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Whew. Somehow I feel excluded from that fold, so thank you. I will be more than happy to continue as the designated pedant.

That's very thoughtful of you to commemorate her the way you have. It's great to have people in one's life who shape it with the positive though, sadly, we will always have some who try to inject the negative. I'm sorry for your loss. That's a nice photo of her and she clearly radiated positive energy.

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Okay Dfelt, 9 minutes of my life gone watching the Kia EV 3 video twice. That is a game changer. That thing is seven kinds of good looking, seems practical. Could see that in the driveway next to the Ranger.

Its like an atom splitting apart in the cosmic sense, all of the good energy went to you, all of the bad energy went to Elon. It was meant to be....think of the giant asshole you would be were he never to have been born. She seems like an awesome lady. My last grandmother passed away in 1982, the first one passed away in 69 or 70. It couldn't happen to better folks.... I can't wait for whatever insane symbols the fed puts on our money.... Yeah, and the jerks seem to be gone from C and G, enjoying my stay here as of late. The only really attractive vehicles IMHO are current Cadillacs and Audis. Might be just the ticket.

Pour one out for my grandmother who passed away Monday evening after a long hospice stay. She passed peacefully and pain free in her sleep. If you trace things back far enough, she is a big contributor to me being here on Cheers and Gears and thus C&G still existing. It was her and her 1979 Olds Custom Cruiser Diesel like the one below that got me into cars around the age of three. At three, it was my job to tell her when the Wait To Start Light went out so the could start the car and I got to press the garage door opener buttons.

No, 300 is not to my liking ... pref 400, or 350. I am not in a home charging situation. Until that situation settles, I will not be considering an EV.

Based on treasury bonds, I suspect a solid recession starting next year. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/savingandinvesting/what-s-behind-the-shocking-sudden-rise-in-interest-rates-over-the-past-few-weeks/ar-AA1ulBxL?ocid=BingHp01&cvid=0f0f94dbd45c4f50e28c4da964b477a6&ei=67

Very interesting, seems new funny money is on the way. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/goodbye-to-these-bills-target-announces-it-will-not-accept-these-dollars-starting-in-december/ar-AA1umriY?ocid=BingHp01&cvid=0f0f94dbd45c4f50e28c4da964b477a6&ei=25 quote: Alongside these new security measures, the Federal Reserve plans to release updated designs for the $5, $20, $50, and $100 bills in the coming years. The updated $50 bill will debut in 2028, the $20 bill in 2030, the $5 bill between 2032 and 2035, and the $100 bill between 2034 and 2038.

So question, being 800V, I know the Kia will charge faster than anything else out there when using DC fast chargers. 11kW Level 2 home charging is great as that is what my EV9 has and roughly 4 to 6 hours later the auto is fully charged. EV3 is supposed to have 300 miles, is that enough for you to consider the EV3 and the style in the video above, would it be of interest to you if priced starting at $30,000 FWD or $32,500 AWD with a 280 mile range. Just interested in what your thoughts are as we move forward as companies that have built EV's cannot at this point stop and not produce them when they are engineered and being built for markets. Is the EV3 a possible contender knowing that a new Chevrolet BOLT is coming? Totally agree, dates are just dates, @Robert Hall is not the narcissist Musk is, but a cool friendly guy, one of the C&G family!

Fortunately, you dont share his jerk attitude and his lack of self awareness of being said jerk.

Three items for me that would be highly important in deciding which, and when, for an EV: 1 Price 2 Range 3 Ease of charging ... I'm talking availability of places and time to do it Honorable mention: Attractive enough ... it can't be dowdy, looking like some appliance or robot

Everything I have read including on the Korean Auto websites tend to say 2025 as a 2026 model. You can watch the reveal here on the 21st. KIA AMERICA TO UNVEIL FIVE NEW VEHICLES AT UPCOMING LOS ANGELES AUTO SHOW Narcissistic Musk has stated he is fine with Trump killing IRA, the problem is the Billions and Billions committed to battery plants that are in solid RED States that the house and senate members have now come out and said that IRA CANNOT be killed as it will cost the states billions and thousands of jobs. Trump won on economy lies and being the only person who could fix manufacturing in the US. Kia has already scaled back the production of their hottest EV9 as they fear the loss of the IRA rebate on day one if Trump follows through and via President Order kills IRA. I suspect he is going to face major backlash over this, and it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Democrats and other groups are also demanding that if he kills IRA, they want the Approximately $650 billion in subsidies paid to the oil companies to be killed off also. Very interesting times we are in. Agree that I think the Bolt and EV3 will go on sales very close to each other in 2025 as 2026 models. I also agree that if Chevrolet does not do a better style job on the BOLT, they will lose out to the EV3. Bigger issue is that the BOLT is going to need to be more than FWD. EV3 will be available in FWD and AWD according to Kia as they are selling it in other markets. As such, Chevrolet is going to have to step up their game in Style and options of drive train.

I agree that the Bolt needs to look better than it did. Indeed it was ugly. However, that didnt stop the Bolt from being the #2 seller in EV sales fro several years before it got canned. Yeah...it was a top seller and its sales only got higher every year until it was stopped being produced. Hyundai/KIA are on a roll with their EVs. That will only continue with the EV3 here in North America. Chevrolet better get it right with the Bolt 2.0 as THIS time around the Bolt will have a competitor. The Tesla Model 3 and it were not really in the same niche for them to be considered competitors. RWD/AWD 'sport' sedan versus FWD compact car/ compact CUV. The Nissan Leaf DID have an edge in sales with the Bolt but Nissan never tended to it. Never gave it some love and affection to make it matter and make it to be wanted by the EV buying public. Somehow Chevrolet did that with the Bolt, ironically, DESPITE when they decided to can it. They brought it back because they saw a small backlash from that decision from the EV Chevrolet buying public.

I don't know. I have no doubt Mexico City is interesting. I learned to speak Spanish from college courses, traveling, and living in California, and I don't know if I'd go. Acapulco, which was always painted like the Honolulu of Mexico while growing up as well as a preferred stop for ships, is now really sketchy. The border towns are definitely sketchy. I went to Rio de Janeiro for 4 days almost 20 years ago. I had one dicey situation that I read and got away from, but I can't get the place out of my head. That said, everyone, including Brazilians, have told me it's now even worse. It's stunning, but I'll pass. As much as I hate organized tours, I feel they might the way to go if checking out "fringe" places. I'd say Madrid over Mexico City. Madrid is an impressive city, but so damn hot and dry during the summer.

Unfortunately, I share a birthday with Elon.

Fortunately, most people view Elon negatively. Sadly, some people may have "listened" to him. "Listening to Prozac" might be better than doing that.

My guess would be they're only like 4-6 months apart, maybe less. That 2026 could turn into model year which could turn into middle of next year. I would never guess sooner but Kia/Hyundai seem to be on a roll. The Bolt needs to look better. Period. It could be for sale before or after the EV3, but if it still looks like a Bolt, it won't do well again.

I googled really quickly to find out about the EV3 release date. Keep in mind its a quick search. No real searching. And I read that the EV3 is due out for 2026. If memory serves me right, the Bolt is due for mid 2025. I may be wrong about that. Now, barring any setbacks and/or rollbacks. the Chevorlet is due out before the KIA. And the KIA also has to deal with setbacks and rollbacks. But yeah, Chevrolet has to get the Bolt out ASAP without any issues and quality problems. But it aint KIA that Im fearing. Its Trump and his impending ideologies regarding EVs that wikl be a setback to the Bolt, but not JUST the Bolt, but ANY EVs sold in the US but THAT will inlcude the KIA EV3 with the same Trump inflicted problems. I see a far bigger problem. Elon is attached to him like lamprey are attched to Great Lake fish. Will Trumpster apply the same limitations on Telsa EVs as he might with other EVs? And if he will, how will Musk react? And if not, how will KIA, Hyundai, GM, Stellantis, BMW, Mercedes, VW and others react when they ALL have changed their business model to change to EVs and the WORLD has adapted to BEING an EV future? Its just not going to be that everybody will JJUST have ICEVs for the American market and EVs for the other markets. And its incredibly bad for the Detroit automakers. The Detroit 2.5 WILL go bankrupt if Trump will favour anti-EV tactics...

Today Kia will show off at the LA auto show their EV3 compact with mid size interior space, selling out in Europe and Asia where it has been released, seems this $30,000 EV might be the home run hit people are looking for with 300 miles of range. Chevrolet needs to get the Ultium BOLT out ASAP, otherwise EV3 will eat their lunch I think.

Strange days indeed...

I so want to travel. Going places just makes me want to see more.