Jump to content
News
Reviews
Discussons
Activity
Create New...
Close

  • 💬 Join the Conversation

    CnG Logo SQ 2023 RedBlue FavIcon300w.png
    Since 2001, Cheers & Gears has been the go-to hub for automotive enthusiasts. Join today to access our vibrant forums, upload your vehicle to the Garage, and connect with fellow gearheads around the world.

     

  • William Maley
    William Maley

    By William Maley •

    How the New Emission Standard May Actually Make It Harder For Automakers To Achieve

      And now for something completely contradictory 

    Under the current standards for vehicle emissions, automakers have a variety of ways to achieve compliance. These are known as "compliance flexibilities" which allows an automaker to sell electric vehicles to off-set gad-guzzlers like SUVs as an example. But the recent proposal by the Trump administration to ease emission standards, will remove these flexibilities.

    The proposal unveiled last week would freeze fuel-economy and emissions standards at their 2020 levels for several years beyond that. This would seem like a positive for automakers as trucks and SUVs/crossovers are selling like hotcakes. But the removal of this provision has automakers crying fowl, saying these help with global vehicle development. The heads of the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers and the Association of Global Automakers wrote a letter to Trump stating that the “flexible compliance pathways that pave the way for research and deployment in advanced fuel-saving technologies”.

    “We are global manufacturers; to compete around the world, we must continue to invest in both more efficient internal combustion engine technologies, electric-drive technologies and fuel cells,” said Mitch Bainwol of the Alliance, and John Bozzella of the Global Automakers.

    But there is a reason the government is removing those compliance flexibilities as it "existing fuel-economy program easier to administer and more transparent". This makes it easier for regulators and consumers to verify an automaker's claim. The current system is somewhat confusing, as thirstier automakers can buy into compliance by trading emission credits from more efficient ones. The trades and prices can be shielded from public viewing.

    Source: Bloomberg

    Go to articles

    User Feedback

    Recommended Comments

    G. David Felt

    I get both sides of this coin, simplistic for politicians and the current administration that is confused by the way American as well as European and Asian auto companies are building and balancing the system. Then the OEM which wants the MPG to be put into static mode but keep everything else the same.

    OEM's will have to adjust if the current system is rolled back to be this simplistic system and that will really affect everyone to meet the MPG when they cannot use EV, Hybrid or any other alternative fuel such as the CNG/LNG trucks the OEMs make and use to offset the gas guzzling pickups.

    One does have to wonder why it would not be simplest to just freeze the MPG as the auto industry has asked till 2035 letting them get their alternative powertrain auto's out and get caught up. A pause would be good for all, but one has to wonder if this is also a way to reduce the headcount in government jobs?

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites
    riviera74
    7 hours ago, dfelt said:

    I get both sides of this coin, simplistic for politicians and the current administration that is confused by the way American as well as European and Asian auto companies are building and balancing the system. Then the OEM which wants the MPG to be put into static mode but keep everything else the same.

    OEM's will have to adjust if the current system is rolled back to be this simplistic system and that will really affect everyone to meet the MPG when they cannot use EV, Hybrid or any other alternative fuel such as the CNG/LNG trucks the OEMs make and use to offset the gas guzzling pickups.

    One does have to wonder why it would not be simplest to just freeze the MPG as the auto industry has asked till 2035 letting them get their alternative powertrain auto's out and get caught up. A pause would be good for all, but one has to wonder if this is also a way to reduce the headcount in government jobs?

    Freezing the standards is a good start. 

    If this administration truly wanted to reduce EPA headcount, they can get Congress to legislate the EPA out of existence.  For a party that has advocated smaller federal government since 1980, they sure are doing a surprisingly poor job doing just that.  Only defunding and legislation will actually reduce headcount in an appreciable manner, unless you want to repeal the merit-based civil service and revert to a 19th Century Spoils System.

    • Thanks 1
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites
    daves87rs

    Meh.

    You are going to win some and lose some.

    Step or get out-change with times.....

    That said- my low tech Cobalt and Cavalier have no issues with getting good MPGs...

    Maybe less airbags and junk might help first......

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites


    Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
    Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

    Guest
    Add a comment...

    ×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

      Only 75 emoji are allowed.

    ×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

    ×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

    ×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

    ×



  • Support Real Automotive Journalism

    Cheers and Gears Logo

    Since 2001, Cheers & Gears has delivered real content and honest opinions — not emotionless AI output or manufacturer-filtered fluff.

    If you value independent voices and authentic reviews, consider subscribing. Plans start at just $2.25/month, and paid members enjoy an ad-light experience.*

    You can view subscription options here.

    *a very limited number of ads contain special coupon deals for our members and will show

  • Similar Content

  • Posts

    • trinacriabob
      Random Thoughts Thread

      By trinacriabob · Posted

      Good morning This is what I really wanted to share. That's what Californians do ... share. Maybe not museum grade, but it works well. I don't know if that's a Ford, an AMC, or an old Buick Skylark!
    • trinacriabob
      Random Thoughts Thread

      By trinacriabob · Posted

      Maybe I didn't use the right words.  It's overly supple and overly assisted in parking lots and when driving slowly on smaller streets.  It does not communicate much when there are lots of thick walls next to small roads and farms right beside me! After renting it, I read a review and it said that it doesn't corner or track very well, and that started getting annoying last night.   I drove a Citroen C3 here somewhere between 2019 and 2021. I believe I reviewed it.  First, I couldn't believe how smooth it was. It handled well in parking lots and was surprisingly smooth and agile on the highway, too.  It's not like you get two times the smoothness because the car costs two times as much. I have a friend who went for civil engineering at ASU.  He said that they used the same textbooks, for the most part, that they did at Berkeley.  So, with Berkeley being so much more prestigious, and with a much lower acceptance rate, it's not like you get two times a better civil engineering education there.  So my point is that for twice the money, the increase in drivability is not a ratable or linear relationship. I've come to see that the extra money in this BYD is all about the many bells and whistles that take about a week to learn. It's not that impressive on the highway and on rougher roads. I sort of like it on nicely asphalted urban streets at lower speeds and it has been getting respectable fuel mileage. I liked zooming around in that Citroen C3 with the side "Air Bump."  I had asked them for a smaller car instead and they told me that if it had to be automatic, it had to be this one.
    • G. David Felt
      Random Thoughts Thread

      By G. David Felt · Posted

      The part that is now bolded, Italicized and underlined, I am totally confused by. How can it be velvety and yet not as smooth as a C3? I get the disconnected road to cabin and no steering wheel communication at low speeds as it is a hybrid system so not a true drive by wire but also not a true traditional steering wheel system. Hydraulic with electric assist so that is a downside being very vague road feedback via the steering wheel.
    • trinacriabob
      Random Thoughts Thread

      By trinacriabob · Posted

      The "cute" little Nissan Versa fit that bill, surprising me via rentals that it was actually likeable, but production of it ended a few months ago. I was given this bloated BYD Seal SUV automatic last week and that's what I'm driving around Sicily in.  It's a HEV, so I don't push down too hard, and it sips fuel.  Except for its velvety and disconnected road to cabin and steering wheel communication at low speeds, I'm not so sure I like it.  Give me a smaller Citroen C3 with an automatic which is smaller and rides smoothly.
    • G. David Felt
      Random Thoughts Thread

      By G. David Felt · Posted

      Yes idiot47 has said the supreme court failed to be loyal to him. Moron!  

  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online

  • My Clubs

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.

Hey there, we noticed you're using an ad-blocker. We're a small site that is supported by ads or subscriptions. We rely on these to pay for server costs and vehicle reviews.  Please consider whitelisting us in your ad-blocker, or if you really like what you see, you can pick up one of our subscriptions for just $1.75 a month or $15 a year. It may not seem like a lot, but it goes a long way to help support real, honest content, that isn't generated by an AI bot.

See you out there.

Drew
Editor-in-Chief

I've whitelisted
Continue without support

Write what you are looking for and press enter or click the search icon to begin your search