Crossover Concerns - GM Can't Decide

[regfootball]

Crossover Concerns - Autoweek

DETROIT -- General Motors ad executives know how to advertise the three new crossover vehicles coming to market. They're just not sure yet what to call them.

A crossover is a unibody vehicle with more carlike handling than an SUV built on a body-on-frame truck platform. But it sits higher than a car and has cargo space and seating similar to a station wagon's or SUV's.

Some marketers describe crossovers as carlike SUVs, crossover utility vehicles, sport wagons or tall wagons. No one in marketing is sure what term will click with consumers.

[FAPTurbo]

I just know them as crossovers...

But I wonder. Maybe GM should give them a new term... something other than "crossover". Something so they aren't lumped in the "crossover" category, to show they are something new, and something fresh.

[ohsnap]

I always hear crossover but from time to time I hear CUV and SAV.

[aaaantoine]

I just know them as crossovers...

But I wonder. Maybe GM should give them a new term... something other than "crossover". Something so they aren't lumped in the "crossover" category, to show they are something new, and something fresh.

204301[/snapback]

I get what you're saying, but are they really all that different from a typical crossover?

[FAPTurbo]

I get what you're saying, but are they really all that different from a typical crossover?

204355[/snapback]

Not really, but who cares. If I was marketing for GM, I'd try to give it a new category, or something a little different, just so it doesn't get lumped in with vehicles like the Toyota Matrix, and the Ford Freestyle.

[aaaantoine]

Not really, but who cares. If I was marketing for GM, I'd try to give it a new category, or something a little different, just so it doesn't get lumped in with vehicles like the Toyota Matrix, and the Ford Freestyle.

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All I know is they better not come out saying "We don't know what to call it" because that's a played out cliché.

They should just flat out call them what they are: Luxury Crossovers. That will lump them with the likes of the RX and the FX.

[Mr.Krinkle]

i never cared for that term, crossover. aside from the fact its too close to roll over

it does a lousy job of explaining the platform.

[FAPTurbo]

Luxury Crossover?...

I wonder is there's a way you can bring it down a few letters and make it a little catchier?...

Maybe something done with the "X" in Luxury to become the "cross" (X=cross) in crossover? Kinda hard to describe.

[sciguy_0504]

Enclave - Luxury Utility Vehicle

Acadia - Sport Activity Vehicle

OUTLOOK - Family Activity/Utility Vehicle

[Carguy]

They should just refer to them as the "NEXT STEP IN THE SUV" or the "FUTURE OF THE SUV! Sell them as something ADVANCED something FUTUREISTIC the "NEW ADVANCEMENT OF THE ALL AMERICAN SUV!----It does not need a NAME REALLY!

[Satty]

Station F*cking Wagon?

[FAPTurbo]

"Station wagon" sounds too fogey, and I don't think it fits the Lambda's...

Now the Dodge Magnum, That's a "station f*cking wagon" ... with extra emphasis on f*ck because it's so f*cking awesome.

[Croc]

Just say "Premium Crossover"

[turbo200]

Just say "Premium Crossover"

204485[/snapback]

yep, it's what everyone else and the mainstream media are calling these cars, so they should go by this.

[regfootball]

They should just refer to them as the "NEXT STEP IN THE SUV" or the "FUTURE OF THE SUV! Sell them as something ADVANCED something FUTUREISTIC the "NEW ADVANCEMENT OF THE ALL AMERICAN SUV!----It does not need a NAME REALLY!

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yes. best idea so far.

crossover to me sounds like a hetero deciding to switch teams, or vice versa. 'i am crossing over'.

how bout 'sport hatch'

Edited October 13, 2006 by regfootball

[Guest buickman]

Just say "Premium Crossover"

204485[/snapback]

The "Premium Crossover" could be shortened to "PC" and GM could build from the term by playing off the computer analogy and incorporating things like the high level of electronics included such as OnStar, DVD, IPod, XM, Navigation, etc...

In today's world, it seems people tinker more with computers than they do cars, so let's appeal to their lifestyle. We could even take it a step further and call them "Midsize Premium Crossover" and advertise "Get More MPG in your MPC".

Buickman

the voice...

Edited October 15, 2006 by buickman

[4gm]

How about "Family Utility Car"? or "FUC" for short.

[joe_cool]

How about "Family Utility Car"? or "FUC" for short.

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LMAO!

[Robert Hall]

Just call them what they are....wagons.

[Croc]

Just call them what they are....wagons.

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except that they really aren't. They are no more of a wagon than a minivan is.

[Robert Hall]

except that they really aren't.  They are no more of a wagon than a minivan is.

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Why not? They are tall wagons...people movers. They are more wagons than they are SUVs...(aren't they available in FWD versions? (real SUVs aren't FWD).

Edited October 16, 2006 by moltar

[Flybrian]

I'd argue both these and SUV are wagons.

[scharmer05]

I'd argue both these and SUV are wagons.

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Yeah, you are right, but the word wagon just reminds me of station wagons....and that sucks.

[Robert Hall]

Yeah, you are right, but the word wagon just reminds me of station wagons....and that sucks.

205477[/snapback]

Station wagons are cool, IMHO...I esp. like the old '60s-80s land yacht ones with the fake wood trim on the sides...

For modern wagons that I like, the Merc E63 AMG wagon is pretty much the coolest, though the Magnum SRT-8 is pretty cool (but less practical).

Edited October 16, 2006 by moltar

[Croc]

I think when most people hear "wagon" they envision something sedan-based. These clearly are not sedan-based. I could see the Pacifica being called a "tall wagon" but not these...they just look far too different for that.

The Lambda platform was originally conceived as minivan architecture, so I think these are really just fancy, stylish minivans, especially considering what they replace.

[enzl]

I don't get the problem.

Why not market them as being everything you might need?

(Ex. Tows like a BOF SUV, economy of a car, space of a minivan, etc...)

GM needs to push this program up, just like the GMT900's...

[Mr.Krinkle]

I don't get the problem.

Why not market them as being everything you might need?

(Ex. Tows like a BOF SUV, economy of a car, space of a minivan, etc...)

GM needs to push this program up, just like the GMT900's...

205545[/snapback]

they need a snappy name.

[regfootball]

I think when most people hear "wagon" they envision something sedan-based.  These clearly are not sedan-based.  I could see the Pacifica being called a "tall wagon" but not these...they just look far too different for that.

The Lambda platform was originally conceived as minivan architecture, so I think these are really just fancy, stylish minivans, especially considering what they replace.

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they have a couple main differences from minivans

-hinged rear doors

-full dash and center console

those two features alone make a vastly different vehicle in funtion to many. Yet, this machine is 3 row and hauls 4 x8 plywood (another minivan hallmark).

in the final analysis, these vehicles become huge hits because they are closest an SUV has yet delivered in function vs. a minivan, but it sheds the dorky factor and latches on to the SUV's turned crossover phase. They still look tough, yet not so butch so they still look great in an urban setting. Wish I had the coin, I'd have an Acadia on order right now.