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2008 Subaru Legacy/Outback

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DETROIT, Jan. 7, 2007 – Subaru of America, Inc., today presented the North American debut of its re-designed 2008 Subaru Legacy and Outback models, at the 2007 North American International Auto Show at Cobo Hall. Subaru also debuted its new flagship sedan model, the Subaru Legacy 3.0 R Limited, a first-ever 6-cylinder Legacy model for the North American market.

An All-Wheel Drive pioneer, Subaru is the only brand to equip all its models with Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive as standard. The Legacy 3.0 R is positioned to compete against midsize All-Wheel Drive performance sedans and introduces a performance-oriented paddle-shift transmission along with Subaru Intelligent Drive (SI-DRIVE) performance-control plus Bilstein Sport Suspension and 18-inch wheels and tires.

The 2008 Legacy and Outback model lines are each distinguished by revised styling for 2008, featuring new grille with chrome crossbars and a central Subaru logo that represents the company’s aeronautical heritage. The new 2008 Subaru Legacy features all-new front sheet metal with a larger grille opening, new front and rear bumper fascias, and new headlights and taillights. The new front and rear bumpers feature reduced overhangs for a sportier and more contemporary appearance.

For 2008, the Subaru Outback also debuts new front sheet metal, but features a larger and more upright grille for a bolder appearance. Combined with the new grille and front fascia, the re-designed fenders and hood deliver a more rugged look. The Outback also features unique fog lights and new wheels for the XT and six-cylinder models.

Inside, Legacy and Outback models gain a redesigned instrument panel and revised interior fabrics. A telescopic steering column and a new integrated ignition key/remote entry unit are now standard. Distinctive electroluminescent gauges, formerly featured only on the turbo Legacy and Outback models, will now be on the 6-cylinder models for 2008. On the premium models, a redesigned steering wheel offers additional controls, including the audio system, cruise control, the multi-information display and separate SI-DRIVE controls.

For 2008, the advanced Vehicle Dynamics Control (VDC) stability and traction system will be offered in more Legacy and Outback models, and the Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) is now standard on all Legacy and Outback models.

Legacy and Outback Safety Leadership

The Subaru Legacy has garnered the highest award from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) – “Top Safety Pick” – in the midsize car segment. Both the Outback and Legacy achieved the highest rating (“Good”) in IIHS frontal offset, side and rear impact tests. In addition, both the Legacy and Outback received 5-star ratings for the driver and front passenger and rear passengers in the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) New Car Assessment Program (NCAP) crash tests.

Legacy 3.0 R Limited: The Complete Grand Touring Sedan

The 2008 Legacy 3.0 R Limited Sedan takes its place above the 2.5 GT spec.B model as the model line's performance/luxury flagship sedan. The new 6-cylinder 3.0 R Limited, with a 245-hp 6-cylinder Boxer engine, shares a similar Bilstein Sport Suspension, but with different components and tuning. Overall, the Legacy 3.0 R Limited is designed to provide the refined, sophisticated, and exciting performance typically expected from premium European All-Wheel Drive sedans.

The Legacy 2.5 GT spec.B, equipped exclusively with a 6-speed manual transmission, will continue to emphasize exciting turbo performance, with blistering acceleration (0-60 mph in less than six seconds) and maximum driver involvement. Both of these high-performance models features 18-inch alloy wheels, each model distinguished by its own wheel design.

New Paddle-Shift Transmission

In the turbo and 6-cylinder Legacy and Outback models equipped with the 5-speed automatic transmission (standard on 6-cylinder models), new steering wheel paddle shifters add a new dimension of driver involvement. The driver will be able to manually control gearshifts by using either the console shift or the paddle shifters. Adding to the driving excitement with this transmission is a new “downshift blipping control” that gives the rev-matching behavior of an expertly shifted manual transmission. This transmission also features improved shift quality and performance for 2008.

SI-DRIVE: Three Levels of Performance in One Car

The 2008 Legacy 3.0 R Limited shares its 3.0-liter DOHC 6-cylinder Boxer engine with the Outback 3.0 R L.L.Bean Edition. This smooth powerplant produces 245 horsepower at 6,600 rpm and 215 lb.-ft. of torque at 4,200 rpm. The Active Valve Control System (AVCS) variable valve timing system, in concert with Active Valve Lift System (AVLS) technology, helps optimize power at all engine speeds.

In the 2008 Legacy 3.0 R Limited and 6-cylinder Outback models, the driver will enjoy exercising more control over this turbine-smooth engine with the SI-DRIVE system. SI-DRIVE, which was first introduced for the 2007 model-year Legacy and Outback turbo models, allows the driver to maximize engine performance, control and efficiency by choosing from among three selectable modes – “Intelligent,” “Sport” and “Sport Sharp.” The driver selects the performance mode by using a rotary dial on the center console or, newly added for 2008, a button on the steering wheel.

SI-DRIVE enables three distinctively different modes of vehicle performance characteristics by regulating the engine control unit (ECU) – as well as the transmission control unit in the automatic transmission models – and by fine-tuning the electronically controlled throttle.

With "Intelligent" mode selected, the system reduces engine torque and maximum power and switches to a more relaxed throttle response curve and is an excellent choice for smoother response while commuting in traffic congestion, for example, where it can also help boost fuel efficiency by up to 10 percent. In addition, “Intelligent” mode’s more relaxed responses and lower torque output make it an ideal complement to the low-traction-surface driving capability provided by the Subaru Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive System.

The SI-DRIVE system’s “Sport” mode yields quick throttle responses and powerful, linear acceleration. In “Sport Sharp” mode, the SI-DRIVE system modifies the engine’s electronic throttle mapping to deliver quickest throttle response and more power earlier. Delivering maximum driving enjoyment, “Sport Sharp” mode is ideal for tackling twisty roads and for confidently merging or overtaking other vehicles on the highway.

With the 5-speed automatic transmission (standard on 6-cyl. models), SI-DRIVE affects the transmission’s shift patterns with the performance mode selected and holds each gear longer, through the rpm range and downshift quicker under hard acceleration, making it an ideal performance partner for the new paddle-shift automatic transmission.

The SI-DRIVE system includes instrument panel displays that allow the driver to monitor performance. The multi-information display located in the tachometer face – in addition to providing trip computer functions – denotes the selected SI-DRIVE mode and provides an active torque curve display. When “Intelligent” mode is selected, an “ECO” gauge encourages efficient driving habits, and in vehicles with a manual transmission, a shift-up indicator blinks to signal the optimal shift point for maximum fuel efficiency.

Bilstein Sport Suspension

The Bilstein Sport Suspension equips the Legacy 3.0 R Limited with performance-tuned shock absorbers for improved cornering. Though similar to the Bilstein Sport Suspension used on the Legacy 2.5 GT spec.B, the system on the 3.0 R Limited differs in components and tuning and is configured for a ride-and-handling balance unique to this model.

On the 2008 Legacy 3.0 R Limited, standard 18-inch alloy wheels are fitted with 215/45 R18 Bridgestone Potenza RE92 all-season tires (Bridgestone Potenza RE050A summer performance tires in the same size on the 2.5 GT spec.B model). A 4-wheel disc Anti-lock Brake System (ABS) with Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD) is standard on all Legacy models. The 3.0 R Limited features the same 4-wheel vented disc brakes as the 2.5 GT Limited and 2.5 GT spec.B models.

Stealthy Design, Luxurious Interior

The Legacy 3.0 R Limited exterior is distinguished by subtle aerodynamic side ground-effects moldings with chrome trim. This model also features an exclusive 7-spoke, 18-inch alloy wheel design. This new, sophisticated performance model projects an even “stealthier” appearance than its 2.5 GT spec.B sibling, without that model’s tell-tale functional hood scoop that is featured on all turbocharged Subaru models.

The Legacy 3.0 R Limited and 2.5 GT spec.B models also differ in interior design. The 3.0 R Limited emphasizes a more subtle, luxurious cabin with standard perforated leather seats. The Subaru Navigation System will also be standard on the 3.0 R Limited.

Standard luxury features in the 3.0 R Limited include performance-design power-adjustable front seats with 2-position memory system for the driver, dual-zone automatic climate control, power glass moonroof, 4-stage heated front seats, and heated exterior mirrors. The standard audio system includes an in-dash 6-disc CD changer and Satellite Radio capability.

Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive

Subaru All-Wheel Drive systems are organized under the “Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive” branding umbrella. Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive is a total system that integrates a lightweight horizontally opposed (Boxer) engine and a full-time power distribution system.

Subaru will again offer three different versions of Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive in the 2008 Legacy and Outback models, each tailored to the type of transmission. The 2008 6-cylinder models (and the turbo Legacy and Outback models equipped with the 5-speed automatic transmission) use a version of the system called Variable Torque Distribution (VTD). A planetary gear-type center differential works with an electronically controlled continuously variable hydraulic transfer clutch to manage power distribution. The VTD system normally directs more power to the rear wheels (45:55) to enhance handling agility, and it continuously adjusts the power distribution in response to driving and road conditions.

Models with the VTD system are also equipped with the advanced Vehicle Dynamics Control (VDC) stability and traction system. VDC is designed to help keep the vehicle going in the direction the driver is steering, especially in slippery road conditions. The VDC system can be deactivated for conditions that require some wheel slippage, such as extricating the car from deep snow. VDC will be available on additional Legacy and Outback models for 2008.

In all Legacy and Outback models with a manual transmission, a viscous-coupling locking center differential distributes the power 50:50 front to rear. Slippage at either set of wheels will send more power to the opposite set of wheels. On 4-cylinder Legacy and Outback models equipped with the 4-speed automatic transmission (standard on 2.5 i Limited models), an electronically managed continuously variable transfer clutch actively manages power distribution based on acceleration, deceleration and available traction, also transferring more power to the wheels with the best grip should slippage occur.

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[source: Subaru of America]

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I like the current exterior better. The interior is nice though.

My initial reaction is the same. I will withhold judgment until I see it in person. Designs often come across very differently in real life.
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Looks like partial ownership of Toyota isn't helping improve design anymore then what it was under GM. These cars are getting more outdated by the year.

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Judging by the above images, photoshop is not Subaru's friend.

Anyway, it looks like they gave the front-fascia some more definition. I think it looks good inside and out.

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So that's where BMW's early '90s 3-series sheetmetal dies got to! (cover the nose in the 2nd pic).

Where's the all the bloated, drooping, ribbed 2-tone cladding?? How else are consumers supposed to know it's a subaru??

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Yawn-this boring, dated car has no real advantage over the competition-I'll take the boring and underpowered but far roomier Ford Five Hundred (or the smaller and less boring/underpowered Fusion) for similar/less money. Sure its been redesigned every 5 years, but they look too much the same-more so than Silverado and the other GMT900 trucks.

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I like it, I've always thought these were fine cars and they should get more credit/sales than they do. Everyone I know who owns even the previous gen Outback loves them.

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Still, by far, the most underrated midsize sedan in the market. And if you ask me, it's the best looking and most unique. Boxer engines, frameless door glass, standard AWD, a luxurious interior, and timeless exterior styling? Please... Forget any Accord, Camry, Fusion, Aura, or Malibu. I'll take this.

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The pre-MCE model was nicer than this, with the interior the exception (although it reminds me of a few Saab, Opel, and Holden models).

It still sounds like a nice drive, however, as far as the mechanicals go.

Looks like partial ownership of Toyota isn't helping improve design anymore then what it was under GM.

If anything, it's getting worse. And a little more boring.

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good looking and a good car, but Subaru either makes something so ugly and different and polarizing, or they do almost nothing at all to make no one aware they have a new car at all. it doesn't make much sense to me

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Still, by far, the most underrated midsize sedan in the market. And if you ask me, it's the best looking and most unique. Boxer engines, frameless door glass, standard AWD, a luxurious interior, and timeless exterior styling? Please... Forget any Accord, Camry, Fusion, Aura, or Malibu. I'll take this.

Thank you.

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What's so special about "frameless door glass"?

Anyway, a friend of mine had one of these. It was a solid car but was plagued with small quality problems (Contrary to what CR says----No surprise there) More specifically, the carpet kept coming up in the back floor and the dash trim actually started 'melting' off. It was the strangest thing I had ever seen, it craked and withered up, then slid off.

He ended up getting rid of the car, I'm not sure why.

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What's so special about "frameless door glass"?

Anyway, a friend of mine had one of these. It was a solid car but was plagued with small quality problems (Contrary to what CR says----No surprise there) More specifically, the carpet kept coming up in the back floor and the dash trim actually started 'melting' off. It was the strangest thing I had ever seen, it craked and withered up, then slid off.

He ended up getting rid of the car, I'm not sure why.

FRAMELESS GLASS DOORS, NEVER AGAIN. had 2 dia's with em and never again. worst moment. getting into the car clipping an earlobe on the sharp edge of the door glass. PAIN PAIN PAIN. not to mention the seal is never as good as framed. and honestly the diamante did the frameless glass pretty well, built precise, its just inherently an undesirable design.

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I think my sister's Diamante has noticeable rattle when closing her doors with the frameless window halfway open.

If so, it's the same problem that my father-in-law's 85 Seville has. (For those keeping score, my wife and I gave it to him as a gift about a year ago from my parents' driveway. And I will probably mention this every time I say that it's his car.)

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Yep, My '97 Eclipse rattle too, but it is an inherent problem, if you don't have something supporting the glass at the top it si bound to move and cause a noise.

Back to the Suby though, I think they are underrated as well. Rather unexciting to look at, but for what they offer for the price its not a bad deal. Glad to see more V6's too. The Boxer engine is proven and stout, but I have a bit of a stigma with purchasing a 4-cyl ever again...although the Turbo helps and keep the HP competitive.

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Last night, my partner traded in his '04 Impreza STi for an '07 Legacy Spec B...which is now his THIRD Subaru. Those Subie owners sure are loyal!

Previously, I never gave the Legacy much thought, but after some comparison and review, it's obviously athletic, smooth, quick, elegant...and the handling & grip in the rain is phenomenal...it poured on us all the way home from the dealer.

I could keep building a list of positive Spec B attributes. It's a strong, compelling product. Great dealer. And there's a unique sense of "being a part of a club" when in the company of other Subie owners & loyalists.

The Legacy is easily overlooked and under-appreciated in the marketplace. Here in Houston, Texas, Subarus are relatively rare...so it feels even more special to have a "limited item" like the Spec B in our garage.

Looking at the pics of the 2008 Legacy on this site, I see no worthwhile differences. Again, it's a lovely car any way you approach it. I know we will thoroughly enjoy this sexy '07...once we learn how to use the nav system!

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I've always liked Subies, for their earnest funkiness. I'm glad the SAAB tribute grille has been nixed. I prefer the traditional Subaru persona, and the Tribeca just doesn't fit with the rest of the line, the Forester is more of what I want and expect a Subaru SUV to be. Too bad the Baja hasn't sold well, but it's no BRAT. I love the growl of the boxer engine. I am fearful that Toyota may suck the life out of this scrappy, little, yet endearing brand. I can't wait to see the new Impreza.

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