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Just saw this on a deals forum that I frequent. Thought I would share it here because you probably won't hear about it anywhere else.

Cut & Paste or go to the thread link:

hxxp://i.slickdeals.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=11449&d=1140553277

It appears there is a problem with the OBD (On Board Dianostics) system that causes these Hondas not to comply with the California emissions regulations. So much for Honda's greenie image. They are paying to replace faulty emissions equipment, and any you may have already replaced.

Check out the main forum thread and see how many people have had problems: http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.ph...04&t=202836

Seems like alot of problems to me. A ton of people on there have gotten parts replaced, and they still think their Hondas are great :stupid: .....and it's not even a car forum. It is a pretty cool forum to discuss good deals though. I like the "Freebies" section.

Edited by BrewSwillis
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I think this will be thread No. 397,460,178 where I mention "HONDA SUCKS!"

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Those cars are over a decade old.

How do they suddenly not comply with California emissions standards?

Well, if you can understand legalese.....here you go:

DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

Notice of Lodging of Consent Decree

Under The Clean Air Act

Under 28 CFR 50.7, notice is hereby

given that on June 8, 1998, a proposed

Consent Decree in United States v.

American Honda Motor, Co., Inc., Civil

Action No. 98–01433, was lodged with

the United States District Court for the

District of Columbia.

The United States has asserted, in a

civil complaint under the Clean Air Act,

42 U.C.S. 7401 et seq., that certain

model-year 1995, 1996, and 1997

American Honda vehicles fail to comply

with the emission-control requirements

of the Act and the regulations

promulgated thereunder relating to the

detection of engine misfire through the

use of computerized on-board

diagnostics. Under the proposed

Consent Decree, American Honda has

agreed to resolve the United States’

claims by proving each current and all

subsequent owners of Honda vehicles

covered by the settlement with a 14

year/150,000 mile extended emissions

warranty, a free engine check at any

time between 50,000 an 75,000 miles of

use (to identify emission-related defects

covered by the extended emissions

warranty), plus a free tune up (to

maintain the engines’ emissions

performance) at any time between

75,000 and 150,000 miles of use. The

Decree requires American Honda to

notify affected owners of the extended

emissions warranty and services

available under the Decree (including

persons who purchase the vehicles from

current owners) following entry of the

Consent Decree by the Court, again

when each vehicle is approximately

four years old, and a final time when the

vehicle is approximately 9 years old.

Further, Honda will pay $10.1 in civil

penalties and spend $1 million to

implement a supplemental

environmental project to enhance the

use of on-board diagnostics by the states

in connection with their motor vehicle

emissions inspection and maintenance

programs.

The Department of Justice will receive

for a period of thirty (30) days from the

date of this publication comments

relating to the Consent Decree.

Comments should be addressed to the

Assistant Attorney General of the

Environmental and Natural Resources

Division, Department of Justice,

Washington, DC 20530, and should refer

to United States and American Honda

Motor, Co., Inc., Civil Action No. 98–

01433, D.J. Ref. 90–5–2–1–2170.

The Consent Decree may be examined

at the Office of the United States

Attorney for the District of Columbia,

Judiciary Center Bldg., 555 Fourth St.,

NW., Washington, DC 20001; at the

Environmental Protection Agency

Library, Reference Desk, Room 2904,

401 M Street, SW., Washington, DC

20460; and at the Consent Decree

Library, 1120 G Street, NW., 4th Floor,

Washington, DC 20005, 202–624–0892.

A copy of the Consent Decree may be

obtained in person or by mail from the

Consent Decree Library, 1120 G Street,

NW., 4th Floor, Washington, DC 20005.

In requesting a copy, please enclose a

check in the amount of $21.50 (25 cents

per page reproduction cost) payable to

the Consent Decree Library.

Joel M. Gross,

Chief, Environmental Enforcement Section,

Environment and Natural Resources Division.

[FR Doc. 98–16214 Filed 6–17–98; 8:45 am]BILLING CODE 4410–15–M

http://www.epa.gov/OMS/url-fr/fr18jn98.pdf

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