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    Rumorpile: Nissan Giving Up On Vans

      NV possibly now means "Never Vanning"

    Nearly a decade ago, Nissan launched an ambitious assault on the U.S. commercial van market with the launch of their NV vans. It started with the Titan-dervived, body-on-frame NV1500/2500/3500 vans. This was followed by the unibody NV200 van, which was for a time the "Taxi of Tommorow" in New York City. But Nissan is reportedly throwing in the towel.

    Automotive News has learned from a source that it will end production of their commercial vans. No time frame was given.

    "We don't want to go more in the business of vans in the U.S. We will exit," said the source.

    Nissan spokesman Brian Brockman declined to comment about the future of the commercial vans, only saying in a statement that the automaker " is considering a number of opportunities to streamline the product portfolio and drive efficiencies within our manufacturing operations."

    When the NV lineup was launched in 2009, Nissan was hoping to steal away sales from the Detroit Three. At the time, Ford and GM had 97 percent of the large van segment. The NV was positioned as being a more modern option compared to the Ford E-Series and Chevrolet Express/GMC Savana. It was more comfortable with adjustable seats, taller ceiling for easier access to the cargo area, and pre-drilled holes in the body to allow owners to add interior racks easily. But Nissan wasn't able to make decent inroads into this market, only achieving around an eight percent share in the marketplace.

    What was the NV's downfall?

    • Brand Loyalty to the American brands
    • Using a modified Titan platform for the larger vans comprised them in urban areas with their extended front nose, and cargo capacity.
      • "A third of the vehicle is dedicated to the engine and passenger compartment instead of cargo. The van takes up more real estate for the same amount of cargo space," explained Sam Fiorani, vice president at AutoForecast Solutions.
    • NV200 Taxis were dinged by taxi companies poor ride quality, difficulty entering/exiting the van for elderly passengers, and increasing maintenance costs.
    • Proved to a be a difficult sale to fleet buyers due to the automaker lacking the numerous combinations of light-trucks that the Detroit three can offer. Trucks and vans work hand in hand to attract sales in the commercial market.
      • "Chevrolet and Ford can be everything to everybody," said Tyler Slade, operating partner at Tim Dahle Nissan Southtowne in Salt Lake City. "When we went to some of these fleet companies, it didn't make sense for them to have trucks from Ford and vans from Nissan."

    Add in $2.8 billion in cuts that the company is planning to stay afloat and COVID-19, and the death knell was coming sooner than later for the NV family.

    If Nissan does go forward with dropping the NV family, this will be a major blow to about a forth of Nissan dealers in the U.S. They made various investments such as installing heavy-duty lifts capable of lifting fully-loaded vans and having a dedicated sales staff to handle specific fleet issues.

    "Dealers now have serious concerns about their investments in commercial vehicles," said Slade.

    There is also the question as to whether Nissan may try again. Automotive News notes that in the new business strategy outlined last month, Nissan is wanting more global cooperation with its alliance partner Renault. The French automaker already has a number of vans in its lineup and is quite successful in various markets. Nissan already sells a version of the Renault Traffic, called the NV300 in Europe.

    But getting a Renault van into the U.S. as a Nissan will be difficult and costly in terms of homologation. Also, Nissan would still need to figure out how to appeal to larger fleet buyers that go with Ford or GM.

    Source: Automotive News (Subscription Required), The Drive
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    I am looking forward for the abomination of NV200 to disappear from the streets of New York.  One of the worst decisions that were forced on NYC.

    NV1500/3500 on the other hand while quite ugly, is a good, tough and reliable work horse because it is based on the Titan.  My friend has one.

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    Shame Nissan did not look to the green crowd and bring their Electric vans that are doing well in China and Japan and starting to take off in Europe here earlier. Is decent delivery van. 

    If GM does get their EV Van out for delivery companies, they could really wrap up the bulk of the market fast.

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    First of all, why would anyone build a VAN based on a pickup truck NOW?  This is not 1980 or 1990.  I am glad Nissan failed in this market.

    GM/Ford should build these vans based on a crossover platform, NOT a truck platform.  These vans (especially as taxis) should be made for passengers, not concrete and other construction cargo.

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    Nissan is facing financial troubles, and Covid-19 is only going to add to that.  Look at Nissan/Infiniti’s line and look how old most of that product is.   They don’t have money to keep their product fresh and they rely on rental fleets a bit which aren’t buying cars now.  This is a hurting company.

    They could try Renault vans, they are probably better than the Fiat vans that Ram sells.  

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    11 hours ago, smk4565 said:

    They could try Renault vans, they are probably better than the Fiat vans that Ram sells.  

    They could, but considering how expensive it would be to do the homologation for emissions, safety standard, etc, I think Nissan would pass on it for the time being.

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    They cannot simply afford keeping most of their product line up! I expect quite a few models to disappear as things go down for Nissan. The Vans are just the first...

    Interesting that some of our local UPSPS like using these vans.....

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    1 hour ago, daves87rs said:

    They cannot simply afford keeping most of their product line up! I expect quite a few models to disappear as things go down for Nissan. The Vans are just the first...

    Interesting that some of our local UPSPS like using these vans.....

    Bet the local fleet dealers dumped the vans from inventory very cheaply to get them moved and off the lot. I rarely see them at the dealerships anymore when I was out and about. I live between two nissan dealers in my area, one down by costco to the south and one up north by business costco. They both like the Mercedes-Benze dealer used to carry a ton of the vans, now nothing that you can find, all special order.

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    A co-worker has an account with a local general contracting company.  They bought a bunch of the little NV200 vans.  Every time one was brought in for collision repair, the employee dropping it off mentioned how much they all hate them.

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    4 hours ago, ocnblu said:

    A co-worker has an account with a local general contracting company.  They bought a bunch of the little NV200 vans.  Every time one was brought in for collision repair, the employee dropping it off mentioned how much they all hate them.

    This is what I have heard here from the local collision repair shop, they say no one really likes them on the inside as too tight and when it comes to a collision, they seem to crumple like a Bud Light Beer Can making repairs very hard. Wonder if this is due to the design of the unibody construction. Seems to be a throw away auto if in an accident.

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