"we agree"

[loki]

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=484

The Republican/Democrat duopoly has, for far too long, ignored the most important issues facing our nation. However, alternate candidates Chuck Baldwin, Cynthia McKinney, and Ralph Nader agree with Ron Paul on four key principles central to the health of our nation. These principles should be key in the considerations of every voter this November and in every election.

We Agree

Foreign Policy: The Iraq War must end as quickly as possible with removal of all our soldiers from the region. We must initiate the return of our soldiers from around the world, including Korea, Japan, Europe and the entire Middle East. We must cease the war propaganda, threats of a blockade and plans for attacks on Iran, nor should we re-ignite the cold war with Russia over Georgia. We must be willing to talk to all countries and offer friendship and trade and travel to all who are willing. We must take off the table the threat of a nuclear first strike against all nations.

Privacy: We must protect the privacy and civil liberties of all persons under US jurisdiction. We must repeal or radically change the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, and the FISA legislation. We must reject the notion and practice of torture, eliminations of habeas corpus, secret tribunals, and secret prisons. We must deny immunity for corporations that spy willingly on the people for the benefit of the government. We must reject the unitary presidency, the illegal use of signing statements and excessive use of executive orders.

The National Debt: We believe that there should be no increase in the national debt. The burden of debt placed on the next generation is unjust and already threatening our economy and the value of our dollar. We must pay our bills as we go along and not unfairly place this burden on a future generation.

The Federal Reserve: We seek a thorough investigation, evaluation and audit of the Federal Reserve System and its cozy relationships with the banking, corporate, and other financial institutions. The arbitrary power to create money and credit out of thin air behind closed doors for the benefit of commercial interests must be ended. There should be no taxpayer bailouts of corporations and no corporate subsidies. Corporations should be aggressively prosecuted for their crimes and frauds.

[balthazar]

Generally, I can get behind #2-4.

But #1 seemingly assumes there are rational, sensical people across all the 'world tables', and removing implied threat & sanctions & troops would result in the wacka-doos simply going into their backyards and barbequeing with their families. Unfortunately they have sworn, and are religiously mandated to kill us if they get/make the chance.

Only the most naive think Achmadenijad is going to happily follow along with a stammered, stuttered pleading to disarm.

[loki]

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Ron_Paul_off...party_0910.html

the video of his asking people to to at least look at "third parties", and the people that don't vote, to vote for the best person in the field.

[Camino LS6]

I'm with Balthazar generally.

But here's another idea, we could start trying to lead by example - better for us and better for the world.

I'll leave it there for now.