2009 Chevrolet Trucks Official Changes

[caddycruiser]

Avalanche

Deletions

(3LT) Equipment Group

(VPA) Chrome Appearance Package

(N93) 17" x 7.5" aluminum wheels

(31*) Ebony/Light Cashmere interior trim

(**D) Custom Cloth

(GT4) 3.73 rear axle ratio

(GT5) 4.10 rear axle ratio

(M30) 4-speed automatic transmission

(M70) 4-speed automatic super-duty transmission

(DF5) inside rearview auto-dimming mirror with 8-point compass and outside temperature display (compass and temperature display now in Driver Information Center)

(56U) Sunburst Orange Metallic

New Features

(28U) Inferno Orange Metallic

(S80) Wheels, 4 - 20" x 8.5" Chrome clad wheels (Available on 2LT)

(K5L) Heavy Duty Trailering Package: includes (KNP) transmission oil cooler and (KC4) engine oil cooler, provides increased trailering capabilities

(MYC) 6 Speed Transmission (standard on all models

(PCK) Luxury Package (only available on 2LT), includes (AN3) front bucket seats with leather-appointed seating, (KA1) heated front seats, (DL3) outside heated power-adjustable, power-folding mirrors and (DD8) inside reaview auto-dimming mirror

(GU4) 3.08 rear axle ratio (2WD only)

(GU6) 3.42 rear axle ratio

(33*) Dark Cashmere/Light Cashmere interior trim

(**C) Select Cloth

(JL1) Integrated trailer brake controller

Bluetooth for phone, personal cell phone connectivity to vehicle audio system and HMI (Human Machine Interface), with specific steering wheel controls (standard on all models)

(DRC) Rear Camera Display included in ISRV mirror

(UBS) XM Satellite Radio with Real Time XM Traffic download for all Navigation radios

Navigation destination download for all Navigation radios

Changes

(PDD) Convenience Package: Includes: Power Adjustable Pedals (JL4), Remote Start (AP3), Utrasonic Park Assist (UD7), Rearview Camera system (UVC), ISRV Mirror with Rear Camera Display (DRC)

Temperature and Compass display moves to Driver Information Center

New seat fabric on LS and 1LT models

LTZ enhancements: New Body Side moldings, Chrome tip on shift lever, Door Sill plates with "LTZ", Center Channel Bose Sound System, Heated and Cooled Seats with Perforated Leather

Z71 Package: Door handles and mirror caps will be body colored. Grill insert will be bright chrome

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Colorado

Deletions

LS models

(YC1) LS decor

2WT Chassis Cab equipment group

2LT Regular Cab equipment group

(UC6) AM/FM stereo with 6-disc CD changer

(AM6) 60/40 split bench seat in LS cloth only

4-spoke Deluxe steering wheel (urethane)

(B84) bodyside moldings on Regular and Extended Cab models

Small wheel flares

Traction control

(20U) Pace Blue exterior color

(37U) Imperial Blue Metallic exterior color

(92D) Medium Pewter cloth

New Features

(48U) Deep Navy exterior color

(61U) Aqua Blue Metallic exterior color

1VL equipment groups for 2WD Extended and Crew Cabs

Bedliner is standard on all models (except Chassis)

New 16" and 17" tires and wheels

(LH8) 5.3L V8 SFI engine

(KG3) 145-amp alternator

(C8S) 5500 lb. GVWR

(GT5) 4.10 rear axle ratio

(GU6) 3.42 rear axle ratio

StabiliTrak is standard (includes traction control)

Changes

Color-keyed bodyside moldings are standard on Crew Cabs with (Z85) and (Z71) suspensions

Color-keyed and chrome door handles, tailgate handles and mirrors are standard on Extended and Crew Cabs

Color-keyed appearance is standard on 1LT equipment groups

(Z71) grille has changed to a chrome bar with a color-keyed surround

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Equinox

Deletions

(15U) Sandstone Metallic exterior color

(44U) Granite Gray Metallic exterior color

(67U) Silverstone Metallic exterior color

(QZ7) Wheels, 4 - 17" x 7" polished forged aluminum

New Features

(17U) Silver Ice Metallic exterior color

(51U) Gold Mist Metallic exterior color

(57U) Cyber Gray Metallic exterior color

(ASF) Air bags, head curtain side-impact, front and rear outboard seating positions with rollover sensor now standard on all models

(U2K) XM Satellite Radio standard on all models

(UPF) Bluetooth for phone, personal cell phone connectivity to vehicle audio system and HMI (Human Machine Interface)

http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/domestic/...691&type=0#

HHR

Deletions

(15U) Sandstone Metallic exterior color

(56U) Sunburst Orange II Metallic exterior color

(67U) Silverstone Metallic exterior color

(US9) AM/FM stereo with 6-disc in-dash CD changer

(N85) 17" painted aluminum wheels

(QP2) 17" forged, high-polished aluminum wheels

(J41) Front disc/rear drum brakes

(L61) 2.2L ECOTEC engine

(LE5) 2.4L ECOTEC engine

(K05) Engine block heater

(PDU) Enhanced Sound Package

(PCW) Enhanced Safety Package

New Features

1AU26 Panel SS Turbocharged model

(17U) Silver Ice Metallic exterior color

(51U) Gold Mist Metallic exterior color

(61U) Aqua Blue Metallic exterior color

(17A) Smoke accent single stripe color

(96A) Silver accent single stripe color

(47A) Smoke/Smoke accent double stripe color

(49A) Silver/Silver accent double stripe color

(ASA) Dual-stage, frontal driver and front passenger air bags with infant only suppression standard on LS and LT models

(AK5) Dual-stage, frontal driver and front passenger air bags with Passenger Sensing System standard on SS Turbocharged models

(UPF) Bluetooth for phone, personal cell phone connectivity to vehicle audio system and HMI (Human Machine Interface)

(UUI) AM/FM stereo with CD player and USB port

(UAF) Reconfigurable performance display available for SS Turbocharged models

(U2J) XM Satellite Radio delete

(P23) 17" Chrome-Tech cast aluminum wheels

(LE8) 2.2L ECOTEC engine, includes (E85) FlexFuel (gas ethanol) capability, uses gasoline or E85 fuel

(LE9) 2.4L ECOTEC engine, includes (E85) FlexFuel (gas ethanol) capability, uses gasoline or E85 fuel

Changes

(ASF) front and rear outboard head curtain side-impact air bags are now standard on all models

(U2K) XM Satellite Radio is now standard on all models

(US8) AM/FM stereo with CD player and MP3 playback now standard on all models

(JL4) StabiliTrak electronic stability control system is now standard on all models

(NW9) All-speed, full-function traction control is now standard on all models

(JM4) 4-wheel antilock, front disc/rear drum brakes now standard on all LS and LT models

Front console now has 3 front cup holders except on SS models with manual transmission

(AA5) Solid rear quarter panel is now available on 1AU46 SS

Window switches moved to door

Revised dome lamp placement

Seat bolster material change

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[caddycruiser]

Silverado 1500

Deletions

(25U) Dark Blue Metallic

(81U) Desert Brown Metallic

(**D) Select Cloth Interior Trim

2LT Equipment Group

(PDD) 1LT Convenience Package

(PDD) 2LT Convenience Package

(V54) Luggage rack side rails

(PCL) California Package

(PCQ) Limited Personalization Option

(P58) 20" aluminum wheels

(QPO) Tires, P245/70R17 all-season, White outlined-letter

(M70) Transmission, 4-speed automatic, super-duty

(UY2) Trailering wiring provisions

New Features

(37U) Imperial Blue Metallic

(58U) Black Granite Metallic

(33I) Dark Cashmere/Light Cashmere interior trim

(PCM) Interior Plus Package, includes (AG1) driver 6-way power seat adjuster, (UK3) steering wheel-mounted audio controls and (UPF) Bluetooth phone interface

(PDD) Exterior Plus Package, includes (AP3) remote vehicle starter system, (A60) locking tailgate, (PPA) EZ-Lift tailgate, (UG1) universal home remote, (DL3) outside heated power-adjustable, power-folding and driver-side auto-dimming mirrors and (T96) fog lamps

(PDF) LTZ Plus Package, includes (CE1) Rainsense wipers, (UG1) Universal Home Remote, (A60) locking tailgate and (PPA) EZ-Lift tailgate

(L9H) Vortec 6.2L engine

(MYC) 6-speed automatic transmission

(R07) 18" Chrome-clad aluminum wheels

(S83) 20" Chrome-clad aluminum wheels

(UBS) XM Satellite Radio with XM NavTraffic

(UPF) Bluetooth for phone, personal cell phone connectivity to vehicle audio system

(UVC) Rearview camera system

Changes

(A95) bucket seats is an orderable option on 1LT

New standard LTZ features include - (G80) rear locking differential - (AP3) remote vehicle starter system - (Z82) trailering package - (UPF) Bluetooth for phone - (R07) 20" chrome-clad aluminum wheels (on 1500 models only)

(PDF) EZ-Lift tailgate Package content from 2008 has been moved to the Plus Packages

(PCY) Towing Package has been changed to (Z82) Trailering Package

(PCL) California Package (moved content to PEB Regional Value Package)

(JL4) StabiliTrak now standard on all 1LS, 1LT and 1LZ models as well as all Work Truck models with 5.3L engines

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Silverado 2500HD

Deletions

(25U) Dark Blue Metallic

(81U) Desert Brown Metallic

2LT Equipment Group

(V54) Luggage Rack

(**D) Select Cloth Interior Trim

New Features

(37U) Imperial Blue Metallic

(58U) Black Granite Metallic

(33I) Dark Cashmere/Light Cashmere interior trim

(PCM) Interior Plus Package, includes (AG1) driver 6-way power seat adjuster, (UK3) steering wheel-mounted audio controls and (UPF) Bluetooth for phone, also includes (CJ2) dual-zone climate control on Extended or Crew Cab models

(PDD) Exterior Plus Package, includes (AP3) remote vehicle starter system, (UG1) universal home remote, (A60) locking tailgate, (PPA) EZ-Lift tailgate, (DL3) outside heated power-adjustable, power-folding and driver-side auto-dimming mirrors and (T96) fog lamps

(PDF) LTZ Plus Package, includes (UG1) Universal Home Remote, (A60) locking tailgate and (PPA) EZ-Lift tailgate

(JL4) StabiliTrak stability control system, standard on C*20753 or C*20743 models

(UBS) XM NavTraffic

(UPF) Bluetooth for phone

(UVC) Rearview camera system

http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/domestic/...6998&type=0

Silverado 3500HD

Deletions

(25U) Dark Blue Metallic

(81U) Desert Brown Metallic

2LT Equipment Group

(V54) Luggage Rack

(**D) Select Cloth Interior Trim

New Features

(37U) Imperial Blue Metallic

(58U) Black Granite Metallic

(33I) Dark Cashmere/Light Cashmere interior trim

(PCM) Interior Plus Package, includes (AG1) driver 6-way power seat adjuster, (UK3) steering wheel-mounted audio controls and (UPF) Bluetooth for phone, also includes (CJ2) dual-zone climate control on Extended or Crew Cab models

(PDD) Exterior Plus Package, includes (AP3) remote vehicle starter system, (A60) locking tailgate, (PPA) EZ-Lift tailgate, (UG1) Universal Home Remote, (DL3) outside heated power-adjustable, power-folding and driver-side auto-dimming mirrors and (T96) fog lamps

(PDF) LTZ Plus Package, includes (UG1) Universal Home Remote, (A60) locking tailgate and (PPA) EZ-Lift tailgate

(UBS) XM NavTraffic

(UPF) Bluetooth for phone

(UVC) Rearview camera system

http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/domestic/...6999&type=0

Suburban

Deletions

3LT Equipment Group

(DF5) inside rearview auto-dimming mirror with 8-point compass and outside temperature display (compass and temperature display move to Driver Information Center)

(AW2) third row 50/50 split-bench, 2-passenger seat

(VPA) Chrome Appearance Package

(RCP) 20" x 8.5" (50.8 cm x 21.6 cm) painted aluminum wheels

(N93) 17" x 7.5" (43.2 cm x 19.1 cm) aluminum, 5-spoke wheels with radial grooves

(GT5) 4.10 ratio rear axle

(M30) 4-speed automatic transmission

(M70) 4-speed automatic, super-duty transmission

(31*) Light Cashmere/Ebony interior trim

(**D) Custom Cloth

(223) Morocco Brown/Ebony interior trim on Z71 models

(843) Light Titanium/Ebony interior trim on Z71 models

New Features

(80U) Red Jewel Tintcoat (LTZ models only)

(UPF) Bluetooth phone interface

(UBS) Real Time XM traffic download for all navigation radios

Navigation destination download for all navigation radios

(PCK) Luxury Package (replaces 3LT and is available on 2LT models only) includes (DD8) inside rearview auto-dimming mirror, (AN3) front full-feature bucket seats with leather-appointed seating, (KA1) heated front seats, (KA6) heated second row seats, (ARS) second row power seat release, (E61) rear power -operated liftgate and (DL3) outside heated power-adjustable, power-folding mirrors

(DNU) dual-screen rear seat entertainment system

(DD8) inside rearview auto-dimming mirror

(DRC) inside rearview mirror with rear camera display

(KB6) heated and cooled driver and front passenger seats (LTZ models only)

(UFT) side blind zone alert (LTZ models only)

(S80) 20" x 8.5" chrome clad wheels (Available on LTZ models)

(JL1) integrated trailer brake controller

(K5L) Heavy-Duty Trailering Package, includes (KNP) transmission oil cooler, (KC4) engine oil cooler, electric fan, and heavy-duty radiator

(GU4) 3.08 ratio rear axle (2WD models only)

(MYC) 6-speed automatic transmission (standard on all ½ ton models)

(333) Light Cashmere/Dark Cashmere interior trim now available on Z71 models

(833) Light Titanium/Dark Titanium interior trim now available on Z71 models

Changes

LTZ enhancements: new body side moldings, chrome tip on shift lever, door sill plates with "Chevrolet", center channel Bose sound system, heated and cooled seats with perforated leather, new rear fascia with integrated trailer hitch cover

Z71 Package: door handles and mirror caps will be body colored, grille insert will be bright chrome

Temperature and compass display move to Driver Information Center

(PDD) Convenience Package now contains (UVC) rearview camera system and (DRC) inside rearview mirror with rear camera display

(AS3) third row 50/50 split-bench, 3-passenger seat is now standard on all models

(V1K) luggage rack center rails are now packaged on LT and LTZ models

New cloth seat fabric on LS and 1LT models

http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/domestic/...6897&type=0

Tahoe

Deletions

3LT Equipment Group

(DF5) inside rearview auto-dimming mirror with 8-point compass and outside temperature display (compass and temperature display move to Driver Information Center)

(AW2) third row 50/50 split-bench, 2-passenger seat

(VPA) Chrome Appearance Package

(ZRS) P265/70R17 spare tire

(RCP) 20" x 8.5" (50.8 cm x 21.6 cm) painted aluminum wheels

(N93) 17" x 7.5" (43.2 cm x 19.1 cm) aluminum, 5-spoke wheels with radial grooves

(GT5) 4.10 ratio rear axle

(31*) Light Cashmere/Ebony interior trim

(**D) Custom Cloth

(223) Morocco Brown/Ebony interior trim on Z71 models

(843) Light Titanium/Ebony interior trim on Z71 models

New Features

(80U) Red Jewel Tintcoat (LTZ models only)

(UPF) Bluetooth phone interface

(UBS) Real Time XM traffic download for all navigation radios

Navigation destination download for all navigation radios

(PCK) Luxury Package (replaces 3LT and is available on 2LT models only) includes (DD8) inside rearview auto-dimming mirror, (AN3) front full-feature bucket seats with leather-appointed seating, (KA1) heated front seats, (KA6) heated second row seats, (ARS) second row power seat release, (E61) rear power -operated liftgate and (DL3) outside heated power-adjustable, power-folding mirrors

(DD8) inside rearview auto-dimming mirror

(DRC) inside rearview mirror with rear camera display

(KB6) heated and cooled driver and front passenger seats (LTZ models only)

(UFT) side blind zone alert (LTZ models only)

(ZVL) spare P265/60R17 tire

(S80) 20" x 8.5" chrome clad wheels (Available on LTZ models)

(JL1) integrated trailer brake controller

(L9H) 6.2L V8 engine

(K5L) Heavy-Duty Trailering Package, includes (KNP) transmission oil cooler, (KC4) engine oil cooler, electric fan, and heavy-duty radiator

(GU4) 3.08 ratio rear axle (2WD models only)

(333) Light Cashmere/Dark Cashmere interior trim now available on Z71 models

(833) Light Titanium/Dark Titanium interior trim now available on Z71 models

Changes

LTZ enhancements: new body side moldings, chrome tip on shift lever, door sill plates with "Chevrolet", center channel Bose sound system, heated and cooled seats with perforated leather, new rear fascia with integrated trailer hitch cover

Z71 Package: door handles and mirror caps will be body colored, grille insert will be bright chrome

Temperature and compass display move to Driver Information Center

(PDD) Convenience Package now contains (UVC) rearview camera system and (DRC) inside rearview mirror with rear camera display

(V1K) luggage rack center rails are now packaged on LT and LTZ models

New cloth seat fabric on LS and 1LT models

http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/domestic/...6899&type=0

Tahoe Hybrid

Deletions

(313) Light Cashmere/Ebony interior trim

New Features

(46U) Blue Granite Metallic

(333) Light Cashmere/Dark Cashmere interior trim

UPF) Bluetooth for phone, personal cell phone connectivity to vehicle audio system

(UBS) XM Real Time Traffic download for all navigation radios

Navigation destination download for all navigation radios

(JF4) power-adjustable pedals

Changes

Temperature and compass display move to Driver Information Center

http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/domestic/...6901&type=0

Trailblazer

Deletions

Exterior color (67U) Silverstone Metallic

Exterior color (81U) Desert Brown Metallic

Exterior color (32U) Moondust Metallic

(B3N) Floor mat delete

(DF5) Mirror, inside rearview

(DR1) Mirrors, exterior

(DK2) Mirrors, exterior

(ZM5) Skid Plate Package

(PDL) Off-Road Package

(LH6) Engine, Vortec 5.3L V8 SFI with Active Fuel Management

(QTE) Tires, P245/65R17 on-/off-road, blackwall

New Features

Exterior color (17U) Silver Ice Metallic

Exterior color (92U) Silver Moss Metallic

Exterior color (97U) Sand Beige Metallic

New Retail Equipment Groups 1LT, 2LT and 3LT

Bluetooth for phone , personal cell phone connectivity to vehicle audio system and HMI (Human Machine Interface)

Changes

(V76) Recovery hooks standard on 1LT, 2LT and 3LT CT15506 models.

http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/domestic/...6687&type=0

Edited April 13, 2008 by caddycruiser

[loki]

Av is 6speed only? cool

[ocnblu]

The Colorado changes are cool. I wonder if the 5.3L will really be available in '09... they said it was coming for '08, if I remember correctly. Glad to see 16" and 17" RPO rims, and the chrome and body-color trim improves things, too.

[caddycruiser]

Av is 6speed only? cool

Yes, actually every single full-size SUV with the 5.3L, 6.0L, or 6.2L get it standard. The 4.8L and 4.3L continue on with the same 4L60E as is, as do a lot of trucks in general, with the 6-speed available on crew cabs.

The Colorado changes are cool. I wonder if the 5.3L will really be available in '09... they said it was coming for '08, if I remember correctly. Glad to see 16" and 17" RPO rims, and the chrome and body-color trim improves things, too.

Yes, the Colorado/Canyon were supposed to get the 5.3L for '08 and then they just said "no, next year" so it really should be here this time around, right from the get go.

Edited April 12, 2008 by caddycruiser

[K.C.]

Changes look good to me. Nice to see the 6 speeds getting implementation finally into the half tonners.

[gm4life]

So the 6spd. auto will be in the Silvy with the 5.3 or 6.0L is so that is f*cking amazing news. Toyota GM is coming... (After your ugly Tundra) I wonder what fuel econo will be?

[gm4life]

The Tahoe and Silvy get the 6.2L Vortec V8 class leading HP now maybe? Tundra your toast and the Silverado will be riding your ass. I am $h!ting my pants today Lucerne 3900, six speed auto's in trucks and now I find the 6.2 on the option list. GM is finally figuring it out.

Edited April 13, 2008 by gm4life

[biff]

Anyone have a guess on horsepower in the 6.2? The Tahoe has 380 and the Denali has 403. Will the new flex fuel be any different?

[thegriffon]

Only hp given is the same a the Escalade and Denali, but final numbers for the other versions may change.

[gm4life]

6.2L Vortec Motor Powerband

Looks like 403hp.

Edited April 13, 2008 by gm4life

[GrahamHill]

Let the 2009 advertising begin! lol

[caddycruiser]

The Tahoe and Silvy get the 6.2L Vortec V8 class leading HP now maybe? Tundra your toast and the Silverado will be riding your ass. I am $h!ting my pants today Lucerne 3900, six speed auto's in trucks and now I find the 6.2 on the option list. GM is finally figuring it out.

No...not finally figuring it out. This has been the plan ALL along, the issue was just getting the components up to the proper capacity so they could effectively replace the HUGE number of 4-speed, etc. equipped units. It just took time to get things rolled out, and as you can see with many of the trucks STILL with the 4-speed as well as some lower Malibu trims, etc. the ramp-up still isn't complete.

Then again, there's the whole debate of why such ramp-ups weren't history long ago and these parts already here, but it is what it is.

As for the 6.2L/6-speed spreading, that's a great thing, but the real question will be the volume 5.3L/6-speed combo. It's down on power compared to some others, but also has been thought to be strangled quite a bit by the 4L60E for years, so it'll be interesting to see how it works with the 6-speed and higher rear gears in these heavy utes and trucks now. Like it or not, the Toyota 5.7L/6-speed combos is one of the sweetest out there in terms of overall polish (feel, sound, gear changes, etc.), power, AND fuel mileage...the latter of which has always perturbed me a bit with some misleading competitor advertisements and such. Maybe paper ratings it isn't as high, but real world is where it really shows.

A good example, in driveability and such, has been Edmunds (yes, Edmunds) long-term tests of both a Silverado 1500 6.0L and a Tundra Crew 5.7L. They fully admit the GM interior has a more friendly layout and attractive materials, but their Silverado's clunky and harsh transmission combined with an engine that has grunt but just doesn't fully show it cannot compare to the always silky, strong, beast of a 5.7L/6-speed that's perfectly matched in the Toyo, and good enough to make many of the editors able to ignore some of it's interior and other touches that aren't as great.

We'll see. If anything, I'm hoping the 5.3L can really come more effectively alive backed up to the 6-speed--and hopefully be more efficient and smoother in the process.

Edited April 14, 2008 by caddycruiser

[gm4life]

I thought the 5.3L 4L60E was a gem and great on gas. This will really help out these trucks. I wish they would have done the six speed auto on 5.3's in the Extended Cab and Regular as well. Along with a 6.2L in the extended or will that become the SS?

[biff]

Like it or not, the Toyota 5.7L/6-speed combos is one of the sweetest out there in terms of overall polish (feel, sound, gear changes, etc.), power, AND fuel mileage...

Have they really had good mileage? One if my friends was going to buy one but took it back after a few days because the mileage was terrible. Another person I know with a Tunrda likes it...except for the mileage.

It will be interesting to see how the 6.2 gets rated and with the different gear ratios.

[daves87rs]

Lots of new safety stuff on the HHR .....that's a good thing...

[RBB]

Colorado

Deletions

LS models

(YC1) LS decor

2WT Chassis Cab equipment group

2LT Regular Cab equipment group

(UC6) AM/FM stereo with 6-disc CD changer

(AM6) 60/40 split bench seat in LS cloth only

4-spoke Deluxe steering wheel (urethane)

(B84) bodyside moldings on Regular and Extended Cab models

Small wheel flares

Traction control

(20U) Pace Blue exterior color

(37U) Imperial Blue Metallic exterior color

(92D) Medium Pewter cloth

Why is Traction Control a deletion? Seems odd to delete a safety feature, especially one potentially so useful on a pickup.

-RBB

[caddycruiser]

Have they really had good mileage? One if my friends was going to buy one but took it back after a few days because the mileage was terrible. Another person I know with a Tunrda likes it...except for the mileage.

It will be interesting to see how the 6.2 gets rated and with the different gear ratios.

Nothing is great when you're talking about a full-size V8 truck, but real world driving of actual buyers has shown mileage results the same as and often better than supposedly "most efficient" competitors like the GM's--the newest models of which, Active Fuel Management and all, have generally been getting worse mileage all around than the GMT-800's averaged. Goes to show all that's printed and said isn't necessarily reality.

Read some owner reports and also even magazine reviews, and these mileage figures continue to be backed up.

[IfICouldWouldYou?]

Why is Traction Control a deletion? Seems odd to delete a safety feature, especially one potentially so useful on a pickup.

-RBB

If you read down further, traction control is being incorporated with the now standard Stabilitrak. ABS/traction control and Stabilitrak are really just 3 facets of the same thing.

[Drew Dowdell]

Nothing is great when you're talking about a full-size V8 truck, but real world driving of actual buyers has shown mileage results the same as and often better than supposedly "most efficient" competitors like the GM's--the newest models of which, Active Fuel Management and all, have generally been getting worse mileage all around than the GMT-800's averaged. Goes to show all that's printed and said isn't necessarily reality.

Read some owner reports and also even magazine reviews, and these mileage figures continue to be backed up.

Aren't the 900s a good bit heavier than the 800's?

[biff]

Read some owner reports and also even magazine reviews, and these mileage figures continue to be backed up.

I've noticed the magazine ratings on the Tunrda are always pretty good, but folks I know that have them don't share the same opinion. OTOH, I know 3 guys with GMT900's 2 say their mileage is better than the GMT800's.

The 900's aren't much heavier than the 800's but the 'yota is heavier than both. If they're really getting 18mpg consistently, they're doing pretty good.

[gm4life]

Well the invasion of the 6spd. auto's should help Chevy. By the books they have class leading economy.

[Derek77]

I guess it is still possible that the Tahoe will get the same weight saving features as the hybrid Tahoe? (thinner seats, aluminum hood and liftgate, maybe optional spare tire)

[ToniCipriani]

So the HHR doesn't get the CVVT variant of the 2.2L Ecotec. I guess that's the difference between the LE8 and LAP.

[Drew Dowdell]

Then again, there's the whole debate of why such ramp-ups weren't history long ago and these parts already here, but it is what it is.

The Camry had a 4-speed standard as recently as '04, the Accord as recently as '02<and the 5-speed that followed has been riddled with problems>, the Altima as recently as '06, the Mazda 6 as recently as '05, the Jetta in '04, the Galant still has a 4-speed standard as do the Subaru Legacy and Hyundai Sonata. Now I know other domestics don't count, but the Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan started with a 5 speed in '06, 500/Montego started with a 6-speed in '05, the Sebring/Avenger/300/Charger/Magnum all still have a 4-speed standard.

So.. some perspective please in terms of the rolling out of greater than 4 speed transmissions. From what I can find, it looks like VW was the first to the midsize segment with a 5-speed automatic in the Passat back in 1998. So please don't make it sound like "OMG! GM IS Teh SUXORS! GM shoulda HAD 5-speeds in '84!!!!@121!"

[gm4life]

All I know is I road in a 2008 Suburban 1LT for eight hours today and loved the seats, xm radio and the ride. Plus it had great punch.

[daves87rs]

The Camry had a 4-speed standard as recently as '04, the Accord as recently as '02<and the 5-speed that followed has been riddled with problems>, the Altima as recently as '06, the Mazda 6 as recently as '05, the Jetta in '04, the Galant still has a 4-speed standard as do the Subaru Legacy and Hyundai Sonata. Now I know other domestics don't count, but the Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan started with a 5 speed in '06, 500/Montego started with a 6-speed in '05, the Sebring/Avenger/300/Charger/Magnum all still have a 4-speed standard.

So.. some perspective please in terms of the rolling out of greater than 4 speed transmissions. From what I can find, it looks like VW was the first to the midsize segment with a 5-speed automatic in the Passat back in 1998. So please don't make it sound like "OMG! GM IS Teh SUXORS! GM shoulda HAD 5-speeds in '84!!!!@121!"

[HarleyEarl]

I dislike the way the rear fenderwells of GM pickups are painted the color of the truck. Especially in lighter colors. The front fenderwells are blacked out. It makes the truck look slightly inexpensive. GM, could you fix this for 2009? Thanks.

Edited April 19, 2008 by HarleyEarl

[GMTruckGuy74]

I dislike the way the rear fenderwells of GM pickups are painted the color of the truck. Especially in lighter colors. The front fenderwells are blacked out. It makes the truck look slightly inexpensive. GM, could you fix this for 2009? Thanks.

I've attached a picture I took previously of a white Sierra at my local dealership. While you are 100% correct that the front wheelwell is blacked out and the rear wheelwell is body color, IMO I don't think it's as horrible as you're making it out to be. I could live with that just fine if I owned one; maybe the aftermarket has addressed this issue?

[joe8737]

You forgot the Express Vans. The G4500 will be new for 09. See link. Will the GVW increase for the C3500? Anyone know?

http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayServlet...amp;docid=43714

[01LightningGal]

The Camry had a 4-speed standard as recently as '04, the Accord as recently as '02<and the 5-speed that followed has been riddled with problems>, the Altima as recently as '06, the Mazda 6 as recently as '05, the Jetta in '04, the Galant still has a 4-speed standard as do the Subaru Legacy and Hyundai Sonata. Now I know other domestics don't count, but the Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan started with a 5 speed in '06, 500/Montego started with a 6-speed in '05, the Sebring/Avenger/300/Charger/Magnum all still have a 4-speed standard.

So.. some perspective please in terms of the rolling out of greater than 4 speed transmissions. From what I can find, it looks like VW was the first to the midsize segment with a 5-speed automatic in the Passat back in 1998. So please don't make it sound like "OMG! GM IS Teh SUXORS! GM shoulda HAD 5-speeds in '84!!!!@121!"

Actually, the Fusion and Milan only have the 5-speed auto with the 4cyl. The V6 versions have always had the 6-speed auto only.

Just a slight correction.

[HarleyEarl]

I've attached a picture I took previously of a white Sierra at my local dealership. While you are 100% correct that the front wheelwell is blacked out and the rear wheelwell is body color, IMO I don't think it's as horrible as you're making it out to be. I could live with that just fine if I owned one; maybe the aftermarket has addressed this issue?

It's not 'horrible'....just distracting for the eye. These are otherwise very good looking trucks...I'd just get it in black.

I think it must be the very large wheel openings, it's more visible.

[Oracle of Delphi]

I dislike the way the rear fenderwells of GM pickups are painted the color of the truck. Especially in lighter colors. The front fenderwells are blacked out. It makes the truck look slightly inexpensive. GM, could you fix this for 2009? Thanks.

I am 100% with you on that, only I would use the word cheap rather than inexpensive.

[ocnblu]

I had the same concern upon first seeing the 900 pickups, and even bought cans of rubberized undercoating to apply to my truck when I first bought it. I never put it on. A plastic wheelhouse liner could trap dirt, and therefore moisture, in the area, causing early corrosion problems. Simply spraying flat black paint in the area could work, but it may chip from stones, causing an even worse appearance over time. A full coat of bodycolor paint back there seems fine to me, I know the area's protected, yet free to circulate air for a drying effect.

[caddycruiser]

I guess it is still possible that the Tahoe will get the same weight saving features as the hybrid Tahoe? (thinner seats, aluminum hood and liftgate, maybe optional spare tire)

I've ALWAYS thought that should happen...if all these changes help the fuel economy of the Hybrid further, imagine the effect on a regular all gas model, albeit small...but no, not happening. All of what has been, stays as far as its looks and weight.

[bcs296]

The Camry had a 4-speed standard as recently as '04, the Accord as recently as '02<and the 5-speed that followed has been riddled with problems>, the Altima as recently as '06, the Mazda 6 as recently as '05, the Jetta in '04, the Galant still has a 4-speed standard as do the Subaru Legacy and Hyundai Sonata. Now I know other domestics don't count, but the Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan started with a 5 speed in '06, 500/Montego started with a 6-speed in '05, the Sebring/Avenger/300/Charger/Magnum all still have a 4-speed standard.

So.. some perspective please in terms of the rolling out of greater than 4 speed transmissions. From what I can find, it looks like VW was the first to the midsize segment with a 5-speed automatic in the Passat back in 1998. So please don't make it sound like "OMG! GM IS Teh SUXORS! GM shoulda HAD 5-speeds in '84!!!!@121!"

Um, we are talking about GM's 2009 models. Camry and Jetta, '04? 5 years ago. Accord, '02? 7 years ago. Even the Mazda 6 at '05 - 4 years ago.

4, 5, 6, 7 years ago... That's a long time ago and a hell of a lot of cars sold during those years.

Spin it however you want, GM has been lagging badly in this area.

*waiting patiently for the Silverado 6.2/6speed vs Tundra 5.7/6 speed comparisons*

Edited April 28, 2008 by bcs296

[gm4life]

Thats what I am waiting for... Dying actually for... *waiting patiently for the Silverado 6.2/6speed vs Tundra 5.7/6 speed comparisons*

On the other hand the six speeds are coming in cars and truck so bring them on.

[Satty]

What ever happened to the Colorado getting the V8. Have they hit lots yet? Is it going to be available RWD, or is it going to be 4wd only?

[gm4life]

Sounds like it is Satty.

[gm4life]

Sounds like it is Satty.

[ocnblu]

I think the V8 is available with the Extreme package extended and crew, that's the only 2WD you can order with the 5.3, if I am not mistaken.

Odd thing about the two GMT355s I've seen so far on the lots: A Canyon was identified on the sticker as a WT, with manual windows, etc., black handles&mirrors/chrome bumpers and a rubber floor... but it had "SLE" nameplate on the tailgate... and a Colorado, again marked as "WT", with chrome handles and body color bumpers, grille and mirror caps. I think somebody screwed up on the line with both of those trucks... weird.

[gm4life]

You can get a six speed automatic in any LT or up trim level with any cab configuration. And any V8 engine. Built a few tonight... YES! The 6.2 is only optional on the 2WD LT and above crewcabs.

[79VetteZ06]

You can get a six speed automatic in any LT or up trim level with any cab configuration. And any V8 engine. Built a few tonight... YES! The 6.2 is only optional on the 2WD LT and above crewcabs.

4x4 LTZ Crew Cabs get it too provided you choose 20" wheels.

[gm4life]

Your right. It is only optional on 20 inch wheels LTZ's two wheel drive or four wheel drive.