoever relevant to me.

...Since politicians are so big on "Minimum Wage" (the lowest hourly amount companies must pay employees), let's hear discussion about a MINIMUM VACATION (the days of vacation companies must at least allot to employees), too!

...Wouldn't it be nice if the politicians' power to raise campaign funds would translate into efforts to raise money for non-profit organizations and those in need?

Cort | 35swm | "Mr Monte Carlo"."Mr Road Trip" | pig valve.pacemaker ... & I approve this post

WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort

"I'm sick & tired of being politically correct" ... John Mellencamp ... 'Peaceful World'

[2005 EquinoxLS]

Heh ... isn't it ironic that we vote in churches? My polling place is a church, too.

Whatever happened to SEPARATION of church and state?

Can't say I was overly joyed at having to WAIT to vote this time around..... Shouldn't we have "express lines" for those of us who vote in EVERY election, regardless of the candidates, the issues, the "importance"? That was the sentiment of a few of us as we waited in the lines this evening. Heck, I waited 3 times as long as I normally do to vote. That's great, of course, but why should those of us who vote in EVERY election wait for those who do not?

Yes, I agree with the media's "historic" characterization of this election.

But, aren't ALL elections historic? Listening to the reports over the last few days, you'd think that this was the ONLY election that has EVER mattered ... that this is the only election that should appear in history books.

AND

...I'm still waiting for ANY political candidate to address the SINGLE population of the United States; all they talk about is helping "families" ... NOTHING whatsoever relevant to me.

Isnt that the truth? Its always about the kids and the families.

...Since politicians are so big on "Minimum Wage" (the lowest hourly amount companies must pay employees), let's hear discussion about a MINIMUM VACATION (the days of vacation companies must at least allot to employees), too!

I would take that also. Companies might complain about that one though. Of course I dont really know what I would do with more vacation. I know that sounds silly. Though I guess I would find something. Maybe a road trip in one or both of the cars?

...Wouldn't it be nice if the politicians' power to raise campaign funds would translate into efforts to raise money for non-profit organizations and those in need?

Yes. And things that help our country first. Then if there is something left see if another friendly country needs help. But US first.

Cort | 35swm | "Mr Monte Carlo"."Mr Road Trip" | pig valve.pacemaker ... & I approve this post

WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort

"I'm sick & tired of being politically correct" ... John Mellencamp ... 'Peaceful World'

[regfootball]

Hasn't happened yet...there have been many examples of failures of outsourced projects. Businesses still have to have developers and architects in the cubes stateside to be successful....

rest assured, they will keep trying until they succeed in that.

[regfootball]

ok, this is nuts. the senate race in my state is 95% reported and still its wayyyyyy too close to call.

Coleman

(Incumbent) 1,141,916 42%

Franken 1,140,507 42%

Barkley 413,413 15%

[ocnblu]

Well I won't pretend to be happy about the results. This country is like an ugly wallflower chick who mistakes a few pretty words from a stranger for a life commitment. We'll feel jilted and sad soon enough.

[Satty]

Has anyone been watching CNN? They're using hologram technology to "beam" people into the studio using 42 camera vantage points. Apparently it's a television first or something.

CNN has a clip of Wolf Blitzer talking to one of these holograms. It really seems pointless. The hologram, that is, not the conversation. Two days ago, journalists were free to go nude from the waist down. Today, not so much.

[Drew Dowdell]

Do you really think the Obama will hurt this country's finances or our freedoms any MORE than GWB has?

Seriously, a ham sandwich would be a better President than Bush has been.

But to all you haters, either we now have a muslim, socialist, racist, commie.......... or you were wrong.

For some of you, I realize that last point will be the most difficult to swallow no matter how true.

[Sixty8panther]

For some of you, I realize that last point will be the most difficult to swallow no matter how true.

So what, this country full of idiots is incapable of

electing based on race?

Supposedly for the past 2.3 centuries we've elected

based on race since most everyone in power was a

WASP... now it's a black guy (muslim, whatever) so

clearly, racism is over, the entire 300 million people

who live here are no longer prejudiced.

No one who voted for Obama voted based on race,

right?

C'mon....

Either way, I wish nothing but prosperity, safety

& freedom to every good-natured American.

[ZL-1]

Seriously, a ham sandwich would be a better President than Bush has been.

:rotflmao: and in case it wasn't better than what President Bush has been, you could always eat it, haha!

Seriously, people who use the "muslim, socialist, racist, commie" arguments are just playing with people's ignorance... most people in America have absolutely no clue about what Socialism and Communism are (except for some Cold War memories), so if someone appears closer to what a European Social-Democrat is they start using the "socialist, commie" label to inflict fear into people... I just hope that the hate talk doesn't feed any right-wing dicks' idea of harming the man...

[Oracle of Delphi]

In the US, most people don't know the difference between National Socialism or Communism, some even think it's the same thing.