Quick Drive: 2014 Mercedes-Benz CLA45 AMG

MB like BMW seems to have gone over the top in building over priced cheap auto's that only Badge snobs would pay for. They have Whored out their product line and need to clean house.

The rear end of that thing is hideous!!!!!!

Don't forget the red seatbelts!

The only MB I have driven was a late '90s E430, and it too had distinct lags when hitting the gas AND in the brakes engaging. I see mercedes is still battling with the same engineering problems.

$64K and the infotainment is optional?? HUGELY overpriced, esp when you consider the base car starts at $29K. MB hasn't come close to adding $35K worth of value to this. They're going to have to slap S-class incentives on this to move it beyond the initial impulse buyers.

I think $64k is insane for this car, if you took out the performance seats for $3,800 (which seems like a Porsche type option and price) and if they either made the premium package or multimedia package standard, then it gets down to $57k loaded, which I could see as reasonable.  I mean there are Nissan Maximas and Chevy Impalas priced over $40k, and a Chevy Tahoe can cost $70k loaded, so cars all over the place are over priced. 

My car has a bit of a dead zone in the pedal also, I think Mercedes just does that with a lot of cars, but it is good that they do or else my neck would be snapping back every time I hit the gas.  The other thing is Mercedes when in comfort setting on the transmission start in 2nd gear so they feel even more slow off the line, but I think it is done for comfort and the buyers over age 60.  On the CLA45 AMG they should include AirMatic, that would help with the suspension problem, that is an easy fix they have in house, so we'll see if they bother to do it.

Personally I'd much rather have the coming C400 with the 339 hp turbo V6, and you can get Airmatic on that and an AMG appearance package and it would probably be closer to $50k.

I would take a good American auto with a V8 over any of the German turbo 4 bangers or 6 any day. I can expect a low cost maintenance and long life compared to the over priced imagined value of BMW or MB.

There aren't many American V8s left anymore.  Lincoln doesn't have any, Cadillac only has the CTS-V which is much bigger and wouldn't surprise me if the new one pushes $90,000.  So you have the 300C/Charger and Chevy SS which are all big cars and not really luxury cars either.  Hard to compare a Mustang or Camaro to a CLA45 AMG, since it is coupe vs sedan, non-luxury vs luxury, etc.

I have a German V8 though and it is fabulous.  I wouldn't want a turbo 4 from any country.

dfelt didn't say "brand new".

CLA isn't a luxury car, it's a FWD appliance with abundant cheapness, according to too many reviews. It's rock bottom pricing also precludes it from being classified as 'luxury' (insanity that the AMG version's tag is, aside).

300C is much more appealing overall, IMO, primarily because it's not mistaken for a hyundai. 

At $64k you're at 300c SRT8 level... or for another $3k you're into a base Maserati Ghibli.

dfelt didn't say "brand new".

 

CLA isn't a luxury car, it's a FWD appliance with abundant cheapness, according to too many reviews. It's rock bottom pricing also precludes it from being classified as 'luxury' (insanity that the AMG version's tag is, aside).

 

300C is much more appealing overall, IMO, primarily because it's not mistaken for a hyundai. 

Your are right Balthazar, I did not say "Brand New", Still having my 2004 SRX with V6 and having spruced it up, it is going to my parents who need a solid roomy car for getting around in their old age.

I have actually been look around for an AWD V8 SRX from the first generation as I love their boxy style, room inside and ease of working on them. Very Solid Reliable Luxury auto!

Hard to compare a 300C to a CLA, they are way different in size. That is like comparing an Impress WRX STi to a Chevy SS or Dodge Charger I doubt those are getting shopped too much.

If we are talking used cars at $60k one could get a 3 year old M5 or E63.

Hard to compare a 300C to a CLA, they are way different in size. That is like comparing an Impress WRX STi to a Chevy SS or Dodge Charger I doubt those are getting shopped too much.

If we are talking used cars at $60k one could get a 3 year old M5 or E63.

Would rather own a CTS V as the cost of maintenance, repairs, etc would still be considerably less than either the over priced and over rated M5 or E63. The M3 is superior in many ways to the M5.

Most consumers BY FAR shop with budget as the prime criteria, not overall length.

If we were in an era where cars ranged from 170" to 230", I could see it, but the 16" difference in these two (CLA & 300) is a non-issue.

So an Impress WRX and a Chevy Impala would be competitors? Or the ATS and Lacrosse are competitors? Obviously price is a big criteria, but size and driving characteristics of the car are nearly as important.

The CLA AMG doesn't have a lot of direct competitors, but I do agree at $63k there are many better options new or used. If the CLA45 for $47k base included airmatic and the premium package standard it think it would he a good deal and if the loaded price was more like $55k I could see that. Personally I am not a CLA fan, I don't like the car much, but if an STi or Evo is $40 grand then I can sort of understand the CLA's price.

Not sure also why everyone assumes Mercedes have such high repair costs when they are constantly near the top in 3rd party reliability studies. And look at resale value, a 200k mile Cadillac or Chrysler or Lincoln is worthless, I have seen 10 year old, 200k mile Mercedes selling for $12,000 or more.

The main problem is asking $64K for a FWD-based econocar that starts at $29K! Even at $55K, that's still trying to convince buyers it actually has $25K of additions over the base car- not remotely worth it. It should be $40-45K, right in the STI/Evo range since it's on the same level.

ATS & LaCrosse could be compared, of course, if the prices are comparable (I have not checked). The OEMs don't look at it that way, but you have to face the reality of how these cars are used- the exact same way; slogging thru traffic to the office & the mall.

The theory that people just absolutely cannot look at two cars that are 16" or so apart in OL would be enormous trouble for those marketers that continually spin the concept that buyers "trade up" thru a brand's lineup. If that were true, perhaps the best plan of attack IS to make a 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7-series all within 5 inches of each other.... because going by your position, no one who owned an e-class would EVER consider an s-class.  

The main problem is asking $64K for a FWD-based econocar that starts at $29K! Even at $55K, that's still trying to convince buyers it actually has $25K of additions over the base car- not remotely worth it. It should be $40-45K, right in the STI/Evo range since it's on the same level.

So what about the Cadillac ELR?  That is a $76k FWD econo car.  The CLA is definitely a cut above the STi and Evo, those cars have no luxury features really and basic interiors.  The CLA starts more than $10k above an Impreza, I can easily see a CLA AMG costing $50k, but at $60k I think Mercedes themselves have better options.

The CLA45 does get 23/31 mpg, that is pretty good for a 355 hp car, so I do have to give it credit there.  I have also seen car magazines with the 0-60 time clocked at 4.2 to 4.5 seconds, that is pretty fast.  There aren't many 4 doors pulling 0-60 in the low 4's, so when you think of it that way, it isn't such a rip off.  Still not a car I'd buy though, but there will be a market for it.

ELR is a stunner in & out, but I sure would have liked to see a Tesla-esque performance out of it to justify the price better. It's world's nicer in & out than the CLA, tho, from what I've seen & read. But the tag is too high there, too.

So an Impress WRX and a Chevy Impala would be competitors? Or the ATS and Lacrosse are competitors? Obviously price is a big criteria, but size and driving characteristics of the car are nearly as important.

The CLA AMG doesn't have a lot of direct competitors, but I do agree at $63k there are many better options new or used. If the CLA45 for $47k base included airmatic and the premium package standard it think it would he a good deal and if the loaded price was more like $55k I could see that. Personally I am not a CLA fan, I don't like the car much, but if an STi or Evo is $40 grand then I can sort of understand the CLA's price.

Not sure also why everyone assumes Mercedes have such high repair costs when they are constantly near the top in 3rd party reliability studies. And look at resale value, a 200k mile Cadillac or Chrysler or Lincoln is worthless, I have seen 10 year old, 200k mile Mercedes selling for $12,000 or more.

You must live in a special market as Mercedes and BMW over 100K sell side by side with Chevy, Ford, Buicks. I have not seen them hold higher resell values like what you state.

In regards to repairs, the average tune up on BMW and MB runs 1500 compared to 500 for a cadillac and others. The one thing I hear all the time from coworkers is how much they complain about the cost of maintenance and repairs. When you compare them to Cadillac or even Infiniti and Lexus, BMW and MB are at the top in regards to repairs and maintenance. I have to assume this is one reason they tend to cover all maintenance now for the first 50K miles but then so does cadillac and others.

ELR is a stunner in & out, but I sure would have liked to see a Tesla-esque performance out of it to justify the price better. It's world's nicer in & out than the CLA, tho, from what I've seen & read. But the tag is too high there, too.

I have test drove the ELR along with the VOLT and they are Night and Day different beast and I agree with you the inside is so nice you cannot compare the two. The ELR beats the CLA's hands down as a superior car and superior interior.

Does the ELR go 0-60 in 4.2 seconds?  Superior depends on what you are looking for, if you want performance, the ELR is no good.  If you want a luxury car, then you aren't buying a CLA AMG when you can get an E-class for that money.

I will say the Mercedes dealer charges a lot, but I think a lot of dealers do and the Mercedes dealer always gives you a free loaner car which is nice.  But my car has a 13,000 mile oil change interval, there is spark plug replacement every 100,000 miles and engine coolant every 150,000 miles, and air and fuel filters are the same as any other car, transmission fluid is every 40,000 miles.  Pretty standard stuff and you don't need to go to a dealer for that.

Does anyone do 0-60 in 4.3 seconds in regular driving? When that becomes relevant to sales I guess that will be the ELR's issue... but in the meantime I think its poor sales performance has more to do with the fact that it is a $79000 coupe.

Ya, 6-series is that kind of change and it has very low sales, too.

Excuses, Excuses, Excuses!

No matter how it is twisted there is no excuse for a $64,000 Cruze/Focus competitor.

The CLA45 is a Cruze/Focus competitor?  It is faster than a CTS V-sport.  Last I checked the Cruze couldn't do 0-60 in 4.2 seconds, and the CLA interior is a lot nicer than a Focus.  The CLA45 is probably the only car on the market that has over 350 hp, does 0-60 in under 4.5 seconds and gets over 30 mpg.  Off the top of my head I can't think of any other car that can claim that, especially not a sedan.  I think $64k is too much for one, but I think $70,000 for a Tahoe is too much, and $42,000 for a Nissan Maxima is too much; there are a lot of over priced cars out there.

The CLA45 is a Cruze/Focus competitor?  It is faster than a CTS V-sport.  Last I checked the Cruze couldn't do 0-60 in 4.2 seconds, and the CLA interior is a lot nicer than a Focus.  The CLA45 is probably the only car on the market that has over 350 hp, does 0-60 in under 4.5 seconds and gets over 30 mpg.  Off the top of my head I can't think of any other car that can claim that, especially not a sedan.  I think $64k is too much for one, but I think $70,000 for a Tahoe is too much, and $42,000 for a Nissan Maxima is too much; there are a lot of over priced cars out there.

WHO THE F CARES!?!

Z06 claimed the CLA was competing with the Cruze, clearly it is not. 

Z06 claimed the CLA was competing with the Cruze, clearly it is not. 

Actually it really can, I find the Cruze TDI to be every bit equal if not better in some ways to this over blown CLA. Considering what I get for the base price of this CLA, The Cruse is a superior auto. This is a car that is not worth the MSRP let along $45K. 4 banger FWD appliance for a over priced luxury Badge is just pathetic.

As you have said, for half this price I could get a far better MB than this car or just buy 3 Cruzes for the family compared to this bloated over priced Bovine.

Z06 claimed the CLA was competing with the Cruze, clearly it is not. 

How is it not when:

• The dimensions are within that of small cars'.
• It is based on a FWD platform as small cars'.
• Quality of materials is same as small cars'.
• Intent of making volumes is similar to that of manufacturers of small cars.
• Chances of owners taking it to a race track (0.0) are similar to that of small cars', given how it handles like a pig (see below).

Like the small cars, it is nothing but a point A to point B transportation by Chevroletdes Benz, that is fitted with a tarted up engine and carries an astronomical price tag. There are better fun-to-drive pocket rocket options for less than half the price and 130% more the time to 60 than this highway robbery attempt. Non badge-snobs will sacrifice that 30% additional time to save over $30k.

 

Yet as competent as it is, the Mercedes-Benz CLA45 AMG feels sterile when hustled on track or road. It lacks the punch of an Evo and the sensitivity of a BMW 1-series. More disturbing, the CLA45 doesn’t have the reckless streak of other AMG models. Mercedes has made 355 horsepower and 332 pound-feet of torque in a car roughly the size of a VW Jetta feel downright civilized.

Mercedes has for sure lost me on this one!

At $65k, the CTS V-Sport is a much better place to spend your time... and it doesn't look like a hump-back whale.

I too would take a CTS v-sport over a CLA, but I'd take an E-class or 2015 C400 or perhaps a Jaguar over the CTS. I'd probably take a 535d or 335d over the CLA and I don't really like BMWs that much. Doesn't make the CLA45 an awful car though, it is still fast and gets over 30 mpg.

So does a 300C.

An AWD Chrysler 300C with a Hemi gets 15/23 mpg, not exactly fuel efficient.

Not exactly small either.

Plus, Chrysler no longer uses C as a designator for V8-equipped.  The AWD 300C V6 returns 18/27.

I noticed that the 300C now has a base V6, sort of defeats the purpose of what the "C" badge was for.

An AWD Chrysler 300C with a Hemi gets 15/23 mpg, not exactly fuel efficient.

I've been at 31 highway in a RWD Hemi and 36 in an 8-speed V6 RWD, 35 highway in a 5-speed RWD Charger, and 33 in a 5-speed RWD Challenger.

The LX cars have always substantially outperformed their EPA rating.

I had a 300 rental with the Pentastar last year, it averaged like 22 mpg.   Cheaply made car too.

 

An AWD Chrysler 300C with a Hemi gets 15/23 mpg, not exactly fuel efficient.

 

I've been at 31 highway in a RWD Hemi and 36 in an 8-speed V6 RWD, 35 highway in a 5-speed RWD Charger, and 33 in a 5-speed RWD Challenger.

 

The LX cars have always substantially outperformed their EPA rating.

 

I had a 300 rental with the Pentastar last year, it averaged like 22 mpg.   Cheaply made car too.

Gotta love anecdata...

I had a 300 rental with the Pentastar last year, it averaged like 22 mpg. Cheaply made car too.

Highway? Did you leave the parking brake on?

 

I had a 300 rental with the Pentastar last year, it averaged like 22 mpg. Cheaply made car too.

Highway? Did you leave the parking brake on?

 

Not on highway, suburban type driving.  I am sure a lot of cars can beat the EPA highway estimate if you really try to, but in everyday driving they aren't going to post a number like that.  If a CLA45 is rated at 31 mpg highway I am sure people could get over 35 in it also.  There is no way a 5.7 liter V8 4,000 lb car is going to get better mileage than a 2.0 liter 3400 lb car, it is simple physics.

That particular 5.7 V8 is a 4-cylinder at highway speeds.

^ In other words; a 2.8L.