2009 GM Car & Truck Guide

[Derek77]

http://www.gmfleet.com/

A few, somewhat, interesting things shown:

• 2008 mileage is still shown.
• The Aveo 5 mileage is up from the 26city/34hwy they said at it's debut to 27city/35hwy.
• The picture of the Malibu they show doesn't have the front side marker light.
• Bluetooth on the G8 will be a late availabillity item.
• The XLR's new face can be seen on page 52.
• The best photoshop EVER of new wheels on the Tahoe Special Services model can be seen on page 126.

[loki]

says the lucerne gets the 3.6L WOW.... in mpg

but the alt fuels says it's the 3.9L. they confused themselves.

solstice coupe available in jan 2009

[regfootball]

STS says active steering is an option.

[ponchoman49]

The Saturn Aura is shown in both hybrid and regular models with no bodyside moldings. That sucks! Hopefully they are at least available as an option. Also is doesn't say that the Lucernes 3900 engine is AFM which would mean that it's getting the low output 227 HP version as installed in the G6 which is rated at a stunning 15/22 MPG, yikes! The should have just left the 3800 in there.

Edited May 13, 2008 by ponchoman49

[RJB]

They don't show the Malibu having the 4cyl with the 6-speed trans, what gives?

[loki]

The Saturn Aura is shown in both hybrid and regular models with no bodyside moldings. That sucks! Hopefully they are at least available as an option. Also is doesn't say that the Lucernes 3900 engine is AFM which would mean that it's getting the low output 227 HP version as installed in the G6 which is rated at a stunning 15/22 MPG, yikes! The should have just left the 3800 in there.

the g6 does not have the AFM motor. the impala 's 233 hp is.

[2QuickZ's]

They don't show the Malibu having the 4cyl with the 6-speed trans, what gives?

My guess would be fleet gets 4 speeds only.

[C.H.U.D.]

Who else is intrigued by the HHR SS Turbo Panel?

I find it sad that the small pickups get no updates to go with the newly available V8. Just another case of GM having too many mouths to feed.

Where's the epsilon 2-mode models?

[loki]

Where's the epsilon 2-mode models?

I think you're thinking 1 or 2 years too far ahead.

[gm4life]

I see six speed autos coming into mainstream product that is making me very happy.

[Paolino]

It lists the DTS performance package and the Lucerne Super as having 300hp on page 20.

[daves87rs]

Just a v8 in those small pick ups?

[The O.C.]

'09 CTS......

In the fuel economy section, it mentions the mileage for all the variants...including the 6-speed manual and non-DI 3.6L.......but NO mention of the 6-speed manual now with DI engines.....

I HOPE they did not cancel the 6-speed manual option on the top-level DI 3.6L engine offering!!!!!!!

If they did, then.....unfortunately.....the CTS won't be on my shopping list when my '07 CTS lease is up in 2 years.......(maybe they'll keep it an option in the Coupe.....then I might stay in the family....)

[daves87rs]

'09 CTS......

In the fuel economy section, it mentions the mileage for all the variants...including the 6-speed manual and non-DI 3.6L.......but NO mention of the 6-speed manual now with DI engines.....

I HOPE they did not cancel the 6-speed manual option on the top-level DI 3.6L engine offering!!!!!!!

If they did, then.....unfortunately.....the CTS won't be on my shopping list when my '07 CTS lease is up in 2 years.......(maybe they'll keep it an option in the Coupe.....then I might stay in the family....)

Mid year add on, maybe?

[The O.C.]

Mid year add on, maybe?

Well, they had it available with the DI V6 all during '08.....????

[gmcbob]

A couple of questions/ideas that seem appropriate for this post.

Are they going to offer the diesel version of the CTS that I read about for Europe over here in the States?

What do you guys think the possibility of a rear drive Zeta based Buick with the new 4.5L Diesel that's going in the trucks? (assuming they're still considering a RWD Buick for the States like the China Park Avenue). Or is that too outside the box for GM?

[Paolino]

A couple of questions/ideas that seem appropriate for this post.

Are they going to offer the diesel version of the CTS that I read about for Europe over here in the States?

What do you guys think the possibility of a rear drive Zeta based Buick with the new 4.5L Diesel that's going in the trucks? (assuming they're still considering a RWD Buick for the States like the China Park Avenue). Or is that too outside the box for GM?

I could see the 4.5L Diesel as an option for the Zeta Buick... that would be a great idea. However, they'd still have to offer a regular V8. I can't imagine many customers would go for the diesel. I still think people equate modern diesels with those of years ago--dirty and possible pain in the ass.

[FUTURE_OF_GM]

Interesting that they list the Z06 as an option on the Corvette as opposed to a seperate model (ZR1 is a seperate model) Rumors are swirling that the Z06 is history pretty soon anyway. I hope that isn't the case as I would take a Z06 over the ZR1 any day of the week.

Or, is GM preparing us for something with the C7, like maybe a split line up.

Same thing with Vibe GT...

18s on Impala SS... NICE!

G8 is considered midsize? It seems really big to be classified that.

So it and G6 could be competing for a future? Or Alpha could be expanded to replace Zeta?

The Aura looks like sh*t without the door molding.

I thought the N* was always standard on the Lucerne Super.

YAY! The 9-5 gets better window switches! (Yawn... You european boys sure know how to make things exciting!)

*Looks like this guide is about as schizo as GM is in general.

[Paolino]

18s on Impala SS... NICE!

Where did you see them?

[FUTURE_OF_GM]

Where did you see them?

I didn't, just saw the option.

I'm willing to bet that they're the 10 spoke units that have been available through GM Accessories for a while now

[Blake Noble]

Hmm ... I can't seem to find the XLR pic.