Ask Me Anything: 2020 Hyundai Palisade AWD

4 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Palisade I think.  Palisade has a smoother ride, just as much power, and a better finished interior... plus a lot more tech for the price. 

I'm quickly used to the gear selector in the Palisade. I find it especially easier when doing a 5 point turn like I need to when getting the thing out of my driveway.  The only reason to go to the Enclave over this is raw cubic feet.  If you need the extra space, the GM twins or the Pilot are there.  But as a luxury vehicle, this out-Enclaves the Enclave. 

I think driving both the XT6 or even another luxury make/model back to back with this Palisade would be the best way to compare them. Were they both low profile tires with 20" or 22" inch wheels? If both were loaded with all options you'd definitely get more from a luxury make and model than a Hyundai including the dealership experience, that's why they are a luxury car/CUV because of what you get for your money.  

8 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

Trailblazer, *cough Nissan Sidekick cough*. 
 

I do find it funny that you think you speak for people when you say “most”. Kind of like how you have spoken for me by calling me a fanboy of five different brands in the last two months? 

Pot calling Kettle...

Go back and read the post about the G90 and how pretty much every comment was "looks like an Acura" or "Audi" or "Volvo". You even joined in because it was the consensus that it's a knockoff.

7 minutes ago, USA-1 said:

I think driving both the XT6 or even another luxury make/model back to back with this Palisade would be the best way to compare them. Were they both low profile tires with 20" or 22" inch wheels? If both were loaded with all options you'd definitely get more from a luxury make and model than a Hyundai including the dealership experience, that's why they are a luxury car/CUV because of what you get.  

With a starting price that is $20K higher than the Hyundai, it better be $20K better than it but the fact that the Hyundai can even be mentioned along side the Cadillac seems to contradict that assessment. No amount of “dealership experience” makes for that either especially if one has actually had a Cadillac dealership experience worth that kind of coin. 
 

It reminds me of the comparison made between the Vette and cars like the 911. Sure, the Vette competes with it (and then some) but is a Chevrolet dealership experience anywhere close to a Porsche dealership experience? Is the build even comparable? 

On 11/28/2019 at 12:02 AM, smk4565 said:

Hyundai reliability

3 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

With a starting price that is $20K higher than the Hyundai, it better be $20K better than it but the fact that the Hyundai can even be mentioned along side the Cadillac seems to contradict that assessment. No amount of “dealership experience” makes for that either especially if one has actually had a Cadillac dealership experience worth that kind of coin. 
 

It reminds me of the comparison made between the Vette and cars like the 911. Sure, the Vette competes with it (and then some) but is a Chevrolet dealership experience anywhere close to a Porsche dealership experience? Is the build even comparable? 

You keep missing the fact that it's Hyundai trying to copy the design cues of Cadillac not the other way around, which is the only reason Cadillac was brought up in the discussion. 

Yep, $20K is about the premium you'd pay for a Cadillac compared to a Chevrolet or Lincoln to a Ford or Lexus to a Toyota. Good job, Gold Star for the day.

How about sticking to the subject instead of changing it to fit your diatribe of whiny BS..."Oh I want everyone to think the Korean cars are awesome and anyone that thinks different well they're a fanboy and I'm going to tell them"...what a joke.   

I've owned luxury and non luxury makes and models so I know first hand what I'm talking about with the whole experience...do you?  If not, then do yourself a favor... 

Anywho (because this nonsense has gone on long enough and one brand brick walls never learn), the Pallisade shows that Hyundai has no problem blurring the lines between mainstream and premium (borderline luxury) CUVs. Ten yearS ago, no one would have given them time of day much less have them being compared to much pricier brands like Cadillac. It has taken a page out of the Corvette playbook and shown that it will gladly play out of its weight class (or price class in this case) and do it fairly well even if one brand fanboys refuse to see it. As long as It’s reliability is at or above par (Hyundai and Kia have been above par overall the last few years), it will be a solid seller for Hyundai. Read into that what you will. Call me a “Korean fanboy”, like an idiot, if you will. It doesn’t change any of the facts here. 

Certain posts should just be blocked and deleted from these threads...completely useless, unrelated, and bizarre.

Stay on point. And in the meantime, watch THIS. Truly one of the best "wow" overviews, audio, sounds, etc. from a day in the life of a Palisade:

https://youtu.be/o_-V08gVnKU

18 hours ago, caddycruiser said:

And there you have it...precisely. Great real review.

While everyone here continues to talk in circles about "stolen styling cues", they miss the point...these utes out-Enclave the Enclave. One of many examples. Credit where its due.

Such a competitive 7 seater market. All the better for every buyer, as long as they keep brand blinders off, and just try everything. "I'm better...no you're not...yes I am" segment worth test driving all.

 

Question...I've forgotten from my travels, and rentals. Does Hyundai/Kia side blind spot alert actually beep?

On, and you signal, beep that is. Still baffling why that's so different brand to brand.

Cross traffic monitor definitely beeps and it buzzes the steering wheel.  I haven't had the chance to check the blind spot monitoring for you. 

I've cleaned up this topic of the trolling posts.  The rules here are simple... talk about cars, not about each other.  Further breaking of that rule will lead to warning points being issued and possible suspensions. 

41 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Cross traffic monitor definitely beeps and it buzzes the steering wheel.

That's an automatic disqualification in my rule book.

Just now, balthazar said:

That's an automatic disqualification in my rule book.

You can shut most of them off. My past luxury coupe had the full safety alert pkg., rear cross traffic alert tone and buzzing seat cushion, buzzing seat for lane departure and slowing traffic ahead too, emergency braking with buzzing seat, flashing light in windshield and alert tone all very annoying. I shut everything off except the Adaptive Cruise Control it was a very cool feature when on the highway.

31 minutes ago, balthazar said:

That's an automatic disqualification in my rule book.

A lot of that stuff is coming standard now. 

'Shutting them off' is going to depend on the corporation and perhaps the model- commonplace on non-mandated features.
And at some point in the near future they will all be mandated. That's where I'm out.

18 hours ago, balthazar said:

'Shutting them off' is going to depend on the corporation and perhaps the model- commonplace on non-mandated features.
And at some point in the near future they will all be mandated. That's where I'm out.

Just stating that you have the option to shut them off now. DOT probably won't mandate anything that actually takes over the car for several more years.

2 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Cross traffic monitor definitely beeps and it buzzes the steering wheel.  I haven't had the chance to check the blind spot monitoring for you. 

Good to know. It's highly bizarre and strange that GM, Ford, etc. think blind spot monitoring should consist of tiny, barely visible amber dots, that do nothing...and make no alert.

Yet, other normal brands are visible and if on, and you still signal "beep beep beep" as they should, to prevent side issues. My Hyundai rentals have all been lower end without many options so I've never tried them...

Thanks.

Hey guys, look, it's an article and questions about the Palisade...

How about focusing on the Palisade and staying there?

After watching the driving review of this above on YouTube, definitely get it. Quick, quiet, smooth, effortless, features all over, and that shifter & console is actually well done. Really like the wide screen with CarPlay as well.

Makes many other choices in these classes seem plebian and 3rd world. Competition is GREAT.

Great choice. The pricing on these is truly impressive, and I'm glad Hyundai/Kia realized that, and continue to have both demand and "I'll pay MSRP, as even that's a great deal" from the public.

33 minutes ago, caddycruiser said:

Good to know. It's highly bizarre and strange that GM, Ford, etc. think blind spot monitoring should consist of tiny, barely visible amber dots, that do nothing...and make no alert.

Yet, other normal brands are visible and if on, and you still signal "beep beep beep" as they should, to prevent side issues. My Hyundai rentals have all been lower end without many options so I've never tried them...

Thanks.

A few Hyundai YouTube videos describe as I would expect. Lights on if active, and beep beep if active and you still signal. Good, the way it should be:

1 hour ago, balthazar said:

'Shutting them off' is going to depend on the corporation and perhaps the model- commonplace on non-mandated features.
And at some point in the near future they will all be mandated. That's where I'm out.

Wonder if ya can do like the early 70's when seat belt buzzers first were put in, you just unplugged the sensor in the bottom of the seat so it never buzzed when someone got in and did not connect the seat belt.

I pulled the 'key-in' buzzer out of my '94.
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I assume the 'turn off' feature of these must be activated upon each & every start of the vehicle (default: 'ON'). I'd have to know a fuse could be pulled.

21 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

Im grateful that evolution or God, it dont matter to me which God or what evolution, make my head go more or less 180 degrees  from side to side and my eyes have a very wide peripheral  vision while having quite decent depth perception and a very multi-functional brain  to figure out my own blind spot/lane changing things.  

Good old trusty mirrors, 3 I might add, do the rest. 

Keep in mind, one vehicle I learned to drive in, was one of these...

Regular wheelbase, 2 biggish side mirrors, 1 windshield mirror and only 2 windows waaaaaaay in the back there to figure it all out...   

As humans as of late, in the last decade or so, we DEFINITELY use our brains and common sense less and less. We rely tooooooooo much on these dumb a$$ electronic gizmos...

I remember a time when the dumb GPS told us to turn left now, and dumbazzes turned left NOW and either hit buildings or fell off cliffs or even went as far as entering other countries and got lost...using GPS...got lost using GPS directions...

I cant for the life of me comprehend such nonsense, this whole need to rely on electronics for our personal safety.

Our ancestors used their wits, eyes, sight, smell and BRAINS to get out of trouble...we need beeps and bongs from a gadget made in China  ?  with cheap,shytty, shoddy phoqing parts...?   ?

Im getting sick to my stomach with this shyte!!! ?

 

And here, again, we're off topic...

Back...to...the...Palisade...

I don't care for the Palisade.  I like the Telluride more.  Less fluff, puff and stuff.  Who wants a grille that looks like a Greek temple anyhow?  And that rotary shifter... don't care for it on Mopars or Fords, so no, I don't like it here either.

29 minutes ago, caddycruiser said:

And here, again, we're off topic...

Back...to...the...Palisade...

Just some banter there dude.

5 hours ago, caddycruiser said:

Good to know. It's highly bizarre and strange that GM, Ford, etc. think blind spot monitoring should consist of tiny, barely visible amber dots, that do nothing...and make no alert.

I believe you veered off that path before I did, dude.  Im just offering  my 2 cents on that there post.

Its up to you to cash in on it or just throw it out...  Do what you please with it.  I really dont care...

BUT...when is life just one straight path?  It is not!!!  Life would be boring if it be just straight on top of all that.

Enjoy life's little curves, hills and slopes dude.  And my post did not harm you or the community in any way either...

43 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

I don't care for the Palisade.  I like the Telluride more.  Less fluff, puff and stuff.  Who wants a grille that looks like a Greek temple anyhow?  And that rotary shifter... don't care for it on Mopars or Fords, so no, I don't like it here either.

We should all worship at a Greek temple me thinks...

Sacrifice a baby lamb in the name of Zeus, we all eat and drink like Gods and philosophise the night away, wirhout a care in the world.  Unless of course those pesky Persians are knocking at our doorstep, we get in ourHyundai Palisade and mow them down!!!

Wait...maybe a different scenario...

We get into our Dodge Challengers and tell those Brits to PHOQUE OFF!!!  

AMERICA!  HELL YEAH!!!

@caddycruiser

I  mentioned the Palisade.  You happy?   

PS:  You could talk about the Palisade. Ill cash in your 2 cents. Or maybe not. 

But doncha think its a little more fun the way I do it?

I mean,  WTF is soooooo exciting about a Palisade that you want me to discuss?

You want me to wax poetic about a generic all too common CUV?

Somebody discussed electronic safety shyt.

I, in turn, wanted to make sure we, as a society, stop with this nonsense with the fear of us needing electronic shyt thrown our way.  We got a brain,  lets start using it!!!  For real!!!

I don't mind the electronic safety gadgets.. had them in a couple rental cars..was neat the way the seat vibrated in a Tahoe when I went over the center line on a winding AZ road a few years ago.    My current Jeep doesn't have them, but my next undoubtably will...progress.

Not everything is ‘progress’ tho.

Its more like regress.

Its masking the real problem, which is inadequate driving skills of many drivers on the road today.

It also enables laziness with others.  

When we drive, we are supposed to focus ALL our attention to our driving and everything that entails and purtaining to driving.  We are now breeding and tolerating complacency with these gadgets...

Tesla autopilot...

Yes...this is to the most extreme possible argument regarding electronic safety shyts...

But that is the thing...

All these gadgets are supposed to be AIDES....to HELP us be better...NOT to RELY SOLELY on them...

Its come to the point where MARKETING these things is that these things SHOULD replace OUR SENSES, OUR EYES, EARS and even our BRAIN...

STUPID!!!!

5 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

I  mentioned the Palisade.  You happy?  

I mean,  WTF is soooooo exciting about a Palisade that you want me to discuss?

You want me to wax poetic about a generic all too common CUV?

Nothing is exciting about the Palisade at all. Just got back from the Phoenix International Auto Show with a couple of buddy's. All of us thought it's just the usual Hyundai they've always been. Non of us saw anything new or improved to write home about and most of it looked and felt pretty cheap, door handles, seats, interior pieces etc...

The old saying "You get what you pay for" will always ring true!

6 hours ago, ocnblu said:

I don't care for the Palisade.  I like the Telluride more.  Less fluff, puff and stuff.  Who wants a grille that looks like a Greek temple anyhow?  And that rotary shifter... don't care for it on Mopars or Fords, so no, I don't like it here either.

Neither. Just saw them both in person. Just cheap knockoffs.

Can't stand rotary shifter's either same with the push button shifters. I was just talking with my buddies about them at the PHX Auto Show. You don't get that positively in gear feeling like you do with a physical shifter (column or console) tied directly to the transmission with actual shift cable linkage.

How ridic would it be if you need to rock your vehicle in deep snow, mud or sand to try to get unstuck?  Imagine twirling that little dial back and forth as fast as your brawny wrist could twirl it, what a nightmare, especially with the lame-ass electronic delay built into it.  I think it would hold its breath and turn blue.  SAD.

13 hours ago, ocnblu said:

I don't care for the Palisade.  I like the Telluride more.  Less fluff, puff and stuff.  Who wants a grille that looks like a Greek temple anyhow?  And that rotary shifter... don't care for it on Mopars or Fords, so no, I don't like it here either.

What "rotary"?   The Rotary dial is not the shifter, it's the drive mode selector.  Set it to comfort or snow, but otherwise leave it alone. 

@Drew Dowdell-What are your thoughts on the fit and finish of the Palisade? Does it feel cheap or otherwise have a “plasticky” feeling about it? 

1 minute ago, surreal1272 said:

@Drew Dowdell-What are your thoughts on the fit and finish of the Pallisade? Does it feel cheap or otherwise have a “plasticky” feeling about it? 

It's very well done.  Very little of the surfaces I would consider cheap plastic. The buttons and other switchgear all have a nice weighted feel to them. It really is well done inside. 

6 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

It's very well done.  Very little of the surfaces I would consider cheap plastic. The buttons and other switchgear all have a nice weighted feel to them. It really is well done inside. 

That’s what I’ve been gathering via several mainstream publication reviews. I was surprised they didn’t point out anything being “cheap”. They did however comment that the interiors were toe to toe with Buick and Acura and even said that the interior was nicer than some luxury vehicles. I know that the Koreans have caught a lot of flak (and deservedly so at times) over the years but this is a different time and those who cling to their past bias as ammunition for today are not paying close enough attention to what is actually being offered. Ten years ago, I wouldn’t touch anything out that country but they have stepped up their game and when they have models being compared to brands like Cadillac, then clearly they are doing something right whether some folks want to admit it or not. 

1 minute ago, surreal1272 said:

That’s what I’ve been gathering via several mainstream publication reviews. I was surprised they didn’t point out anything being “cheap”. They did however comment that the interiors were toe to toe with Buick and Acura and even said that the interior was nicer than some luxury vehicles. I know that the Koreans have caught a lot of flak (and deservedly so at times) over the years but this is a different time and those who cling to their past bias as ammunition for today are not paying close enough attention to what is actually being offered. Ten years ago, I wouldn’t touch anything out that country but they have stepped up their game and when they have models being compared to brands like Cadillac, then clearly they are doing something right whether some folks want to admit it or not. 

The latest generation of vehicles from Korea, in the upper tiers, may be the first to really deserve that kind of praise.  The K900, the Telluride, the Palisade, the G70/80/90 are all substantially better than prior attempts. I'm betting the Genesis GV80 SUV will deservedly get accolades as well. 

Like I said earlier, could they get away with a Genesis version of the Palisade? Probably, but they're doing a whole different platform for it. 

11 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

The latest generation of vehicles from Korea, in the upper tiers, may be the first to really deserve that kind of praise.  The K900, the Telluride, the Palisade, the G70/80/90 are all substantially better than prior attempts. I'm betting the Genesis GV80 SUV will deservedly get accolades as well. 

Like I said earlier, could they get away with a Genesis version of the Palisade? Probably, but they're doing a whole different platform for it. 

Agree about Genesis (Save for the ugo looks of that G90 front end). There should have already been a CUV from them but if they can up the game and truly separate it from the Palisade, they will have a winner. Going with a different platform will certainly help their cause on that. Otherwise it would just look like a cheap rebadge. 

On 11/29/2019 at 2:25 PM, USA-1 said:

Yes, Omega was going to underpin the XT6. Most likely worried about cannibalizing the Escalade sales, especially with a new one being released mid to late next year.

It isn't about cannibalizing sales. It was about saving money. 

https://www.motortrend.com/news/new-cadillac-escalade-ct5-v-no-blackwing-v8/

On 11/30/2019 at 12:20 PM, Drew Dowdell said:

Palisade I think.  Palisade has a smoother ride, just as much power, and a better finished interior... plus a lot more tech for the price. 

It's amazing how far those two companies have come(Hyundai/Kia). It says a lot coming from somebody who drives as many things as you do. 

On 11/30/2019 at 1:24 PM, surreal1272 said:

Also yes. Regarding the display, yes it is similar to Benz but if they would have done like everyone and slapped on a gigantic iPad in the center, they would been copying dozens. You can’t win either way. These days they are no more guilty of copying someone than any other make.

THANK YOU! 

I think you and @balthazar are the only ones that seem to understand this. 

20 hours ago, caddycruiser said:

Good to know. It's highly bizarre and strange that GM, Ford, etc. think blind spot monitoring should consist of tiny, barely visible amber dots, that do nothing...and make no alert.

Yet, other normal brands are visible and if on, and you still signal "beep beep beep" as they should, to prevent side issues. My Hyundai rentals have all been lower end without many options so I've never tried them...

I think a light on the side mirror is plenty adequate. I don't want my car beeping or flashing on the dash every time I pass somebody or somebody passes me. 

4 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

THANK YOU! 

I think you and @balthazar are the only ones that seem to understand this. 

Balth made the best point about it a while back. All the current regulations have led to very much homogenous designs so there are bound to be similarities across the board from one model to the next. I’m less concerned with who is riffing who and more concerned with whether it’s a good a reliable product that will meet my needs. 

15 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

It isn't about cannibalizing sales. It was about saving money. 

https://www.motortrend.com/news/new-cadillac-escalade-ct5-v-no-blackwing-v8/

That’s supposition, not official information.

17 hours ago, balthazar said:

I pulled the 'key-in' buzzer out of my '94.
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I assume the 'turn off' feature of these must be activated upon each & every start of the vehicle (default: 'ON'). I'd have to know a fuse could be pulled.

You don't need to turn off my backup sensors every time in my Lincoln. If you opt to turn them off, they're off until you turn them back on. 

The lane keeping and auto braking stuff was the same in the MKX I drove for a couple days, turn it off and it stays off until you turn them back on. 

@Drew Dowdell, are there any brands that you can think of that auto-turn back on every time the vehicle is started? 

15 hours ago, caddycruiser said:

And here, again, we're off topic...

Back...to...the...Palisade...

If you only want to hear about the one vehicle in question, threads would barely be a page long, if you can't compare it to anything. It'd be boring as F. 

3 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

You don't need to turn off my backup sensors every time in my Lincoln. If you opt to turn them off, they're off until you turn them back on. 

The lane keeping and auto braking stuff was the same in the MKX I drove for a couple days, turn it off and it stays off until you turn them back on. 

@Drew Dowdell, are there any brands that you can think of that auto-turn back on every time the vehicle is started? 

No, I don't think I've experienced that.  Once they're off, they stay off.  @William Maley ?

That would be the most user-friendly if they stayed off. I thought I read some models you had to manually turn off ‘start/stop’ everytime. Just saw a ‘work around’ video to the ‘16 Malibu’s S-S: put the car in manual mode, 6th gear and it’s disabled... but that’s an everytime manual operation.

11 minutes ago, balthazar said:

That’s supposition, not official information.

That is true but it "supposedly" came from somebody at GM("Senior GM source") . 

1 hour ago, ccap41 said:

I think a light on the side mirror is plenty adequate. I don't want my car beeping or flashing on the dash every time I pass somebody or somebody passes me. 

Until you've actually experienced a real blind spot system, you wouldn't understand.

A tiny, barely visible light amber colored spec that blends in and you have to stare at the far corner of the mirror to see it, then does no other alert, avoids the purpose.

Driving requires mirrors. But blind spots happen and an actually visible/audible alert helps, without making a sound unless you're doing something you shouldn't be. Was a top complaint from our 2016 Traverse for years, and rentals I've driven from some brands.

3 minutes ago, caddycruiser said:

Until you've actually experienced a real blind spot system, you wouldn't understand.

A tiny, barely visible light amber colored spec that blends in and you have to stare at the far corner of the mirror to see it, then does no other alert, avoids the purpose.

Driving requires mirrors. But blind spots happen and an actually visible/audible alert helps, without making a sound unless you're doing something you shouldn't be. Was a top complaint from our 2016 Traverse for years, and rentals I've driven from some brands.

If I'm driving in a straight line and my car is going off with alerts every time somebody passes me or I pass somebody on the interstate, I'm turning that crap off. That sounds annoying. 

I'm perfectly okay with the little amber light in the corner of a side mirror as I'm turning my head anyway. 

Have to say the profiles are nice on these twins. I myself like the more upright Palisade rear, but the sporty looking stance of the Telluride.

From the Front, I have ended up vacillating back n forth between them both. They are both nice looking depending on my mood.

Like the look of the Telluride from the back over the Palisade.

Interesting looking at the competition of these CUVs.

9 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Have to say the profiles are nice on these twins.

Seen in person? Sat in? I have. Both very polarizing to look at. Cheapness everywhere. You get what you pay for.

Honda's CUV's although reliable and well built are getting stale.

Toyota is bland Toyota.

Subaru...boring.

The brand new 2020 Exploder I sat in already had a broken center console hatch latch that wouldn't close. Broken spring clip when I looked at it to see what was up. "Built Ford Proud". ?

Drew sat in and drove one yet doesn’t share the same gripes as certain folks here. Three other reviews by major publications echo the same sentiments as Drew. Interesting. 
 

Confirmation is bias is, indeed, a real thing. 

Review after review, from people who have actually driven and spent time in them, has been overwhelmingly positive. Kudos to Hyundai and Kia for not making them look like rebadge jobs like Ford and GM did so many times back in the day.