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    Cadillac Says A Refreshed XTS Coming This Year, New Products Beginning In Second Half of 2018

      Cadillac has crossovers coming! But they won't be here till the second-half of 2018

    If there is one issue that is top of mind for various folks at Cadillac, it is the lack of crossovers. Their sedan-heavy lineup isn't doing them any favors in a marketplace crazy for crossovers and SUVs. The brand does have some breathing room thanks to increasing sales in China, but they know they need crossovers now.

    “It’s left us with the obvious difficulty. The core part of our volume lineup is in the market that’s contracting while we are unable, as good as XT5 and Escalade are, we are unable to fully exploit the updraft that’s taking place in the other half of the market,” said Cadillac President Johan de Nysschen to The Detroit News.

    The bad news is the first of a handful will not arrive till the second half of 2018 according to de Nysschen. The first is a model that will be smaller than the XT5, what we believe will be called the XT3. Some analysts believe the XT3 will be built at Fairfax Assembly Plant in Kansas City, Kansas. Then a full-size crossover slotted between the XT5 and Escalade will come next. We think this could be the sister model to the Chevrolet Traverse and Buick Enclave. Finally, de Nysschen hinted that an even smaller crossover could arrive after 2020.

    That doesn't mean Cadillac isn't working on their sedan lineup either. The XTS is expected to get a refresh later this year. Cadillac will also be launching a sedan to compete with the likes of the Audi A3 and Mercedes-Benz CLA in 2019. A coupe and convertible will join the sedan around the same time. de Nysschen explained the entry-level luxury marketplace is growing and the company wants a piece of it.

    Source: The Detroit News

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    Cmicasa the Great
    2 hours ago, balthazar said:

    Escalade : check.
    XT5 : check.
    'XT7' : check.
    XT4 : OK.

    XT3 or XT2 ?? No way. Leave the tiny cheap CUVs to mainstream brands. Like mercedes/ BMW/ Toyota/ Chevy/ Ford/ Nissan/ Ford.
    Cadillac doesn't need to spread their catalog into every vehicle segment out there, their volume doesn't support it and their goals don't need it.

    LOL...  U disrespected  Bitch Benz and Bastard BMW by calling them mainstream.  I love it.  PERSONALLY,  I feel the same thing about every vehicle either has that didn't exist before 2010

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    balthazar

    It's not a dis; it's the cold truth. There's no QUESTION Benz is mainstream- the only brands in the U.S. selling stripped refrigerator white cargo vans RIGHT NEXT to $100K plus vehicles is Benz and Chevy. They could have put up a 'perception wall' and called these cheap black plastic clad work boxes, you know; Freightliner, like they started out being but no; HAD to ride the image coattails, which only muddies the perception of the rest of the brand. ALL THEY DID was change the emblem- it's the penultimate 'badge-engineered' vehicle. 

    Thank God Cadillac has no plans on a Crest-adorned Chevy/Nissan cargo van. {shudder}

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    surreal1272
    13 hours ago, smk4565 said:

    Well  Cadillac is for sure getting versions of the Equinox and Traverse, that is already confirmed.  I'd like to see Alpha and/or Omega SUVs.  They could always do an XT9 or something above Escalade in the $125-175,000 space.  Tesla Range Rover, GLS, G, Cayenne are already there, you have Bentley and soon to be Rolls and Lamborghini above that.  BMW may have an X7 M with a V12 at $150k, that upper end market is filling up, but they wouldn't all go there if there wasn't profit to be had.

    Cadillac will not nor does it ever need an SUV/CUV above the Escalade. If this has to be explained again, then there is simply no helping you. Filling a small niche market (in this case, useless V12 CUVs) is just dumb. Finally, why are you bringing up Bentley and Rolls, two makes that even your Benz can't compete with 98% of the time (Maybach anyone?)? Talk about moving a bar that no one but you cares about.

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    ccap41
    1 hour ago, surreal1272 said:

    Cadillac will not nor does it ever need an SUV/CUV above the Escalade.

    Jumping in this convo right now...

    Why in the world would there need to be a vehicle LARGER than an Escalade on the roads or owned or anything? Who needs more space than an ESV has to offer? Isn't that like a Wal*mart in the back with seating for 17 1/2 adults or 58 midgets?

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    smk4565

    Not larger than an Escalade, more expensive.  Mercedes most expensive SUV is not their largest, Audi's Q8 is smaller than a Q7.   They could make some sort of V-series high performance 4 seat crossover that costs more than an Escalade.  Sort of the Corvette of SUVs if you will.  It could be electric even.  

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    G. David Felt
    3 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

    Cadillac will not nor does it ever need an SUV/CUV above the Escalade.

     

    2 hours ago, ccap41 said:

    Jumping in this convo right now...

    Why in the world would there need to be a vehicle LARGER than an Escalade on the roads or owned or anything? Who needs more space than an ESV has to offer? Isn't that like a Wal*mart in the back with seating for 17 1/2 adults or 58 midgets?

    Do you think SMK is talking about his Better than Anything Ancient G-Wagon that I think in his mind is better than the Escalade and above it due to price. 2017 G-Wagon starts at $110,000 and tops out at $220,400 in the AMG G65 version.

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    surreal1272
    2 hours ago, ccap41 said:

    Jumping in this convo right now...

    Why in the world would there need to be a vehicle LARGER than an Escalade on the roads or owned or anything? Who needs more space than an ESV has to offer? Isn't that like a Wal*mart in the back with seating for 17 1/2 adults or 58 midgets?

    What if I have 60 midgets? If it only carries 58 then that is a deal breaker for me. Get your act together Cadillac!!

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    G. David Felt
    22 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    Not larger than an Escalade, more expensive.  Mercedes most expensive SUV is not their largest, Audi's Q8 is smaller than a Q7.   They could make some sort of V-series high performance 4 seat crossover that costs more than an Escalade.  Sort of the Corvette of SUVs if you will.  It could be electric even.  

    That is being addressed with the V-Sport and V edition of the Escalade.

    No need for a smaller more expensive CUV/SUV. I hate even the thought. Escalade is the top dog in the lineup and it has room for the two mentioned versions. 

    That is not to say that an XT-9, 7, 5, 3 should not also have a V-Sport and V edition too.

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    ccap41
    2 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

    What if I have 60 midgets? If it only carries 58 then that is a deal breaker for me. Get your act together Cadillac!!

    Yeah they need a larger version so it can compete with the smaller G-Wagen(rolls eyes). One day, Cadillac... One day...

    I wonder how many CLAs can fit in 1 ESV?

    I should have addressed this part first.. WHY WOULD YOU HAVE 60 MIDGETS?!?!?

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    G. David Felt

    For Cadillac, I see the line up as follows:

    ATS = CT3

    CTS = CT5

    CT6, 7, 9 all in base trim, Luxury, Premium Luxury, Platinum, V-Sport & V editions. This would cover their 2 door coupes, 2 door convertibles, 4 door sedans.

    XT3, 5, 7, 9 all in base trim, Luxury, Premium Luxury, Platinum, V-Sport & V editions.

    Escalade in regular and ESV versions. All in base trim, Luxury, Premium Luxury, Platinum, V-Sport & V editions. 

    This is a complete Luxury Lineup with no need for sub compacts or ultra compacts or any other low end version. If someone wants that, Welcome to Buick!

    7 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    Yeah they need a larger version so it can compete with the smaller G-Wagen(rolls eyes). One day, Cadillac... One day...

    I wonder how many CLAs can fit in 1 ESV?

    I should have addressed this part first.. WHY WOULD YOU HAVE 60 MIDGETS?!?!?

    Under Trump, you have to have your cheap working staff!

    ^_^ Midgets, the new minority! :P

    I fully endorse this SARCASM and Non Politically Correct Comment!

    :roflmao: 

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    surreal1272
    19 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    Yeah they need a larger version so it can compete with the smaller G-Wagen(rolls eyes). One day, Cadillac... One day...

    I wonder how many CLAs can fit in 1 ESV?

    I should have addressed this part first.. WHY WOULD YOU HAVE 60 MIDGETS?!?!?

    Because midget help is half off. 

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    ccap41
    13 minutes ago, dfelt said:

    I fully endorse this SARCASM and Non Politically Correct Comment!

    Yeah overly PC stuff grinds my gears. Not much more to say about it..just a gear grinder.

     

    16 minutes ago, dfelt said:

    ATS = CT3

    CTS = CT5

    I know this is very likely but I don't like that they're using BMW's 3 & 5 for the same size vehicles. I wish they would have just used the alphabet like they have, A, C.. and go from there. Just go in order and don't skip around like Benz.

    ATS, BTS, CTS, DTS,

    SUVs cound end with an X

    ATX, BTX, CTX or vise versa... XTA, XTB, XTC,

    5 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

    Because midget help is half off. 

    HA!

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    surreal1272
    24 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    Yeah overly PC stuff grinds my gears. Not much more to say about it..just a gear grinder.

     

    I know this is very likely but I don't like that they're using BMW's 3 & 5 for the same size vehicles. I wish they would have just used the alphabet like they have, A, C.. and go from there. Just go in order and don't skip around like Benz.

    ATS, BTS, CTS, DTS,

    SUVs cound end with an X

    ATX, BTX, CTX or vise versa... XTA, XTB, XTC,

    HA!

    I can see it now. "Hey, can I get a good deal on that XTC?"

     

    Think about it lol. 

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    G. David Felt
    1 minute ago, surreal1272 said:

    I can see it now. "Hey, can I get a good deal on that XTC?"

     

    Think about it lol. 

    Arghhhhhh Alphabet soup just screws my brain over. So hate the whole naming thing be it numbers or letters.

    So I assume you mean this?

    • XTC (noun)

     

     

    Sense 1 XTC [BACK TO TOP]

     

    Meaning:

    Street names for methylenedioxymethamphetamine

    Classified under:

    Nouns denoting man-made objects

    Synonyms:

    cristal; disco biscuit; hug drug; XTC; go; Adam; ecstasy; X

    Hypernyms ("XTC" is a kind of...):

    MDMA; methylenedioxymethamphetamine (a stimulant drug that is chemically related to mescaline and amphetamine and is used illicitly for its euphoric and hallucinogenic effects; it was formerly used in psychotherapy but in 1985 it was declared illegal in the United States)

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    surreal1272
    Just now, dfelt said:

    Arghhhhhh Alphabet soup just screws my brain over. So hate the whole naming thing be it numbers or letters.

    So I assume you mean this?

    • XTC (noun)

     

     

    Sense 1 XTC [BACK TO TOP]

     

    Meaning:

    Street names for methylenedioxymethamphetamine

    Classified under:

    Nouns denoting man-made objects

    Synonyms:

    cristal; disco biscuit; hug drug; XTC; go; Adam; ecstasy; X

    Hypernyms ("XTC" is a kind of...):

    MDMA; methylenedioxymethamphetamine (a stimulant drug that is chemically related to mescaline and amphetamine and is used illicitly for its euphoric and hallucinogenic effects; it was formerly used in psychotherapy but in 1985 it was declared illegal in the United States)

    Yes sir! It was just too easy lol. 

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    ccap41
    2 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

    I can see it now. "Hey, can I get a good deal on that XTC?"

     

    Think about it lol. 

    LOL touché...

    2 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

    Yes sir! It was just too easy lol. 

    Honestly, I always thought it was spelled out "ecstasy" I had no clue it originated from XTC.

    Learning new things erryday.

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    Robert Hall
    On 2/2/2017 at 1:08 PM, dfelt said:

     

    No need for a smaller more expensive CUV/SUV. I hate even the thought. Escalade is the top dog in the lineup and it has room for the two mentioned versions.  

    They could do an extended wheelbase (maybe 145 inch?) Escalade ESV and call it the Fleetwood 75.. 

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