Quick Drive: 2014 Cadillac XTS VSport Premium

Nice Write up. This makes me wonder if I can get the other coding of the chips so that I can gain back my HP and Torque in this car. That would be a great upgrade. Get the Full power of this via a chip tuner device.

It may have been de-tuned so as not to overload the AWD system and not have too much torque steer at the front wheels.

I thought the AWD system was the same between the CTS and XTS. Anyone know if this is true?

It may have been de-tuned so as not to overload the AWD system and not have too much torque steer at the front wheels.

In the XTS, it was detuned because the engine is turned 90 degrees and there is an exhaust restriction.... it's only 10 HP.  The Halex system can send something like 90% of the torque to the rear if need be, so I doubt it has anything to do with torque steer.

I thought the AWD system was the same between the CTS and XTS. Anyone know if this is true?

The CTS V-Sport is RWD only... though in the AWD models with lesser engines, it would be a different transmission and AWD system.

 

It may have been de-tuned so as not to overload the AWD system and not have too much torque steer at the front wheels.

 

In the XTS, it was detuned because the engine is turned 90 degrees and there is an exhaust restriction.... it's only 10 HP.  The Halex system can send something like 90% of the torque to the rear if need be, so I doubt it has anything to do with torque steer.

 

I thought the AWD system was the same between the CTS and XTS. Anyone know if this is true?

 

The CTS V-Sport is RWD only... though in the AWD models with lesser engines, it would be a different transmission and AWD system.

 

Much appreciate the clarification Drew. Thank you

I don't get why anyone would buy this over a CTS V-sport?  If you want performance you are going to want the CTS, if you don't want performance and like the XTS then 300 hp is probably plenty for that type of buyer.   I bet these will be a rare breed.

AWD

They could just make AWD optional on the CTS V-sport, they could make it optional on the CTS-V even.  But I supposed they have to justify the XTS's existence some how.

CTS-V Sport & XTS-V Sport are 2 different vehicles; individual preference is given 2 choices here. No mystery.

I don't get why anyone would buy this over a CTS V-sport?  If you want performance you are going to want the CTS, if you don't want performance and like the XTS then 300 hp is probably plenty for that type of buyer.   I bet these will be a rare breed.

Room, comfort and trunk space come directly to mind. The CTS is a bit cramped inside, especially the back seat.

 

I don't get why anyone would buy this over a CTS V-sport?  If you want performance you are going to want the CTS, if you don't want performance and like the XTS then 300 hp is probably plenty for that type of buyer.   I bet these will be a rare breed.

Room, comfort and trunk space come directly to mind. The CTS is a bit cramped inside, especially the back seat.

 

Size and space all depends on the size of the people. On my wife's side which is Korean, both the CTS and XTS are huge and have plenty of space and then you have their size which for the family is on average 5' tall. Yet on my side of the family, the average person is 6' tall a foot taller and makes a big difference. Course  both auto's while nice are just too small for my 6'6" tall frame and I used to own a CTS.

I'd prefer the XTS myself.  I like the softer ride at the touch of a button.

My Father Loves the XTS also but he likes the soft float rides so there is a group who prefers these auto's still.

I would never snub my nose at driving either one if given to me.

Best interior for the price and 32.2 mpg on multiple hour drives with Adaptive Cruise Control set at 65 mph....with AWD! I can't say enough how nice it is to drive this can I bought used used XTS Vsport Platinum with 40,000+ miles on it. Not only does it drive nice but it turns heads at every corner.

It may have been de-tuned so as not to overload the AWD system and not have too much torque steer at the front wheels.

The more likely culprit is the torque rating on the transaxle. You could chip one back to RWD specs, but you may wind up with shrapnel and red goo in your driveway after a while.

Nice Write up. This makes me wonder if I can get the other coding of the chips so that I can gain back my HP and Torque in this car. That would be a great upgrade. Get the Full power of this via a chip tuner device.

You can get that back and then some. Tuning my 2014 XTs VSport Platinum with HPTuners we went from bthe stock 369 lb-ftb of torque to 530+! It is beast! It spins the front tires on kickbdown from 50-70 mph. And fuel economy is just as good stock with 32+ mpg at 65 mph.

I don't get why anyone would buy this over a CTS V-sport?  If you want performance you are going to want the CTS, if you don't want performance and like the XTS then 300 hp is probably plenty for that type of buyer.   I bet these will be a rare breed.

The XTS VSport offers more of everything luxury that the CTS offers, plus a couple pound weight penalty. I think the Platinum XTS has even more like fully Opus leather wrap seats, leather on the doors and dash. It is a little heavy but the hydraulic steering(instead of electric) and AWD with torque vectoring makes the big beast claw in the turns. MRC shocks are peachy in the way they adjust. They can be a bit firm on rough roads but have no problem an keeping the tires planted over frost heaves and big cracks. Besides the great electronics including CUE, which I love, the looks are what no one second guesses.

It may have been de-tuned so as not to overload the AWD system and not have too much torque steer at the front wheels.

The more likely culprit is the torque rating on the transaxle. You could chip one back to RWD specs, but you may wind up with shrapnel and red goo in your driveway after a while.

Not sure why this got a downvote. I used to work for GM and I know that they pushed the torque ratings on their transaxles pretty hard.

I thought the AWD system was the same between the CTS and XTS. Anyone know if this is true?

I believe it is, but U must keep in mind that the AWD system in the CTS is mated to the regular LFX engine with 320HP. That being said.. the NEW AWD system debuting in the CT6 would not have required a de-tuning of the engine as it is capable of handling up to 958 lbs of torque

 

 

It may have been de-tuned so as not to overload the AWD system and not have too much torque steer at the front wheels.

The more likely culprit is the torque rating on the transaxle. You could chip one back to RWD specs, but you may wind up with shrapnel and red goo in your driveway after a while.

Not sure why this got a downvote. I used to work for GM and I know that they pushed the torque ratings on their transaxles pretty hard.

 

Fixed.

You are 100% correct. The XTS transmission is based on the 6T75, which itself was only rated for 300 lb-ft of torque. They were only able to upgrade the internals enough for the decreased tune they put on the 3.6T. I'm not sure I would feel comfortable tuning an XTS Vsport, it would almost certainly put unwelcome stress on the trans.

The XTS uses a haldex system, I don't believe the CTS uses that.

Ya, I suspect the drivelines are wildly different in both layout and specs. Anyone looking to chip an XTS should really look at beefing up the transaxle first IMO.

Sure would be a nice driveline for an Impala in a year or two tho

The XTS uses a haldex system, I don't believe the CTS uses that.

I'm pretty sure haldex AWD is exclusive to FWD-based vehicles. The whole point of it is to simulate the performance advantages of RWD with torque vectoring.The CTS doesn't need it. Also, the CTS Vsport that shares the 3.6T engine doesn't currently offer AWD at all.

 

The XTS uses a haldex system, I don't believe the CTS uses that.

 

I'm pretty sure haldex AWD is exclusive to FWD-based vehicles. The whole point of it is to simulate the performance advantages of RWD with torque vectoring.The CTS doesn't need it. Also, the CTS Vsport that shares the 3.6T engine doesn't currently offer AWD at all.

 

I'm almost certain that you're right that Haldex is exclusive to FWD based vehicles.   But Haldex is a company name brand, they could conceivably produce AWD systems for RWD cars as well. 

The XTS uses a haldex system, I don't believe the CTS uses that.

Haldex systems are for front drive, or at least AWD systems that normally run FWD.  There is an episode of Autoline after hours with one of the lead engineers at VW and he explained how the Haldex system works and that is what is on the VW models, and the Audi A3 and Q3.  On those cars it is like 90% front drive unless the wheels slip, he said the differentials would overheat if they ran rear drive, they can only do it for short periods.  The Audi A4/A6/A8 use a totally different system that runs more rear bias.  CTS has to use something different than haldex, something that can run 55% or more rear bias.

The CT6 AWD system is RWD applied regardless. 

 

The XTS uses a haldex system, I don't believe the CTS uses that.

Haldex systems are for front drive, or at least AWD systems that normally run FWD.  There is an episode of Autoline after hours with one of the lead engineers at VW and he explained how the Haldex system works and that is what is on the VW models, and the Audi A3 and Q3.  On those cars it is like 90% front drive unless the wheels slip, he said the differentials would overheat if they ran rear drive, they can only do it for short periods.  The Audi A4/A6/A8 use a totally different system that runs more rear bias.  CTS has to use something different than haldex, something that can run 55% or more rear bias.

 

While GM sold off it's interest in Subaru, I thought they kept the rights to use the Subaru AWD system in their auto's?