June 2012 - Mitsubishi

I thought the Evolution was being discontinued....

Several friends have bought new Evo's and really like them...

I guess now I have no stake in it, but the dealership I recently separated from has a deal in the works to purchase a Mitsubishi franchise from another local dealer group. Good luck with that.

Maybe they could contract to obtail herpes instead?

Mitsu has BAD product....not godawful or unreliable....but I can't rationally figure out how any sane person could want one.

Other than the Evolution, for performance reasons. And even then, I can think of a lot of better ways to spend 40 large on a car.

The Outlander isn't bad.

Not bad but./..could you really rationalize purchasing one?

While the EVO has a cult following, I would say that both Mitsu and Suzuki are two car companies best left to a quite death. Yes variety adds spice, but these companies no one would really miss if they went out of business.

Makes you wonder how much of the Yakuza are involved in keeping struggling businesses like this afloat for some alternative reason.

Suzuki and Mitsubishi and Mazda should just merge..... then they might have a fighting chance.

Is Mitsu only struggling in the US, though? Or is this a worldwide problem?

Japanese are too stubborn that way. Suzuki makes nearly 3 million vehicles a year globally, they just don't see the US as a big market for their tiny cars. Mazda is less than a million and a half if I recall. They all seem to think they are big enough to survive with their own world niche markets.

I initially disliked the new Outlander, but now that I have seen more pics over time, I like a lot about it. I already really dig the Outlander Sport. The OS needs to have its powertrains sorted out.

Mazda doesn't really get it in a couple ways. The smiley face thing for one. And at least they finally got rid of the RX7. That would have been a nice car without the wankel. Miatas a nice car but its a niche market. Mazda doesn't leverage itself very well to translate into sales.

Outlander Sport is updated some for 2013, right? I wish part of the update was a move to the 2.4L engine instead of the tiny 2.0.

Japanese are too stubborn that way. Suzuki makes nearly 3 million vehicles a year globally, they just don't see the US as a big market for their tiny cars. Mazda is less than a million and a half if I recall. They all seem to think they are big enough to survive with their own world niche markets.

I initially disliked the new Outlander, but now that I have seen more pics over time, I like a lot about it. I already really dig the Outlander Sport. The OS needs to have its powertrains sorted out.

Mazda doesn't really get it in a couple ways. The smiley face thing for one. And at least they finally got rid of the RX7. That would have been a nice car without the wankel. Miatas a nice car but its a niche market. Mazda doesn't leverage itself very well to translate into sales.

Well, Mazda seems to think they are in trouble....

Suzuki and Mitsubishi and Mazda should just merge..... then they might have a fighting chance.

So very true, if they merged, they could actually have a nice wide portfolio of product and be able to grow. But I see all 3 of these companies on LifeSupport.

Suzuki could do their SUVs and trucks

Mitsubishi focus on AWD/Sport.... likely with an intent to take on Subarus like the WRX... Mitsu has the heritage for this.

Mazda could be a sporty bread and butter division with the Miata and RX as their halos.

Use Mazda Skyactive and SkyActive-D engines all around.

Suzuki could do their SUVs and trucks

Mitsubishi focus on AWD/Sport.... likely with an intent to take on Subarus like the WRX... Mitsu has the heritage for this.

Mazda could be a sporty bread and butter division with the Miata and RX as their halos.

Use Mazda Skyactive and SkyActive-D engines all around.

Should put together a business plan that shows the benefits of bringing these 3 companies together and pitch it to them.

Mitsubishi still makes cars?

Merge Suzuki, Mazda and Mitsubishi? Uh, why? Who would run the place? Who would get fired? I have a better idea: at least two of the three should leave the US/Canada market since none of them have any significant impact here.

Oldsmoboi, on , said:

Suzuki and Mitsubishi and Mazda should just merge..... then they might have a fighting chance.

So very true, if they merged, they could actually have a nice wide portfolio of product and be able to grow. But I see all 3 of these companies on LifeSupport.

one of my competitor's stores sells both brands and the complement each other well, you can flip people back and forth.

Outlander Sport is updated some for 2013, right? I wish part of the update was a move to the 2.4L engine instead of the tiny 2.0.

your wish is my wish too. or a 2.0t.....

Japanese are too stubborn that way. Suzuki makes nearly 3 million vehicles a year globally, they just don't see the US as a big market for their tiny cars. Mazda is less than a million and a half if I recall. They all seem to think they are big enough to survive with their own world niche markets.

I initially disliked the new Outlander, but now that I have seen more pics over time, I like a lot about it. I already really dig the Outlander Sport. The OS needs to have its powertrains sorted out.

Mazda doesn't really get it in a couple ways. The smiley face thing for one. And at least they finally got rid of the RX7. That would have been a nice car without the wankel. Miatas a nice car but its a niche market. Mazda doesn't leverage itself very well to translate into sales.

A very rational post that expresses my frustration with Mazda...

And why I think they will never grow beyond much where they are now...

Mazda really seems to have no desire to go balls to the wall. Nissan does, even with barfy products at times.

Suzuki and Mitsubishi and Mazda should just merge..... then they might have a fighting chance.

An idea that is both good and bad...they would have competing corporate cultures, and they would have shared weaknesses and perhaps still not enough shared strength to survive.

Mazda really seems to have no desire to go balls to the wall. Nissan does, even with barfy products at times.

they need to think survival long term, and not balls to the wall.

Nissan is a much larger company and can afford mistakes and products that Mazda can't.

Mazda could have never pulled off the leaf or the GTR for example, and they don't have a larger sedan as good as the Maxima, and they don't have a more conventional sports car like the 370Z...RX-8 was quirky and powered by a rotary and sold in tiny numbers at the end...

And the three looks goofy and isn't as fresh as the Ultima.