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this was from the Pope at the White House today.

“Freedom is not only a gift, but also a summons to personal responsibility. Americans know this from experience — almost every town in this country has its monuments honoring those who sacrificed their lives in defense of freedom, both at home and abroad. The preservation of freedom calls for the cultivation of virtue, self discipline, sacrifice for the common good and a sense of responsibility towards the less fortunate. It also demands the courage to engage in civic life and to bring one’s deepest beliefs and values to reasoned public debate. In a word, fredom is ever new.”...

“In reflecting on the spiritual victory of freedom over totalitarianism in his native Poland and in eastern Europe, [John Paul]reminded us that history shows, time and again, that ‘In a world without truth, freedom loses its foundation,’ and a democracy without values can lose its very soul (Centesimus Annus, No. 46). These prophetic words in some sense echo the conviction of President Washington, expressed in his FArewell Address, that religion and morality represent ‘indispensable supports’ of political prosperity.”...

“Democracy can only flourish, as your founding fathers realized, when political leaders and those whom they represent are guided by truth and bring the wisdom born of firm moral principle to decisions affecting the life and future of the nation.”" ...

any comments about it?

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I am not going to comment on remarks made by a person who represents an institutution that has impeded human progress for 2 thousand years. Copernicus, condoms in Africa are just two examples. The ancients were far more advanced than what the papacy allowed during the Dark Ages.

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I am not going to comment on remarks made by a person who represents an institutution that has impeded human progress for 2 thousand years. Copernicus, condoms in Africa are just two examples. The ancients were far more advanced than what the papacy allowed during the Dark Ages.

yes, the "ancients" were vastly ahead of of us 2000 years ago... and your 2000years is over doing it, it's more like from the fall of the R empire to the enlightenment whish was about 1000 years. but that's like still holding a grudge that your father holds because you grandfather holds one from his father...and so on. or at least hating japanese, italians and germans for WW2

Pope's (and GWB) definition of American Freedom = Christian Theocracy.

This speech is Hypocrisy on most high.

i think you don't know 2 main ideas the church stands for, freedom and responsibility. that is the opposite of GWB and just what our constitution is about. ( i'm not saying the US's constitution is a religiously founded paper. )

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