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    2018 Kia Stinger to Begin At $32,800, GT At $39,200

      How much will Kia's new RWD sedan set you back?


    Kia has revealed the pricing for the 2018 Stinger and Stinger GT that will be arriving at dealers next month. The base Stinger with a turbocharged 2.0L four-cylinder will begin at $32,800. The twin-turbo 3.3 V6 Stinger GT kicks off at $39,250. Prices include a $900 destination charge.

    The Stinger comes standard with 18-inch wheels, limited slip differential, leather upholstery, power adjustable front seats with heat, dual-zone climate control, keyless ignition, and a 7-inch touchscreen with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto compatibility. Stinger GT models add adaptive dampers, Brembo brakes, and a nine-speaker audio system with external amplifier. All-wheel drive is available for an extra $2,200 with either engine.

    “Although the Stinger is unlike any other Kia that has come before it in terms of pure driving enjoyment, it is still very much a traditional Kia in that it offers consumers a very compelling value proposition, providing excellent performance and handling, premium features and functionality when compared to its much higher-priced competitors.” said Orth Hedrick, vice president of product planning for Kia Motor America.

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    KIA MOTORS AMERICA ANNOUNCES 2018 STINGER PRICING

    • Fastback Performance Sedan Brings Kia to New Heights While Maintaining Remarkable Value
    • Stinger delivers head-turning design, premium amenities and heart-pounding power at an incredibly value-packed price
    • Combination of aggressive pricing and spirited performance makes Stinger a compelling alternative to substantially more expensive luxury sport sedans

    IRVINE, Calif., November 16, 2017 — Kia Motors America (KMA) today announced pricing for the highly anticipated all-new 2018 Stinger fastback sport sedan.  Expected to arrive in Kia dealers in December1, the highest-performance production vehicle in the company’s history will be offered in five trim levels – Stinger, Stinger Premium, GT, GT1, and GT2.

    • Stinger starts at $31,900
    • Stinger Premium starts at $37,100
    • GT starts at $38,350
    • GT1 starts at $43,250
    • GT2 starts at $49,200
    • All-wheel drive:  $2,200
    • Destination: $900

    “The Stinger is a prime example of Kia’s commitment to surpassing consumers’ expectations in everything we do,” said Orth Hedrick, vice president of product planning, KMA. “Although the Stinger is unlike any other Kia that has come before it in terms of pure driving enjoyment, it is still very much a traditional Kia in that it offers consumers a very compelling value proposition, providing excellent performance and handling, premium features and functionality when compared to its much higher-priced competitors.”

    Designed in Frankfurt, developed on the Nürburgring, and built by the brand ranked highest by J.D. Power in initial quality3, the Stinger is offered with multiple engine and drivetrain configurations and luxurious accommodations. All Stingers come standard with a leather-appointed interior, though ultra-soft Nappa leather is available. A thick hand-stitched multifunction leather-wrapped steering wheel with paddle shifters sits front and center of the driver, while the GT trim gets a flat-bottom steering wheel.  All Stingers are available with a large color TFT instrument cluster with performance gauges including a track timer, and in true gran turismo fashion, the Stinger has a generous 23.3 cu.-ft. of cargo space that can be accessed via a power liftgate with available Smart Trunk functionality.

    The base Stinger rides on a passive suspension tuned to offer a balance of handling and ride comfort, while the GT is available with Kia’s first electronically controlled Dynamic Stability Damping Control and standard high-performance Brembo®4 disc brakes. Two turbocharged engines are available: The base Stinger and Premium trims get a 2.0-liter twin-scroll turbocharged four-cylinder engine that produces 255 horsepower at 6,200 rpm with 260 lb.-ft. of maximum torque available from 1,400 – 4,000 rpm. Stingers wearing the GT moniker get a more powerful 3.3-liter twin-turbo V6 which produces 365 horsepower at 6,000 rpm and offers 376 lb.-ft. of torque from 1,300 – 4,500 rpm.  Both engines are matched to a second-generation eight-speed rear-drive automatic transmission. All-wheel drive also is available across all trims.

    Multiple Advance Driver Assistance systems work together to enhance the driving experience, including Driver Attention Warning (DAW)5, Forward Collision Avoidance (FCA)6 with pedestrian detection, Smart Cruise Control with Stop & Go (SCC w/ S&G)6, Lane Keeping Assist (LKA) 6, Blind Spot Collision Warning (BCW) 6, and Rear Cross-Traffic Collision Warning (RCCW)6.  A height-adjustable color Head-Up Display (HUD)7 display is also available.

    The base audio system for the 2.0-liter turbo features six speakers and a seven-inch color touchscreen with the latest version of UVO, Kia’s award-winning telematics systems8. The standard system found in the GT trim ups the speaker count to nine and includes an external amplifier. A premium Harman/Kardon®9 audio system that features Clari-Fi™10 and next-generation QuantumLogic™11 Surround Sound technology is also available.

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    In a way it is competitively priced in another way I think they are a little high.  I see this car's real competitors as Camaro and Mustang, but the Stinger has 4 doors.  You can get a Mustang premium for $30k and a Mustang GT for $35k, and I haven't looked feature by feature, but I imagine a lot of the equipment is similar on both cars.   And to that point a V8 Dodge Charger is $35k, a V8 Chrysler 300 is $39k, and they always have big discounts at FCA dealerships.  

    The version that Car and Driver drove was $50,000, that is just too much for a Kia.  $29,900 base and $37,000 for the V6 would have looked more competitive.  The problem I suspect is Kia will see BMW or Alfa Romeo as their competition, which it isn't.

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    7 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    The version that Car and Driver drove was $50,000, that is just too much for a Kia.  $29,900 base and $37,000 for the V6 would have looked more competitive.  The problem I suspect is Kia will see BMW or Alfa Romeo as their competition, which it isn't.

    You do not know that it is way too much for a Kia, your showing your badge snob as I would say that 60% of the MB auto's are way overpriced. Everything from the MB A class to the C class is way overpriced for what you get and in that regards much of the E and S class too in comparison to much better deals from other makers.

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    Well, Kia already has cars more expensive--the Credenza and K900, which compete against Genesis and others in the luxury space.  It will be interesting to see how the Stinger is received as a sports sedan...something about it does make me think 'Kia Charger' more than Audi, BMW, MB, etc competitor.. part of that is the name, which really sounds like it should been a Dodge name in the late 60s... 

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    28 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    In a way it is competitively priced in another way I think they are a little high.  I see this car's real competitors as Camaro and Mustang, but the Stinger has 4 doors.  You can get a Mustang premium for $30k and a Mustang GT for $35k, and I haven't looked feature by feature, but I imagine a lot of the equipment is similar on both cars.   And to that point a V8 Dodge Charger is $35k, a V8 Chrysler 300 is $39k, and they always have big discounts at FCA dealerships.  

    The version that Car and Driver drove was $50,000, that is just too much for a Kia.  $29,900 base and $37,000 for the V6 would have looked more competitive.  The problem I suspect is Kia will see BMW or Alfa Romeo as their competition, which it isn't.

    Badge snob alert being that you have never sat in much less driven to one to think it’s “a little high”. Furthmore, unlike the Charger and 300, this one can actually take turns. 

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    39 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

    Badge snob alert being that you have never sat in much less driven to one to think it’s “a little high”. Furthmore, unlike the Charger and 300, this one can actually take turns. 

    Please tell us more about your experiences driving Chargers and 300s.  And furthermore, Kia Stingers.

     

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    1 hour ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    Well, Kia already has cars more expensive--the Credenza and K900, which compete against Genesis and others in the luxury space.  It will be interesting to see how the Stinger is received as a sports sedan...something about it does make me think 'Kia Charger' more than Audi, BMW, MB, etc competitor.. part of that is the name, which really sounds like it should been a Dodge name in the late 60s... 

    In pictures...the Stinger has intrigued me as of late.

    In pictures, I find the Stinger to be a good looking sedan. I stress "in pictures" because I got to see it in person first to let  go of my own negative Korean car biases.

    But I do like the Genesis...so I dont know why I still hold this bias...I wouldnt buy one...but I like it!

    I see the Stinger more of a RWD Optima rather than a  "Kia Charger" though. Not that that is bad thing. Whether I find its a RWD Optima or you view it as a Kia Charger.

    To be honest...I think its a GREAT thing that KIA and Hyundai are offering enthusiast machines. Yes Hyundai and KIA enthusiast  machines are a work in progress, at least they are heading in an enthusiast direction. And heading in a good direction at that!

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    8 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

    How did he like it.  Did he autocross it?

    HE LOVED IT!!!

    He wished he could have another!

    Although I dont agree with his assessment that these cars dont handle well. I think they handle well enough...but then again...I never daily driven one like he did...

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    8 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

    In pictures...the Stinger has intrigued me as of late.

    In pictures, I find the Stinger to be a good looking sedan. I stress "in pictures" because I got to see it in person first to let  go of my own negative Korean car biases.

    But I do like the Genesis...so I dont know why I still hold this bias...I wouldnt buy one...but I like it!

    I see the Stinger more of a RWD Optima rather than a  "Kia Charger" though. Not that that is bad thing. Whether I find its a RWD Optima or you view it as a Kia Charger. 

    Yes, me too...in pictures. Have yet to see it in person. The roofline does look straight off the previous Optima... my Charger reference isn't because of the styling, but the name and the concept--a mainstream brand largish RWD sports sedan..the Charger is really the only other one out there... I think it's great that Kia, Hyundai and Genesis are aspiring to make world class sports sedans and luxury cars..more competition is a good thing...

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    17 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    Yes, me too...in pictures. Have yet to see it in person. The roofline does look straight off the previous Optima... my Charger reference isn't because of the styling, but the name and the concept--a mainstream brand largish RWD sports sedan..the Charger is really the only other one out there... I think it's great that Kia, Hyundai and Genesis are aspiring to make world class sports sedans and luxury cars..more competition is a good thing...

    Yes! Yes!

    Most definitely does the name Stinger belong to a Mopar from the 1960s!

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    "Stinger" reminds me of "Super Bee", so yeah, there is that aspect... and I believe Kia is trading on American nostalgia with the name they chose.

     

    Would love to see a Dodge Hornet compact with a turbo 4... such a natural family name... Hudson Hornet begat the AMC Hornet (wasn't there a family line there?) and AMC was absorbed by Chrysler... hence the once and future Dodge Hornet...

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    1 hour ago, dfelt said:

    You do not know that it is way too much for a Kia, your showing your badge snob as I would say that 60% of the MB auto's are way overpriced. Everything from the MB A class to the C class is way overpriced for what you get and in that regards much of the E and S class too in comparison to much better deals from other makers.

    I am glad Kia made a rear drive car, I wish there were more of them out there.  But imagine Chevy trying to sell a sedan smaller than the Malibu for $40-50k, when they tried a full size car with a V8 for $45k that didn't work.  

    The Stinger is a better deal than the Regal, but there are Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, Charger, 300 for less money.  I think if they priced it like and targeted Mustang and Camaro (performance with a back seat and awd) then Kia could get a lot of sales.  If they try to be a value play to the Germans it won't work.

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    31 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

     

    Would love to see a Dodge Hornet compact with a turbo 4... such a natural family name... Hudson Hornet begat the AMC Hornet (wasn't there a family line there?) and AMC was absorbed by Chrysler... hence the once and future Dodge Hornet...

    Yep, AMC was created by the merger of Nash and Hudson.   As far as Dodge compacts, it's too bad Dodge wasn't able to see success w/ the Dart..not sure what the issue there was..

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    2 hours ago, ocnblu said:

    How did he like it.  Did he autocross it?

    If the Magnum had feelings I am sure the auto was cross with him when he sold it.

    1 hour ago, ocnblu said:

    "Stinger" reminds me of "Super Bee", so yeah, there is that aspect... and I believe Kia is trading on American nostalgia with the name they chose.

     

    Would love to see a Dodge Hornet compact with a turbo 4... such a natural family name... Hudson Hornet begat the AMC Hornet (wasn't there a family line there?) and AMC was absorbed by Chrysler... hence the once and future Dodge Hornet...

    My wife's family had an AMC hornet when she was a kid...in families and car companies there are parts of the past that really belong in the closet.

    2 hours ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    Yes, me too...in pictures. Have yet to see it in person. The roofline does look straight off the previous Optima... my Charger reference isn't because of the styling, but the name and the concept--a mainstream brand largish RWD sports sedan..the Charger is really the only other one out there... I think it's great that Kia, Hyundai and Genesis are aspiring to make world class sports sedans and luxury cars..more competition is a good thing...

    I love the aspirations of the Korean companies.  A real part of me is excited as an enthusiast here.

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    3 hours ago, smk4565 said:

     

    The version that Car and Driver drove was $50,000, that is just too much for a Kia.  $29,900 base and $37,000 for the V6 would have looked more competitive.  The problem I suspect is Kia will see BMW or Alfa Romeo as their competition, which it isn't.

    Unlike the BMW and the Alfa this thing will self propel after the warranty expires without expensive life support.

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    13 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

    Unlike the BMW and the Alfa this thing will self propel after the warranty expires without expensive life support.

    Maybe, maybe not we don’t know too much about long term reliably of the Hyundai twin turbo V6, but Kia scores well in reliability ratings.

    The Kia will depreciate twice as fast as a BMW though, a five year old 3-Series will probably sell for $10,000 more than a five year old Stinger.  Case in point, a 2015 Kia K900 V8 was $59,000 new, they sell certified used for $27,000 now, that is a hell of a drop.

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    5 hours ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    Well, Kia already has cars more expensive--the Credenza and K900, which compete against Genesis and others in the luxury space.

    Kia cannot give the K900 away- it's a flop. September US sales : 31. It's a $50K Kia. Yeah.

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    4 hours ago, smk4565 said:

    Maybe, maybe not we don’t know too much about long term reliably of the Hyundai twin turbo V6, but Kia scores well in reliability ratings.

    The Kia will depreciate twice as fast as a BMW though, a five year old 3-Series will probably sell for $10,000 more than a five year old Stinger.  Case in point, a 2015 Kia K900 V8 was $59,000 new, they sell certified used for $27,000 now, that is a hell of a drop.

    Agreed.  It's almost Mercedes-like.

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    Hey to those of you actually interested in this car - test drive it, but buy it in Canada, have it delivered there and then import it back into the U.S.

    For some inexplicable reason, the car fully loaded in Canada is priced $5000 less nominally. That's before you factor in exchange rates. We Canadians get a massive discount on this car. Also, missing features like a 360 degree camera are included in the Canadian market car.

    Seriously - it's the SS car Chevy stopped making, Ford cannot possibly build without sinking billions, and Chrysler won't make for atleast another 4 years, if they even try to remake the Charger or 300 on the Giulia platform.

    Kia is by introducing this car the last holdout in the affordable RWD performance 4 door grand tourer.

     

     

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    The Kia Stinger is a grand tourer and concentrates first and foremost on a comfortable driving experience. There are quite a few luxury amenities and it's a very quiet car. It's not supposed to be a four door Camaro or Mustang. I can see how it may annoy some people that Kia has a rear wheel drive car that can hit 60mph in 4.4 seconds and run 1/4 miles in under 12 out of the showroom. That kind of thing isn't supposed to happen. But it's nice that it does - and it's nice that Kia is offering this to people who don't mind a Kia badge.

    It's certainly true that Canadians are getting a much better deal and have almost every option available in other places. The only thing they're missing is a suspension option only available, to my knowledge, in Australia. I don't believe the Canadians get the same warranty we get here, however.

    The most wanted feature missing from our Stingers is Surround View Camera. I'm not sure why they left out this feature (and a few others, like wireless charging) but I have to imagine it has something to do with the Genesis G70...

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    2 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    It most certainly does not do that. If so, do you have a link to said review/test? 

    It's been done so many times at this point that I don't know where to begin. These guys got a 12.7 but only mustered a 4.8 0-60...

     

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    1 hour ago, Sal Collaziano said:

    may annoy some people that Kia has a rear wheel drive car that can hit 60mph in 4.4 seconds and run 1/4 miles in under 12 out of the showroom.

     12.79 seconds is totally NOT  under 12 seconds.

    That is .79 seconds and that is a whole lot.  That does not mean that 12.79 seconds in the quarter mile is not fast, because it is.  

    But...saying the Stinger does the 1/4 mile in under 12 seconds  means that the Stinger is an 11 second car.  But these guys did the 1/4 mile in 12.79 seconds....that is quite a big gap for the Stinger to be an 11 second car. In fact, its a high 12 second car. 

    Meaning, the way you presented  the Stinger, you made it seem like it belonged in the 11 sec bracket. Its a 12 second car.  Just to give you an idea, (forget about prepped tracks and slicks and barometric pressures and the like because all that plays into the times...just use the numbers for chit chatting and learning a lesson) 

    Just to give you an idea...

    Car and Driver 

    https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2015-dodge-charger-srt-392-first-drive-review

    An Dodge Charger SRT 392  6.4 liter V8 weighing  4400 lbs producing about 485 Horsepower and 475 ft. Lbs of torque does the 1/4 mile in 12.4 seconds 

    At the same publication....Car and Driver

    https://www.caranddriver.com/kia/stinger

    got the Stinger weighing 4100 lbs to do the 1/4 mile in 13.2 seconds @108 mph.  The Stinger has got 365 horsepower and 375 ft.lbs of torque 

    (like I said...just use the numbers as a guide line...different day, different track...etc...)  

    In other words...120 horses less and 100 ft.lbs less resulting in 1 full second less in the 1/4 mile...

    The Dodge Charger Hellcat again from  Car and Driver

    https://www.caranddriver.com/dodge/charger-srt-srt-hellcat

    ...at 4550 lbs with a 6.2 liter supercharged V8 producing 707 horsepower and  650 ft. lbs of torque 

    does the 1/4 mile with standard tires but prepped track in 11.4 seconds @ 128 mph.

     

    Taking the two Chargers...same car with different powertrains...it took 222 horses and 175 ft.lbs of torque to gain 1 full second in the 1/4 mile...

    Meaning...the Stinger needs a whole lot of horsepower and torque than what it has to achieve under 12 second runs...

    Car and Driver got 13.2 seconds. The Aussie guys got 12.79 seconds...its believable...the Stinger might have had slicks or it was a prepped track or the weather heavily favored that run...but to say the Stringer is an under 12 second car....well....for that to happen...at 4100 lbs...it probably needs close to Hellcat horsepower and torque...in other words....at least 600 horsepower...

    Just to show you further...

    From Car and Driver 2000 December (keeping it stable and constant with the test resource) 

    https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/slp-trans-am-10th-anniversary-firehawk-road-test-review

    A 10th Anniversary SLP Trans Am producing 335 hoprsepower and 350 ft./bs of torque from a 5.7 liter V8 weighing 3576 lbs (very  close to Stinger numbers albeit weighing considerably less)  did the 1/4 mile that particular day  in 13.6 seconds @106 mph... 

    As a guide line...  aprox. 300-350 horsepower and 300-360 ft.lbs of torque on cars weighing 3500-4000 lbs  will produce high 12 second to low 13 second 1/4 mile cars...

    (I remember quite well  that a 4rth generation LS1 Camaro ...same as that Trans Am...did constant 1/4 mile runs  in the high 12 seconds...)

    Like I said...Just numbers....to be used as a guideline...and that is why @ccap41 questioned you...

    And no, I dont think he is annoyed about the Stinger numbers....I aint either. Its pretty cool actually that KIA offers us a car like this!!!

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    Well that's my facepalm of the day and what I get for rushing. I meant to say something like "runs 12 second 1/4 miles out of the showroom". Yes, of course, if it were running anything like 11.99 or under and cost anywhere near $50k, that would be tremendous news...

     

    I'll come back and read this rest tomorrow. I'm out of time for today - but I HAD to come back and correct that error...

    20 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

    that is why @ccap41 questioned you...

    And no, I dont think he is annoyed about the Stinger numbers

    Also, I never said he (ccap41) was annoyed at anything. I said, "I can see how it may annoy some people" - that wasn't directed at anyone in particular. I actually wrote that line before he began participating in the discussion...

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    23 minutes ago, Sal Collaziano said:

     

    Also, I never said he (ccap41) was annoyed at anything. I said, "I can see how it may annoy some people" - that wasn't directed at anyone in particular. I actually wrote that line before he began participating in the discussion...

    I never said that you did. 

    I just mentioned that because you mentioned that before any discussions were made. Im  just reassuring you that he and I were not annoyed with the Stinger's numbers and all we want is sound discourse. 

     

     

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    Our whole conversation at this point is just one big accident because I should have never said the car does the 1/4 in under 12 seconds. Total accident and I apologize for wasting your time. All that you wrote up there - should have never happened... I've been running a Stinger community for an entire year and never once said (or even remotely believed) the Stinger was anything but a high 12 second/low 13 second car. It was just a slip of the brain that my statement came out that way. My fail of the year.

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    A sub 13 sec quarter mile and a sub 5 sec 0-60 time...hard to imagine those numbers and Kia in the same sentence..fascinating times we live in..

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    @Sal Collaziano

    I dont do numbers anymore.

    I dont argue about them either. When someone INSISTS on one car being faster than another and then proceeds to tell me that that car is better than the other JUST BECAUSE of said numbers I just ignore. I am NOT saying that is what you did here. Nor am I accusing you of anything, I am just telling you how I am and how I deal with numbers. 

    I know that numbers change from day to day and from track to track and all kinds of factors are involved. Factors like the test drivers for instance. Skill also plays a role with numbers. 

    Just to let you know, I was not offended by any of your comments, nor did I judge you negatively in any way.  I just wanted sound discourse and I want us to continue with sound discourse in the future, you and I. 

    I did not mean anything by my posts to you. I just wanted you to understand why I and CCAP questioned the "under 12 seconds" remark. 

    I just wanted to point out and correct the discrepancy. Nothing more, nothing less.  

    You should post in here more often as I enjoy reading your posts!!!  

     

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    14 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

    And no, I dont think he is annoyed about the Stinger numbers....I aint either. Its pretty cool actually that KIA offers us a car like this!!!

    Not at all! I dig the car and it is a very quick car. I wouldn't mind owning one second hand, to let somebody take the depreciation hit because I couldn't spend 40-50k on one of these. 

    13 hours ago, Sal Collaziano said:

    My fail of the year.

    Hey, if your fail of the year was in December, it must have been a pretty good year!

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    I wonder if AWD changes the numbers much.  In Canada I think AWD is standard, 80% of power to the rear.  I really love the SS, but it never sold here so this Kia is pretty awesome to me.

     

     

     

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    14 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

    You should post in here more often as I enjoy reading your posts!!! 

    Thank you. :)

    2 hours ago, ccap41 said:

    Hey, if your fail of the year was in December, it must have been a pretty good year!

    Haha. Yeah, I'm typically pretty good with my 0-60's and 1/4 mile times but this one just slipped while I was doing too many things at once. If Kia ever comes out with a car running sub-12's, that would be some serious competition for big names in the industry...

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    1 hour ago, Sal Collaziano said:

    If Kia ever comes out with a car running sub-12's, that would be some serious competition for big names in the industry...

    i could see that happening when they're running AWD EV's in a car similar to this. The instantaneous torque will get some crazy times in the future. Buuuuut I don't think they'd be alone at that point. 

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    If the Stinger is successful, maybe they will do a higher power version down the road..Stinger Wasp or something like that... the Stinger sounds like a fun car, some spicy kimchi.  Looking forward to seeing one in person. 

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    Amazing how fast Kia has supported the 3rd party performance parts market.

    https://www.carid.com/kia-stinger-performance-parts/

    Seems you can also find plenty of ECU tuning that can give you from 40 BHP or more depending on how radical you want to get.

    https://www.tuning-wizard.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=362

    So based on just a basic ECU Tune, you would have the turbo 4 banger go from 255HP to 295HP. Twin Turbo V6 would go from 365HP to 405HP.

    That would make a whole lot of fun with just an ECU Tune.

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    20 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    Ehhhhh That's not the kind of aftermarket support I would trust with my car. 

    The Dial ECU Tune or parts add on by yourself or both?

    I can say that I have never used a Dial ECU tune before, but have replaced my own chip with a custom Tune ECU chip and saw big differences right away.

    Or are you an OEM Performance parts person only?

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    54 minutes ago, dfelt said:

    The Dial ECU Tune or parts add on by yourself or both?

    I can say that I have never used a Dial ECU tune before, but have replaced my own chip with a custom Tune ECU chip and saw big differences right away.

    Or are you an OEM Performance parts person only?

    I'm not OEM-only at all but that site just seemed sketchy, waaaay too cheap for a tune, and it's a piggy-back style system that, to simplify it, tricks the ECU instead of actually reprogramming the ECU. I just don't feel comfortable doing things like that. 

    The idea of a dial seems fantastic but I'd rather buy a "canned" tune if I'm not sending my car to a dyno tuner. 

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    8 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    I'm not OEM-only at all but that site just seemed sketchy, waaaay too cheap for a tune, and it's a piggy-back style system that, to simplify it, tricks the ECU instead of actually reprogramming the ECU. I just don't feel comfortable doing things like that. 

    The idea of a dial seems fantastic but I'd rather buy a "canned" tune if I'm not sending my car to a dyno tuner. 

    I totally agree with all you stated. I myself have not used the company listed, but surprised at how fast someone got something on the market.

    I will say that I do like the dial tune ECU custom chip package where you replace the OEM ECU with one that starts at OEM programing and yet also go up to full power ECU and back if you need MPG over Power.

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    16 minutes ago, dfelt said:

    I totally agree with all you stated. I myself have not used the company listed, but surprised at how fast someone got something on the market.

    I did a little searching and it seems like people are trying things and parts already, which is cool. Hopefully the aftermarket grows with this car but I bet it'll be pretty small. 

    This was a good little read and they made some pretty significant gains with intake, catback, and a tune. 

    https://stingerforum.org/threads/stinger-gt-3-3tt-mods-begin.1062/page-2

    17 minutes ago, dfelt said:

    I will say that I do like the dial tune ECU custom chip package where you replace the OEM ECU with one that starts at OEM programing and yet also go up to full power ECU and back if you need MPG over Power.

    Absolutely! My Mustang I had dyno tuned but I had it on a handheld tuner so I could go back and forth when I wanted to was like a 5 minute process to go back and forth. If I could have had it from fuel economy to performance in a couple seconds, that would be FANTASTIC. Although, I know m fuel economy tune would be on 87 octane and performance would be on 93 so that would never really work for me.

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