Tesla's Fast Production Hurts Quality

Musk thinks he can apply open source software fixes to hardware being auto's. THIS is a FAILURE. Hardware has Alpha and Beta testing for a reason, so you can have near perfect auto's come off the assembly line. On top of this not mentioned is Musk desire for JIT manufacturing when his company does not have the experience to do JIT assembly.

Musk can make money and build a long lasting company by taking a couple steps backwards to get 5000 cars a week forward in production. As they say in racing, Slower and consistent is faster than balls to the wall scary driving.

Pay NO ATTENTION to the man behind the curtain. 

It is an American car company.  Given my political feelings about the country, they can go bankrupt tomorrow and shut their doors by noon.

2 hours ago, A Horse With No Name said:

It is an American car company.  Given my political feelings about the country, they can go bankrupt tomorrow and shut their doors by noon.

How about this modest proposal: Toyota buys them out and fixes their myriad issues instead.

1 hour ago, riviera74 said:

How about this modest proposal: Toyota buys them out and fixes their myriad issues instead.

Ick...I'd rather see an American company buy them.  

3 hours ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

Ick...I'd rather see an American company buy them.  

That is understandable, but who has the expertise to actually fix their production problems?  Toyota is arguably the best choice, even though they are Japanese.

19 minutes ago, riviera74 said:

That is understandable, but who has the expertise to actually fix their production problems?  Toyota is arguably the best choice, even though they are Japanese.

True enough..they know large scale production... I would hope anyone that bought them would keep the identity, not blandify or mainstream them into regular brands..

General Motors and FoMoCo know something about mass production too...

I certainly dont want Toyota to touch Tesla.

Whether we like Musk or not, he instills a certain passion to the Tesla cars that obviously show up the way the Tesla cars drive...(and its not just the ludicrous modes...but they do contribute to that a helluva lot!!!) 

In other words, Tesla cars have a certain excitement factor to them.  Toyota once upon a time ago had that same fun and passion in their cars...but ever since the millennium hit us, Toyota lost that quality.  

Gone was the turbo Supra that the F&F crowd riced and tuned...to the beat of 1000 horses at times!

LOOOOONG gone was the AWD rallye Celica. All was left was a crappy 2 door that an Oldsmobile Alero shytty V6 could actually beat up on. (I know this personally well!) 

LOOOOOOOOONG gone was the mid-engined exotic car for the masses MR2 and in its place was...well...forgettable. 

All this sportiness was replaced by a stale 2 door Camry called the Solara. Nice car. But old phogeyish! 

All this sportiness was replaced by a pretty good car, the Matrix, that was shared with a Pontiac...a car company falsely building excitement, which ironically best represents Toyota at this time...and double irony...where the Matrix and Vibe were built is where Tesla now builds its cars.

The Matrix, had everything going for it, but what it was missing was a REAL SPORTY SOUL. And NEITHER Pontiac NOR Toyota had the wisdom nor balls to give it that passion!

Fast forward another decade and Toyota partners itself with Subaru to find that missing excitement factor and...comes up short again! 

Subaru doesnt care all that much because the WRX has got that passion in spades. And its AWD aura that its SUVs and CUVs benefit from! The BRZ could use some of that mystique, but its OK if it dont.

So...Toyota now partners up with BMW...another reject as BMW too, has lost their way...

So...I dont think Toyota is a good match for Tesla. All the fun will be sucked out of Telsa.

GM...may not need Tesla, as GM is on its own EV way.  That will probably supplant Tesla going forward anyway. The supercharging network maybe worth it though. 

FoMoCo maybe the better fit than all of the companies I mentioned. Maybe not. 

Mullaly's One Ford philosophy has dug Lincoln in a rut and for FoMoCo to buy out Tesla, well, for  both Tesla and Lincoln to compete for independence from FoMoCo might prove to be too much for FoMoCo to handle.

So...Tesla is on its own. Tesla either does or does not! 

10 hours ago, riviera74 said:

How about this modest proposal: Toyota buys them out and fixes their myriad issues instead.

What I am really frustrated with is our attitude towards American manufacturing. Why don't we just abdicate everything entirely to the Chinese and the Germans?  This among other things...if Musk can't get it right....ughhhhh.

Yes there are good American companies and I support the hell out of them every chance I can. I love the speed queen drier dfelt recommended.  Wife 16 year old daughter exchange student me 24 year old son 21 year old daughter make a ton of clothes.  That thing is built like a tank and gets things dry quickly.

Everything that says American made should be of really high quality.

I think it is more likely the French of all people would buy Tesla.

6 hours ago, riviera74 said:

That is understandable, but who has the expertise to actually fix their production problems?  Toyota is arguably the best choice, even though they are Japanese.

I see some wisdom here...but Toyota already has battery technology...and is not burning tons of cash like Tesla.