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for her age, McCain's wife ...is attractive, right?

now his VP... attractive, right?

is this a trend? should we be surprised?

who else is out there as women in "power" are in this league too?

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McCain's VP is quite attractive for a politician.

I smell a scandal! lol

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McCain's VP is quite attractive for a politician.

I smell a scandal! lol

I bet McCain has stocked up on his Viagra or Cialis.

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My friend was commenting yesterday about how hot McCain's daughter is.

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Meh...looks like a typical Scottsdale blonde....I don't care for blondes..too generic. Brunettes and redheads are more my taste..

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Apparently, Palin's (17) is pregnant now.

Yes, which is hilarious, since the social conservatives in the party's base are always preaching about chastity and saving one's self for marriage. I've never understood the social conservatives--prudish about sex, but obsessed with guns.

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Yes, which is hilarious, since the social conservatives in the party's base are always preaching about chastity and saving one's self for marriage. I've never understood the social conservatives--scared to death of sex, but obsessed with guns.

True Social Conservatives (ie Goldwater era Conservatives) are all about not getting in others way as long as they aren't hurting anybody (Goldwater himself was pro Homosexuals in the Military, pro choice etc, and said once that Jerry Falwell aught to be kicked in the ass...) Religious zealots who hijacked the Republican party and the term "Social Conservative". In my world Religious special interest groups won't be allowed to dictate the platform of a party.

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Yes, which is hilarious, since the social conservatives in the party's base are always preaching about chastity and saving one's self for marriage. I've never understood the social conservatives--scared to death of sex, but obsessed with guns.

i don't know about that. i know several conservatives that are not afraid of sex...they have more than 1 child. but you're talk about one's offspring... again, sarah has what, 5 or 6 children.

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Her daughter's pregnancy is none of our business, and I can't help thinking that we'd all be better off not knowing such a private thing about other people's daughters.

That said, I will never understand the agenda of the religious right.

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Families should be off limits, the Bush twins drinking thing a few years ago should have never made the news. Its just the tabloid mentality this nation has. The religious right has taken the Republican party off the deep end, McCain/Palin isn't going to do anything to bring it back.

I just find it amazing that there are stories everywhere about Palin's daughter, but nary a word about the ethics investigation she's under in Alaska. You know there is something when a Republican-led legislature brings a special investigator in to look at a Republican governor for abuse of power.

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Families should be off limits, the Bush twins drinking thing a few years ago should have never made the news. Its just the tabloid mentality this nation has. The religious right has taken the Republican party off the deep end, McCain/Palin isn't going to do anything to bring it back.

I just find it amazing that there are stories everywhere about Palin's daughter, but nary a word about the ethics investigation she's under in Alaska. You know there is something when a Republican-led legislature brings a special investigator in to look at a Republican governor for abuse of power.

Agreed on the families and the tabloid mentality, but as to that investigation, that might be a case of payback for her exposure of other corrupt Republicans. I think she ticked-off the good 'ol boy network.

Her positions on social issues disturb me, but she seems to have an overall honesty about her.

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Agreed on the families and the tabloid mentality, but as to that investigation, that might be a case of payback for her exposure of other corrupt Republicans. I think she ticked-off the good 'ol boy network.

Her positions on social issues disturb me, but she seems to have an overall honesty about her.

She has the huntin', fishin', gun worshipin' credentials that will appeal to the rural folk, I think...but isn't remotely qualified to be VP, IMHO.

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One thing I have to give Bush credit for, he picked a running mate with Washington experience who could ease concerns. Cheney may be evil, but he was wholly qualified for the job.

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This shouldn't matter nor effect her campigen. Just like Obama being born when his mom was only 18. As I always say what the hell does this have to do with the price of tea in China?

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The hits keep coming for Palin. So far this weekend:

-Her mother-in-law said she brings nothing to the ticket besides being a conservative woman.

-Her husband's 20-something year old DWI became public.

-Her unwed teenage daughter's pregnancy became public.

-It was discovered that she was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, which is hell bent on getting Alaska to secede from the union.

Ok, so she's attractive and appeals to the base, but couldn't McCain have dug a little deeper? All this is withing 4 days of her being announced.

While none of this (except maybe the AIP part) should matter, it will to the voters.

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The hits keep coming for Palin. So far this weekend:

-Her mother-in-law said she brings nothing to the ticket besides being a conservative woman.

-Her husband's 20-something year old DWI became public.

-Her unwed teenage daughter's pregnancy became public.

-It was discovered that she was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, which is hell bent on getting Alaska to secede from the union.

Ok, so she's attractive and appeals to the base, but couldn't McCain have dug a little deeper? All this is withing 4 days of her being announced.

While none of this (except maybe the AIP part) should matter, it will to the voters.

Well since I can't sleep I will comment. - I'm loving it.

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attractive mature young girl, this stuff happens. i can only imagine how many young boys were trying to get with that.

to some degree the repubs need to stop being the moral majority becuase when this happens, it makes them lok a bit hypocritical. at the same time, the appearance i get is of a tight knit family that despite typical issues like this that occur in every family, they have their $h! together for the most part and will handle this life change in a supportive way.

my question would be, did you use birth control, or maybe its none of my business....and we all know that the main goal of many young boys is simply to find attractive girls like that and attempt to have sex with them. we always blame the women, but until we start cutting off some young boys' tools, its equal fault in my book.

we all focus on who gets caught, when we should be focusing on can we simply abstain or at least use birth control as much as possible? Boys that age will hump just about anything, can't we try to talk them into humping something besides an ovulating girl? can we at least say the classic bj is an appropriate substitute to the honey pot?

As much of Palin is getting exposed, at least she doesn't appear to be a big fricking useless joke on society like Hillary.

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Boys that age (AND EVEN OLDER) will hump just about anything, can't we try to talk them into humping something besides an ovulating girl? can we at least say the classic bj is an appropriate substitute to the honey pot?

As much of Palin is getting exposed, at least she doesn't appear to be a big fricking useless joke on society like Hillary.

Fixed

:unitedstates: REG for President, REG for President!!!!! :unitedstates:

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As much of Palin is getting exposed, at least she doesn't appear to be a big fricking useless joke on society like Hillary.

Don't be dissin' Hillary..she's infinitely more qualified than a right winger NRA hockey mom from nowheresville...

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satty, i don't think being part of the AIP should be a problem, unless you subscribe to the union is holy and nothing shall break it, civil war idea.

and it's near impossible to find politicians of any age without a mark in their past, sometime. sadly being human/imperfect is what we are all...<here comes PCS comment> LOL

lots of things are just "tabloid issues"...but when everything is that way, we can miss the truly disturbing failings of one's character.

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Don't be dissin' Hillary..she's infinitely more qualified than a right winger NRA hockey mom from nowheresville...

infinity x (what sounds like 0) = 0. :lol:

you know, "the hill", i heard she was a conservative way back when... but i have no links a.t.m. to that idea.

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Loki, why would you ever think I was perfect? I did make one mistake once, a long, long time ago! :smilewide:

being born? OOHHHHH!!!! in your face, sup now?!! :lol:

edit: i didn't say that, i just think you like to comment on truths being very silly, or comment on the silly, being even more silly.

taking the silly to the sexual level is what Satty is here for.

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Yes, which is hilarious, since the social conservatives in the party's base are always preaching about chastity and saving one's self for marriage. I've never understood the social conservatives--prudish about sex, but obsessed with guns.

i forgot to comment on the second part more fully, and editing my earlier post would not help.

it's about respecting life. sex - the ramifications of unwanted responsibilities even if both parties were "being safe". the only 100% guaranteed way to not get pregnant is abstinence. guns.. self protection... "don't try to injure me, or you might not live to see another day, so just stay back if you're hostile"

prudish, maybe, but it's another thing to totally disregard, block out, the natural curiosity of "younger adults".

people do like to tell other people what to do too much.

..........what has this thread turned into??!!! look out for the admins/mods, they're coming!!!!!!! :lol: yep, any minute now.. hehe

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>>"She has the huntin', fishin', gun worshipin' credentials that will appeal to the rural folk, I think...but isn't remotely qualified to be VP, IMHO."<<

>>"Don't be dissin' Hillary..she's infinitely more qualified than a right winger NRA hockey mom from nowheresville..."<<

Whoa. The 'hockey mom' is infinitely more qualified than a radical socialist left winger with 6 months federal experience, who never had to make an executive decision in his entire life. At least she's accomplished positive things in her career... as opposed to..... nothingsville.

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I just see a small problem when a person who is a heartbeat away from being the leader of the union was once (and for all we know, still is) part of a group that wants to partially dissolve that union. Hell, here there is a video clip of a party official saying AIP members should "infiltrate" the major parties.This isn't really a minor blemish, this is a woman who is associated with extremist right wingers.

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Until you said 'woman', I thought you were talking about someone else.... tho of course there, there are many more than just 1 alleged instances of association with extremism & 'union dissolving'.

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I just see a small problem when a person who is a heartbeat away from being the leader of the union was once (and for all we know, still is) part of a group that wants to partially dissolve that union. Hell, here there is a video clip of a party official saying AIP members should "infiltrate" the major parties.This isn't really a minor blemish, this is a woman who is associated with extremist right wingers.

Yes... Satty feels the same way I do. We have separatists in Canada (for the succession of Quebec). We let them have their opinions, but would we want them to run the country? NO.

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the idea of self determination, brought up in the The Treaty of Versailles, has been behind these movements. i think.

AIP on wiki.

The Alaskan Independence Party maintains that Alaska's vote for statehood is "invalid" because "the people were not presented with the range of options available to them" and because "federal government has since breached the contract for statehood".
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Anyone and everyone these days get sh*t dug up on them. Its a fact of life.

Generally, that stuff happens BEFORE being offered the job of Vice President.

This isn't about Palin at all. This is McCain's first Presidential decision. He needed to pick someone who was a suitable vice president for a 74 year old 5 time face cancer survivor.

Palin is the Governor of a state with a total population equal to that of Nashville Tennessee; less than the population Allegheny County where Pittsburgh is located. In that one regard, Dan Onorato, Allegheny County's Executive is more qualified than Palin to be Vice President.

Palin was mayor of a town of 6,000..... less than most small state colleges.

Palin has fired or attempted to fire anyone who opposes her. Including a the well respected city librarian who refused to remove books from the library that Palin found offensive. Remind you of anyone?

From Lincoln though Clinton, Americans have frequently been willing to gamble on a relatively inexperienced President, exchanging some assurances of near-term readiness for longer-term upside (what might be described as "vision"). But the optimal skill set for a vice president is somewhat different. "Vision" hardly matters; a vice president taking over for a president will not get to name his own cabinet, and will initially at least be left to execute upon somebody else's agenda. Instead, the readiness component is rendered more important.

In a perfect world, we would all like a president who is Ready on Day One ™; it is not uncommon for a newly-elected president to face a major crisis almost immediately upon taking office. But more commonly, a president takes the Oath of Office under relatively calm waters, allowing them something of a learning curve.

On the other hand, when a vice president takes over for a president, the nation is necessarily undergoing a crisis, because the death (or resignation) of a president is perhaps as traumatic an event as can reasonably be imagined (in the "best" case resulting from a slowly-developing illness, and the worst, an attack by terrorists or foreign adversaries).

This picture embodies what is perhaps the essential difference between the qualifications for the presidency and the qualifications for the vice presidency.

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FiveThirtyEight.com

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Generally, that stuff happens BEFORE being offered the job of Vice President.

This isn't about Palin at all. This is McCain's first Presidential decision. He needed to pick someone who was a suitable vice president for a 74 year old 5 time face cancer survivor.

Palin is the Governor of a state with a total population equal to that of Nashville Tennessee; less than the population Allegheny County where Pittsburgh is located. In that one regard, Dan Onorato, Allegheny County's Executive is more qualified than Palin to be Vice President.

Palin was mayor of a town of 6,000..... less than most small state colleges.

Palin has fired or attempted to fire anyone who opposes her. Including a the well respected city librarian who refused to remove books from the library that Palin found offensive. Remind you of anyone?

Bingo... doesn't matter what political party, she is totally unqualified to be president. This makes McCain's judgment look very poor---the Repubs have many more qualified women--Christine Todd Whitman, for example? Or men--why not Tom Ridge? Mitt Romney?

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