Saturn Sky Flying High, Pontiac Solstice Flagging?

[Oracle of Delphi]

General Motors’ Pontiac Solstice and Saturn’s Sky both posted massive numbers out of the sales gates, but at least one of the two sports cars’ fortunes are flagging.

According to the New York Times, sales of the curvaceous Solstice have dropped 19 percent versus last year through the end of July, and GM suddenly has a glut of Pontiac-branded roadsters on its hands—nearly five months of inventory. Conversely, its under-the-skin twin, the Saturn Sky, continues to sell well, with a one-month inventory and an actual wait time for delivery.

So what’s going on here? Author Nick Bunkley seems to feel it’s a product of Saturn’s rising star in GM’s portfolio, and Pontiac’s status as a “damaged” brand. He also points out that the General is investing more into Saturn’s marketing efforts than Pontiac.

Link: http://news.windingroad.com/marketingadver...stice-flagging/

[BigPontiac]

Further, Bunkley notes that sales at Saturn are up 15 percent this year, but this strikes us as a bit misleading, as it fails to note that GM continues to expand the brand exponentially with new and/or revitalized models like the Outlook and Vue. The same is true for GMC. Pontiac, meanwhile, is waiting on critical new models like the G8.

Interesting how there is no mention of the "adjusted market value" the Pontiac dealers were adding to the price of a Solstice at launch.

[avant1963]

A huge reason is that Pontiac dealers are only ordering (or GM is only shipping??) loaded Solstices with almost every option. I looked into one and every Solstice in the 50 mile radius was over $30,000. NO $h! you're not selling them. Where did the $21,000 - 26,000 car go?

Not only that, but dealers are packing on BS dealer-installed options like splash guards to jack the price even more. Plus, my local dealer has two GXPs sitting on the lot, and one's an auto!? - And the other Solstices were auto too. Where's the autocross Solstices?

It's the product mix, stupid.

[enzl]

Or, there's simply a limited market for 2 seaters with no trunk space and the smart money is going to a dealer with better service, better buying experience, little ADM and, possibly, a little better image?

(I also happen to think the Sky is better looking & I get the sense that Pontiac is the stepchild of the GMC-Buick-Ponitac stores...)

[Camino LS6]

This is deceptive though, as Solstice has actually sold more units than Sky YTD.

I love both of them and have met plenty of people who have a hard time deciding which one they want.

What the Solstice needs is the coupe variant, like yesterday. Sky should remain roadster only.

[Z-06]

This is deceptive though, as Solstice has actually sold more units than Sky YTD.

I love both of them and have met plenty of people who have a hard time deciding which one they want.

What the Solstice needs is the coupe variant, like yesterday. Sky should remain roadster only.

Well Said! Pontiac needs a Solstii coupe ASAP and that should be only Pontiac exclusive. People do have hard time deciding which one to choose. I think Pontiac needs fresh air as soon as possible.

[Flybrian]

The lack of a true-to-concept coupe as well as the ridiculous 'value adjustments' hurt early Solstice sales. People act as if its all about the Pontiac image and while that plays a role in it, its not the sole cause or even one of the main ones for somewhat slow initial sales.

[regfootball]

i think there is some poor product planning still going on at gm. where is the coupe, why is it not here? how come the problems (cheap interior, no trunk) haven't been fixed? where is the ad campaign? where is the rest of the all new pontiac lineup to support it?

plain and simple, GM moves way to fuking slow and trips over itself. one step forward, two steps back.

saturn got an all new lineup right away. why didn't pontiac? where is the pontiac torana? where is the new GTO? g8 should have been here 6 months ago? why no all new g6?

at some point it makes you wonder if many folks including the untouchables shouldn't be fired. maybe shift decision making out of michigan too

they have money for buyouts, but they dont have money to make new products. PATHETIC.

Edited August 25, 2007 by regfootball

[Oracle of Delphi]

I admit I like the Sky better than the Solstice, for me though, that's kind of like picking which child is your favorite (yes I am a breeder). :AH-HA_wink: If I was ever to buy one however, it would be the Solstice, because my BPG dealer (Anchor Buick, Pontiac, GMC Elkton-MD) is heads and shoulders above the Winner Group which runs Saturn of Newark-DE, Saturn of West Chester-PA, and Saturn of Salisbury-MD. The dealership experience is the deciding factor in many folk's decision on what vehicle they buy, but from what I see from my point of view, GM, doesn't get that.

Edited August 25, 2007 by Pontiac Custom-S

[Delta Force79]

IMO it comes down to styling...the Sky looks a lot nicer and I'm not even a Saturn fan.

[Camino LS6]

If I were to buy one, it would also be a Solstice.

Not for the look or the dealership, but for the SCCA prep package!

[CaddyXLR-V]

The Sky looks a lot better. I never warmed up to the ugly Solstice grill. I was driving behind a Sky at night, and I couldn't tell what it was. The rear tail lights made me think it was a much more expensive car. Maybe Holden should be doing the design work for all of Pontiacs cars. They seem to be the only ones I like. (Or GM NA could keep doing them and we can get cars like the G6 GXP) Soon, the best looking car on Pontiacs lot will be the G8.

[daves87rs]

A huge reason is that Pontiac dealers are only ordering (or GM is only shipping??) loaded Solstices with almost every option. I looked into one and every Solstice in the 50 mile radius was over $30,000. NO $h! you're not selling them. Where did the $21,000 - 26,000 car go?

Not only that, but dealers are packing on BS dealer-installed options like splash guards to jack the price even more. Plus, my local dealer has two GXPs sitting on the lot, and one's an auto!? - And the other Solstices were auto too. Where's the autocross Solstices?

It's the product mix, stupid.

Agreed. Same issue here...

[CMG]

IMO it comes down to styling...the Sky looks a lot nicer and I'm not even a Saturn fan.

Couldn't agree more.

The Sky looks great, the Solstice has a face.... well.... it's got "love it or hate it" styling.

There, I said it without saying the Solstice is ugly in comparison...

(Ooops!)

[Northstar]

How are Solstice sales flagging when it outsells the Sky every month? Sure, it is probably only because it is available at more locations, but sales are still good and on pace with the Miata.

[PurdueGuy]

Anyone know the ratio of sales of Solstice VS Sky? Seems like originally they were planning production of 3:1 IIRC.

[GMTruckGuy74]

The original goal was to sell 20,000 Pontiac Solstices, 10,000 Saturn SKYs, and the remaining 10,000 worth of SKY production was going to be split however between the Deawoo G2X and the Opel GT. So when you look at sales figures (Sol vs SKY), the Solstice will always *appear* to sell more than the SKY. PCS may be able shed more light, if he's allowed, on what the actual Sol vs SKY mix really is. When I was at the plant tour in May, there seemed to be more SKY RLs on the assembly line than Solstices (but that is just by my observation, I didn't actually count the cars, and I'm more baised towards the SKY anyway).

I will say this, a good majority of the people I meet and talk to about the SKY vs the Solstice tend to like the chisled shape of the SKY over the jellybean look of the Solstice. When I took my SKY to a local car show in May, the local Pontiac dealer had one of their many Solstices on display, about 500 feet away from my car. I overheard many people compare the two, saying they liked the SKY better (and most didn't know I was the owner of the SKY, because I wasn't sitting in or near my car most of the time).

One funny thing to realize is that when you drive by a Pontiac dealership, you'll see 2 or more Solstices on the lot. Try doing that with many of the Saturn dealerships around. Saturn was originally not allowing dealers to order SKYs for inventory (you had to have customer's info in order to place the order). I know my selling dealership only had SKYs on hand when the customer cancelled their order (didn't want to wait, changed to the RL model from their ordered base model, or went with another car).

But this is just really a pissing contest... we should be more concerned on how the Kappa twins are selling combined against their competition.

[jbartley]

i think people are missing the fact that the solstice has tougher competition now. the SKY is just gorgeous and more premium. if you want a bare-bones roadster the Miata makes a convincing argument as well.

[Wheels66]

A huge reason is that Pontiac dealers are only ordering (or GM is only shipping??) loaded Solstices with almost every option. I looked into one and every Solstice in the 50 mile radius was over $30,000. NO $h! you're not selling them. Where did the $21,000 - 26,000 car go?

Not only that, but dealers are packing on BS dealer-installed options like splash guards to jack the price even more. Plus, my local dealer has two GXPs sitting on the lot, and one's an auto!? - And the other Solstices were auto too. Where's the autocross Solstices?

It's the product mix, stupid.

This is the same thing I found when looking for our Solstice GXP. I live in Ohio and could not find a GXP that was not completely loaded. I did not want to spend $2500 - $3500 more for things I did not want or need. After searching for a while, we ended up finding our car in PA. Dealer was great, no added mark-up and no added fluff. My GXP has only 4 options, and that is enough for me. The sticker was 29,990.00. I agree with the quoted post, seems like the dealers have something hot now and have to get as much profit as possible. Oh well, at least we have our little monster now, could not be happier. This little car rocks.

[caddycruiser]

One funny thing to realize is that when you drive by a Pontiac dealership, you'll see 2 or more Solstices on the lot. Try doing that with many of the Saturn dealerships around. Saturn was originally not allowing dealers to order SKYs for inventory (you had to have customer's info in order to place the order). I know my selling dealership only had SKYs on hand when the customer cancelled their order (didn't want to wait, changed to the RL model from their ordered base model, or went with another car).

True, oddly enough. For a while there, I never saw either at any dealer--they'd get them, but they'd either be special orders or just sold away immediately. Then with time, I still have never seen a Sky on the lot either in PA or at home, but in the past few months now see Solstices sitting on dealer lots. Noticed it immediately when the GM dealer at home, who has like 1 Vette a year, if that, let alone Solstices, now had 2 sitting side by side out in front of the lot.

That's NOT to say the Solstice is now a slow seller--very far from it--but just that supply/demand has finally settled out more, while the Sky still seems to be an instant disappearer, likely a combination of looks and the whole "Saturn experience".

It's still odd though, given that the supply of each does seem somewhat equaled out, yet there's far less "just went to the dealer and bought Sky sitting there" than there is with the Solstice.

[caddycruiser]

Not only that, but dealers are packing on BS dealer-installed options like splash guards to jack the price even more. Plus, my local dealer has two GXPs sitting on the lot, and one's an auto!? - And the other Solstices were auto too. Where's the autocross Solstices?

You know, on the trans choices, they were manual only at first, which did limit (well, if you could call it that) the buyer base. Then when they added the auto, there as always was a HUGE influx of people who had either no desire for or just can't drive a stick, who got the auto. Dealers I've seen still seem to get a mix, but based on typical customer want alone, it's the Auto cars that are always in demand--Turbo cars especially, where people get the extra boost but can still just put it in Drive and go.

They HAVE definitely seemed to get more bloated in options and pricing, though. Of course, with time, some of that is just that GM is offering more choices in things, but at the same time, though you could easily find a mid 20's Solstice when they first came out, now 97% of them seem to be the $28-32k variety with every single option box checked. Again, a lot of it is demand (people buying an impulse car like this usually just want everything), so a dealer wouldn't just stock crank windowed, no A/C, stick cars just because...

Edited August 27, 2007 by caddycruiser

[cletus8269]

i like the way the designs split, the saturn seems aimed at the younger marked with refined body lines and a sharper image. the solstice seems geared to the older folks that like the curvy lines. the pontiac makes me think c2 vette lines, the sky more like a european sports car. i like the sky better, but previous posts nail it on the head, if a dealer wants to sell a car have one in the inventory with everything on it as a demo or something but dont have 5 loaded to the gills in different colors unless you want to take a hit cause the majority of people just wont pay 31000 for a roadster, 27K is plenty steep enough.

the sky seems like the one with the exclusivity. we got 5 or 6 solstices runnin around my town and i have only seen one sky in a year.

Edited August 27, 2007 by cletus8269

[buyacargetacheck]

Too bad GM wasted such a fine car on two brands that aren't going anywhere but down. Had they made 30,000 Chevrolet Stingrays instead not only would they command a high price and profit but these cars would actually be collectible in future. The Solstice, as good a car as it is, will be like the Fiero in 20 years time - an interesting low-priced hobby with little collectible interest. Even worse for the Sky.

[Northstar]

Too bad GM wasted such a fine car on two brands that aren't going anywhere but down. Had they made 30,000 Chevrolet Stingrays instead not only would they command a high price and profit but these cars would actually be collectible in future. The Solstice, as good a car as it is, will be like the Fiero in 20 years time - an interesting low-priced hobby with little collectible interest. Even worse for the Sky.

Could you please stop posting so much damn bull$h!? You must have a crystal f@#king ball. How the hell do you know what's going to happen in 20 years time? The Solstice commanded a high price, and Skys sell for sticker. GM is making plenty of profit off of them. You say the Chevy could actually be collectible but that the Solstice will end up like the Fiero, how the hell do you know?

Also, the Chevy Stingray is going to command a higher price? How? You want the 2.4L version to start at $30k or something and the SS to be $40k? Please inform me who is going to pay $40k for a Chevy roadster when the Vette is not that much more? Please, go have your head examined.

[smk4565]

I noticed looking at used ones, the Sky usually is $25,000+ used, while the Solstice is typically $22-23,000. I know the Sky is more new, but it seems that they don't lose value at all and are in high demand. If the Solstice had a Toyota badge on front it would double it's sales easily. Problem is, it's a Pontiac, and most people think of Pontiac as a cheap, plastic inside and body cladded outside rental car.

Pontiacs are low priced, mainly fleet cars, that makes them undesireable. Vibe has a base of about $16,000, G5, 15,000, G6 $18,000, Grand Prix and Torrent were around $22,000. Those are rather low considering the average new car sale price is $30,000 and most CamCord type cars are $22-26,000. Pontiac has become GM's lowest end brand really, almost like Plymouth was in the 90s.

[cletus8269]

i thought the reason pontiac and saturn got those vehicles was because it would help bolster their sales. by readin the production numbers... it looks like it did. as far as collectible cars are concerned, i doubt the sky or solstice were intended to fill that gap. maybe the redline and gxp will have a cult following like the sy/ty's and t-types in 20 years but whos to say. as of this moment the only cars i can honestly say GM churns out as collectibles would be pace car vettes and trucks like the intimidator SS's. you know, low production number cars. even those cars have a 20 yr or better wait ahead of them before people start really desiring them for what they are worth.

Edited August 27, 2007 by cletus8269

[BuddyP]

Dealers push potential GM buyers away more than the product. And this is a case of it. A car that a person doens't need, so if they can't be respected by the dealer/salesman, then it's no skin off thier back. They can just leave and not buy the car. GM itself needs a group of people that do nothing but keep an eye on the dealers and how they are operating.

Also it should be no suprise that sales are lower on Solstice/Sky than when released. Why is this a suprise?? Also, I like the Sky design inside and out, better than the Solstice.

[dimitri0917]

Another element to the SKY's success over the Solstice is the element of suprise. No one woulda expected the SKY from Saturn, the "crappy plastic brand". Pontiac is supposed to be the racer brand. They were EXPECTED to have a Kappa-like car. The SKY is just a different type of car for the "different type of car" company. That may have something to do with its sales and having more of a draw towards Saturn as a brand, ya know, being the halo and all.

Also compared to, say, the Z4, Porsche Boxster, SKY, or Miata the Solstice looks like a bulbous onion-shaped flame surfaced wannabe POS, in my opinion of course.

And the SKY looks like a mini-'vette

[Northstar]

I noticed looking at used ones, the Sky usually is $25,000+ used, while the Solstice is typically $22-23,000. I know the Sky is more new, but it seems that they don't lose value at all and are in high demand. If the Solstice had a Toyota badge on front it would double it's sales easily. Problem is, it's a Pontiac, and most people think of Pontiac as a cheap, plastic inside and body cladded outside rental car.

Pontiacs are low priced, mainly fleet cars, that makes them undesireable. Vibe has a base of about $16,000, G5, 15,000, G6 $18,000, Grand Prix and Torrent were around $22,000. Those are rather low considering the average new car sale price is $30,000 and most CamCord type cars are $22-26,000. Pontiac has become GM's lowest end brand really, almost like Plymouth was in the 90s.

The Sky is also more expensive base, and probably has more options most of the time. My dealer wanted $26k for a used 2.4L Solstice and had a new GXP for $27k sitting right next to it. Guess which one was gone soon after?

[Chevy Girl]

I think the Sky is so cute.

[PurdueGuy]

Too bad GM wasted such a fine car on two brands that aren't going anywhere but down. Had they made 30,000 Chevrolet Stingrays instead not only would they command a high price and profit but these cars would actually be collectible in future. The Solstice, as good a car as it is, will be like the Fiero in 20 years time - an interesting low-priced hobby with little collectible interest. Even worse for the Sky.

The Fiero has a cult following. It doesn't command high prices because it's not rare. A Chevy Kappa wouldn't be rare either, and wouldn't be of any higher value than the Solstice and/or Sky will be. In fact, since there would have been 30k of them, compared with 20k and 10k, they would be worth LESS.

[silverss/sc]

Interesting how there is no mention of the "adjusted market value" the Pontiac dealers were adding to the price of a Solstice at launch.

Was ? The Pontiac dealers here still have the nifty little market adj, on them . 2500 extra for base and 5K extra for GXP . Saturn sells for sticker .

Its also the time of year where sales of a car like this I would think typically begin to die off a bit . I know Im close to snow tire shopping ...its not that far off

Edited August 27, 2007 by silverss/sc

[Cory Wolfe]

Too bad GM wasted such a fine car on two brands that aren't going anywhere but down. Had they made 30,000 Chevrolet Stingrays instead not only would they command a high price and profit but these cars would actually be collectible in future. The Solstice, as good a car as it is, will be like the Fiero in 20 years time - an interesting low-priced hobby with little collectible interest. Even worse for the Sky.

Fieros are more collectible than you think. Pristine examples can easily go for $10-15k or more, which in most cases is more than what they cost new. MSRP in 1988 for the top of the line GT was $13,999, $10,999 for the Formula, and $8,999 for the base. Explain to me how this qualifies as "little collectible interest".

Could you please stop posting so much damn bull$h!? You must have a crystal f@#king ball. How the hell do you know what's going to happen in 20 years time? The Solstice commanded a high price, and Skys sell for sticker. GM is making plenty of profit off of them. You say the Chevy could actually be collectible but that the Solstice will end up like the Fiero, how the hell do you know?

Also, the Chevy Stingray is going to command a higher price? How? You want the 2.4L version to start at $30k or something and the SS to be $40k? Please inform me who is going to pay $40k for a Chevy roadster when the Vette is not that much more? Please, go have your head examined.

Thank you. I especially agree with the head examining.

[HUMVEE]

I am the happy owner of a 3 week old Sky Redline. I looked and drove a GXP and liked it but the Sky's styling inside and out is why I bought it. GM could've easily put a bowtie in place of the Saturn Badge and had a mini corvette. The car's performance is awesome! People stare at it and ask about it all the time. It's funny to see the confused look on peoples face when they realize it's a Saturn so I think the car is doing it's job for Saturn. I live in Pensacola, Fl, and had to drive to Tallahassee to get mine, (I didn't want to wait the 4 mos to order) Nobody from Shreeveport, LA to Atlanta had one, nobody in Alabama, or Mississippi and I looked all the way to Gainsville Fl and even they didn't have one. I got what I wanted, 3 pedals, monsoon, chrome wheels etc and couldn't be happier with it.

[buyacargetacheck]

I'm sure it's a great car. I like how they look.

I am the happy owner of a 3 week old Sky Redline. I looked and drove a GXP and liked it but the Sky's styling inside and out is why I bought it. GM could've easily put a bowtie in place of the Saturn Badge and had a mini corvette. The car's performance is awesome! People stare at it and ask about it all the time. It's funny to see the confused look on peoples face when they realize it's a Saturn so I think the car is doing it's job for Saturn. I live in Pensacola, Fl, and had to drive to Tallahassee to get mine, (I didn't want to wait the 4 mos to order) Nobody from Shreeveport, LA to Atlanta had one, nobody in Alabama, or Mississippi and I looked all the way to Gainsville Fl and even they didn't have one. I got what I wanted, 3 pedals, monsoon, chrome wheels etc and couldn't be happier with it.

[Northstar]

Fieros are more collectible than you think. Pristine examples can easily go for $10-15k or more, which in most cases is more than what they cost new. MSRP in 1988 for the top of the line GT was $13,999, $10,999 for the Formula, and $8,999 for the base. Explain to me how this qualifies as "little collectible interest".

He can't, he was just making everything he said up in the first place. It cannot be explained by anyone, including him.

I am the happy owner of a 3 week old Sky Redline. I looked and drove a GXP and liked it but the Sky's styling inside and out is why I bought it. GM could've easily put a bowtie in place of the Saturn Badge and had a mini corvette. The car's performance is awesome! People stare at it and ask about it all the time. It's funny to see the confused look on peoples face when they realize it's a Saturn so I think the car is doing it's job for Saturn. I live in Pensacola, Fl, and had to drive to Tallahassee to get mine, (I didn't want to wait the 4 mos to order) Nobody from Shreeveport, LA to Atlanta had one, nobody in Alabama, or Mississippi and I looked all the way to Gainsville Fl and even they didn't have one. I got what I wanted, 3 pedals, monsoon, chrome wheels etc and couldn't be happier with it.

Congrats, what color?

[A Horse With No Name]

Another element to the SKY's success over the Solstice is the element of suprise. No one woulda expected the SKY from Saturn, the "crappy plastic brand". Pontiac is supposed to be the racer brand. They were EXPECTED to have a Kappa-like car. The SKY is just a different type of car for the "different type of car" company. That may have something to do with its sales and having more of a draw towards Saturn as a brand, ya know, being the halo and all.

Also compared to, say, the Z4, Porsche Boxster, SKY, or Miata the Solstice looks like a bulbous onion-shaped flame surfaced wannabe POS, in my opinion of course.

And the SKY looks like a mini-'vette

Why am I such a dumbass? (I know plenty of you have probably asked that question, but...) I must be because I think the Solstice is probably one of the best looking cars of the 21st century and probably one of the best looking cars from Pontiac ever.

I must just be missing something here, but I seem to be the only one posting here who just loves the Solstice. Somebody please tell me what I am missing.

Chris

[A Horse With No Name]

He can't, he was just making everything he said up in the first place. It cannot be explained by anyone, including him.

Congrats, what color?

Yes, Humvee...we need pics!

Chris

[HUMVEE]

Yes, Humvee...we need pics!

Chris

It's Forest Green with black and Tan interior. I haven't taken any pics because I don't have a digital camera. 'Comon, y'all can't tell me you haven't seen any real world pics of a sky... :AH-HA_wink: But if you wan't to see a pretty cool site go to skyroadster.com. I'll try and get some soon.

[balthazar]

...I think the Solstice is probably one of the best looking cars of the 21st century and probably one of the best looking cars from Pontiac ever. I must just be missing something here, but I seem to be the only one posting here who just loves the Solstice. Somebody please tell me what I am missing.

I am totally with you on this one, Chris. The Sky is a sweet design, but it's nothing new: horizontal headlights, horizontal grille, a 'bumper'. The Solstice with it's 'bumperless' and radical nose, along with the breaks-the-headlight-plane split grilles is unique. It just comes off as more purposeful rather than 'pretty' to my eye.

Most people gravitate to the familiar- I for one tend to value the unique (as long as it's also a great design; no Pacers on my wish list!)

[dimitri0917]

Why am I such a dumbass? (I know plenty of you have probably asked that question, but...) I must be because I think the Solstice is probably one of the best looking cars of the 21st century and probably one of the best looking cars from Pontiac ever.

I must just be missing something here, but I seem to be the only one posting here who just loves the Solstice. Somebody please tell me what I am missing.

Chris

Solstice is the best looking Pontiac ever. But of this century? You have to be kidding yourself. It's original, but it just doesn't work. The SKY is hands down much better looking to most people. It's all preference, but the SKY is more conservative, and somewhat derivative, so that is why it fairs better at market.

[CMG]

Why am I such a dumbass? (I know plenty of you have probably asked that question, but...) I must be because I think the Solstice is probably one of the best looking cars of the 21st century and probably one of the best looking cars from Pontiac ever.

I must just be missing something here, but I seem to be the only one posting here who just loves the Solstice. Somebody please tell me what I am missing.

Chris

I for one think you are nuts! LOL (In a friendly way!)

I think the Sky is WAYYY better looking than a Solstice, no comparison at all for me.

I don't think it's better looking than most Pontiacs even. It's not BAD looking like an Aztec, but for a "sports car" it's very middle of the road as far as styling goes IMO.

Maybe it's ME that's missing something.

Unless you are joking..?

[CMG]

Solstice is the best looking Pontiac ever.

Please be joking.

Alot of GTO owners must be falling over backwards reading this thread...?

Catalina owners too...

Grand Prix owners... Firebird owners, Trans Am owners, etc etc etc

HERE! PICTURES SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS!!!!!!

Edited August 28, 2007 by CMG

[Cory Wolfe]

Please be joking.

Alot of GTO owners must be falling over backwards reading this thread...?

Catalina owners too...

Grand Prix owners... Firebird owners, Trans Am owners, etc etc etc

HERE! PICTURES SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS!!!!!!

Fiero owners, even. :wink:

[CaddyXLR-V]

I for one think you are nuts! LOL (In a friendly way!)

I think the Sky is WAYYY better looking than a Solstice, no comparison at all for me.

I don't think it's better looking than most Pontiacs even. It's not BAD looking like an Aztec, but for a "sports car" it's very middle of the road as far as styling goes IMO.

Maybe it's ME that's missing something.

Unless you are joking..?

I agree. And that picture really reminds me of a beaver. I'll take the Sky anyday over a Solstice.

[dimitri0917]

Please be joking.

Alot of GTO owners must be falling over backwards reading this thread...?

Catalina owners too...

Grand Prix owners... Firebird owners, Trans Am owners, etc etc etc

HERE! PICTURES SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS!!!!!!

I'm sorry, you named some ugly cars... Especially later in thier lives. Pontiac's styling has been on a downward spiral. And the Solstice is the best looking of Pontiacs. I was saying that to describe how ugly they are in general.

[CMG]

Fiero owners, even. :wink:

I'll agree with you on Fieros in this instance.

*astonishes myself*

I think the Fiero is a better looking car than a Solstice.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think the Solstice is "terrible" looking, but compared to some of the other Pontiacs of the past, or the new Sky roadster, I think it falls short in the looks department.

[Sixty8panther]

I still love the Solstice, I'd buy the Solstice if I was in the market.

So funny how many of you flavor-of-the-week types are not

impressed or thrilled with the Solstice but you were all goo-goo

& ga-ga over it when it was just a twinke in GM's eye.

As far as 2007 designs go the Pontiac Solstice is one of the best.

[CMG]

I still love the Solstice, I'd buy the Solstice if I was in the market.

So funny how many of you flavor-of-the-week types are not

impressed or thrilled with the Solstice but you were all goo-goo

& ga-ga over it when it was just a twinke in GM's eye.

As far as 2007 designs go the Pontiac Solstice is one of the best.

I'm not a "flavor of the week" guy in any way, shape or form. I didn't have much of an opinion shift when the concept made it into production.

I don't find the Solstice to be near the top ten in "2007 designs"....

To each his own.... I still think the Sky is way better looking.

[cletus8269]

It's Forest Green with black and Tan interior. I haven't taken any pics because I don't have a digital camera. 'Comon, y'all can't tell me you haven't seen any real world pics of a sky... :AH-HA_wink: But if you wan't to see a pretty cool site go to skyroadster.com. I'll try and get some soon.

boo you suck!... yar some people have all the luck, thats the exact color combo i wanted. did you get the chrome trim package too?