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Toyota @ NAIAS '08 Venza Crossover

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bowtie_dude Newbie

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I, um, actually kind of like it. This disturbs me. :duck:

The interior is really nice, actually. Though the shifter placement and design surrounding it is a bit odd. Throws off the symmetry. And I like symmetry in my interior design.

siegen Newbie

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The front instantly reminded me of the Ford Edge.

If it weren't for the painfully ugly headlights and grille, I kind of like it. It's like a Toyota Forester. Seems like a better option than an SUV, and I'm glad people are giving Wagons some more attention, regardless of make.

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Anyone think this will be marketed as the Camry-Venza like the Solara was? It would allow Toyota to continue combining sales under the Camry name.

Robert Hall Veteran

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Anyone think this will be marketed as the Camry-Venza like the Solara was? It would allow Toyota to continue combining sales under the Camry name.

I bet they will..since it's like a tall wagon version of the Camry.

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Anyone think this will be marketed as the Camry-Venza like the Solara was? It would allow Toyota to continue combining sales under the Camry name.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did market it as another Camry.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Where the **** do their designers get their ideas to design? I think I could be high and drunk and think of a better rear quarter and facial treatment for a vehicle. And that center stack is atrocious.

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to bad they don't want to use GM's truck 4cyl. 2.7 or a 2.9.... hm. you know, trade for the matrix clone deal. lol

it looks to much like the camry to be called something else. but just a little time i looked at it. eh. kinda curious how it'll sell well, since ...all toyota customers that want utility will just buy a rav-4 or highlander or 4-runner... since T can't do wrong, excpet overlap and build hideous vehicles. hahaha

regfootball Community Regular

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they market it like an Edge or Murano competitor, but its much more wagony and longer (look at the rear overhang).

thing is, it will sell, its got a "T" on the grille, and its base engine is a 4, which will give this typically undersized frame chassis good mpg, and allow low prices for cheap dumping leases.

this will probably steal more 'family' sales than the edge or the murano. it allows the highlander to continue to be the dud it is, also.

VenSeattle Newbie

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it looks to much like the camry to be called something else. but just a little time i looked at it. eh. kinda curious how it'll sell well, since ...all toyota customers that want utility will just buy a rav-4 or highlander or 4-runner... since T can't do wrong, excpet overlap and build hideous vehicles. hahaha

I really see this stealing sales from the Camry sedan itself, or possibly Prius if there's a hybrid version (for those who need more room.)

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Normally I don't like Toyota styling or design, but I actually don't mind this Venza. It's more stylish than the vanilla Toyotas we typically get in the US, and some of the details are quite clever.

A large-displacement four-cylinder has potential in the future, a great idea especially in these types of crossover vehicles, provided NVH can be kept down. A small turbocharged four-cylinder (aka Ecoboost) has a similar use, but it'll likely cost more.

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After looking at it more I don't like it at all. The greenhouse and side glass look good and have potential but the rest is ruined by Toyota's need to design blobs. Everything looks bulbous and the thing looks like it's about to burst at the seams...like it just ate a Corolla.

Cory Wolfe

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It's the lovechild of a Camry and a Ford Edge... with a the town whore ES350 being whored on the side. And surprising, it doesn't look that bad, save for the front. From the A-pillar back its decent. I dislike the interior though. Whoever came up with that center stack idea has no idea how to design an interior outside of 90's high-school study hall doodlings.

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Aw haaaiilll nah... what is wrong with me... I actually like this new Camry Matrix.:huh:

A Donnie Iris song applies here.....

"Give him shock treatment, give him one more treatment"

i think the design would come off better had they not resorted to the nasty fender flares on the side. the greenhouse itself is not atrocious. the flanks are flabby.

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enzl Newbie

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Camry Wagon meets IS300 Sportcross.

The car may not be great, but I'm for anything that brings back the Stationwagon...perhaps someone should call Mr. Lutz about rethinking the G8 SW?

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Just a somewhat random comment: It seems crossovers are starting to look more like station wagons now. Perhaps this is to improve MPG, I'm not sure. Regardless, I think it would be smarter for manufacturers to make crossovers look like SUVs. I think the sales charts tell the story, as it seems the more SUV-like the looks, the better the vehicle sells. This is basically a tall wagon instead of a short SUV.

VenSeattle Newbie

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Change the weird front lights, and you got a Murano competitor. Pretty suprised Toyota designed a decent looking vehicle.

How do the current headlights prevent it from being a Murano competitor? :huh:

I'm just playing. I know what you mean. :lol:

sciguy_0504 Newbie

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I'm not a fan of the grille but, overall, the styling is nice and upscale, not boring and somewhat stylish. I really like the rear. The interior looks nice but the center console is a bit weird...takes some getting used to, I guess.

siegen Newbie

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I can't believe any of your guys can see past that grille. I try to view the rest of the car but my eyes keep being drawn in by the horrendous grille.

VenSeattle Newbie

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I can't believe any of your guys can see past that grille. I try to view the rest of the car but my eyes keep being drawn in by the horrendous grille.

At least the styling Moves your attention Forward :lol:

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I can't believe any of your guys can see past that grille. I try to view the rest of the car but my eyes keep being drawn in by the horrendous grille.

I'm having the same problem.

The O.C. Newbie

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I like it...! (Wierd grille though....)

And....what's with that center console? Ewwwww......

Overall could be a good entry in the marketplace I guess......seems like a cheapy competitor to the Infiniti EX35....?

Robert Hall Veteran

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It's the lovechild of a Camry and a Ford Edge... with a the town whore ES350 being whored on the side. And surprising, it doesn't look that bad, save for the front. From the A-pillar back its decent. I dislike the interior though. Whoever came up with that center stack idea has no idea how to design an interior outside of 90's high-school study hall doodlings.

Funny you mention high school doodlings...last time I went back to Ohio to visit my mom, I found a stash of my 'future car' sketches from 20+ years ago that I did in jr. high and high school...my future cars then all kind of looked like GM dustbuster minivans or Priuses (I really was into drawing monospaces). I guess I was inspired by the Chevy concept car at Epcot Center I saw in '82.

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If produced, I wonder how much this will cannabalize sienna fleet numbers?

Not much, because allot of the domestic competition have or are in the process of axeing their minivan programs. Minivan buyers will turn to Toyota and whoever is left producing minivans.

sciguy_0504 Newbie

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As stated in the other thread for this vehicle... this Lexus RX wreaks of GM of yore. Offers nothing new and is a quick answer to a product question no one asked.

What? First, it's a Toyota Venza. Second, both mid-level (this vehicle) and luxury (Lexus RX) crossovers are products many customers have asked for and have received. The RX is the best selling vehicle in the Lexus lineup. Third, I don't think many cars offer anything new nowadays.

The only Edge similarity I see is the rear window. Otherwise, the Venza looks sportier and more luxurious, IMO.

Cory Wolfe

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The only Edge similarity I see is the rear window. Otherwise, the Venza looks sportier and more luxurious, IMO.

Take a look at the grill and headlight shape... If you can't see it, you may have problems. :P

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