2010 Pontiac Firebird or GTO?

[Camino LS6]

Trans Am all the way!

Even if Firebird ever returns (unlikely), Trans Am will not.

[prinzSD]

Even if Firebird ever returns (unlikely), Trans Am will not.

Yep, you are right Camino. I don't think GM wants to pay royalties to the SCCA for a limited car, but I can still be wishfull

[*JC*]

It will be a Firebird and not a GTO !!!

(Not that I wouldn't perfer both on the table but that's my opinion. Regardless inside sources are allowing the GTO buzz to continue as it's the best way to keep their true intentions from being discovered)

That is if the sales of the 08 Camaro do as well as expected?

Look at some hard facts:

SSR truck 30,000+ vehicles sold over a 3 year span

04-06 GTO 50,000+ vehicles sold over a 3 year span

2002 the Camaro SS & WS6 Trans Am combined sold 27,000+ units alone that's not including all the V-6 base models, Camaro Z28's, or the SLP Firehawks... figure that into the equation and you've got nearly 100,000 vehicles being sold in a one year time span. It doesn't take rocket science to figure which was more profitable...

[K.C.]

There is a G8 GXP coming so lets let that drop the worry as there is not going to be a GTO G8 Sedan.

Will be lucky just to get a Zeta long wheel base coupe no mater what the name. I expect what ever Holden gets we will get one with some Body mods this time since it may be built in Canada by the time it reaches market.

My concern is the G8 GXP and new Zeta coupe will most likley carry many of the same bits for the suspension and engine. How many sales will a G8 GXP steal from the Zeta coupe? I am not a sedan fan but that is what sells today and if given the choice would it hurt coupe sales in a way that may make a Pontiac Zeta coupe short lived?

I see that it is on Pontiac to make this car different not only from other GM divisions but also offer things not available on a high end G8 Sedan. Give this car a cool factor that would make someone in a M5 look at you as you drive by. Add the things the Camaro won't have like a two stage exhaust like the Z06 and 2008 Vette, a magnetic Delphi coil overs, more aluminum and kevlar to make this car lighter, Brembo brakes, etc. Since your going to charge more than a Camaro you need to offer more standard cool items in other words make this a lower priced CTSv coupe.

Also refrain from the yearly cheap cheesey paint and sticker packages like FOrd does to stimulate sales. Offer real hardware up grades or changes and not some cheap Judge sticker package with Orbit Orange paint. If you want to be taken seriously by the money people you have to do better than the Stickers and wings.

We need this car to be cool enough affluent people would want a poster on the office wall like a 911 or M5. In other woeds make it sinful to the Vatican because of envy.

As much as many want retro here, we need this car to wow them at the A+W stand on Woodward but more so on Wall Street and Newport Beach.

The Z06 has done just that now it is time for Pontiac to do the same. The new Zeta coupe need to be Pontiac Z06 home run. This image will help the entire line.

The Vette is the best 2 seater, the CTSv is the best performance Sedan and let Pontiac have the best Performance Coupe.

Sing it brother!