2016 Buick Cascada Priced At $33,990

A nice little runabout. Would be nice to have more than six speeds for mid-30 grand. But hunting bimmers ain't what this thing's all about.

Not sure standard 20 inch wheels is a good idea, 20's usually aren't the best for ride quality, especially on a smaller car, plus I bet the tires are expensive to replace.

They priced it higher than the Eos and that doesn't sell.  I think the Cascada looks better, but I probably would have priced it $2,000 lower than they did to line up with VW.  And some how I am guessing a Camaro convertible on a Cadillac Chassis with 335 hp will cost less than this Buick on a Chevy Cruze or Spark platform costs.  So could be a tough sell for Buick.

This isn't a new car. They've had it in Europe for a few years. It's not much of an enthusiast car, more of a Buick take on the VW Eos.

This is for women in their 40's and 50's that just want that drop top feel.

This is going to be a low volume car and just help fill the dealer showrooms till the rest of the new products are out. The first all new Buick is going to be the Lacrosse. I agree this is not a new car nor is it on a new platform.

Also it is not there to challenge a BMW. and all tires are expensive the 20" are no different but you can shop around and still find them reasonable compared to the other sizes. These will not be major performance tires so that will control the cost. Ride will be fine as it was designed for them and also is not a sports cars. Just have to use a little common sense when looking at this car.

I expect it will see 3 years and be replaced with a new car on a new platform.

Not sure standard 20 inch wheels is a good idea, 20's usually aren't the best for ride quality, especially on a smaller car, plus I bet the tires are expensive to replace.

 

They priced it higher than the Eos and that doesn't sell.  I think the Cascada looks better, but I probably would have priced it $2,000 lower than they did to line up with VW.  And some how I am guessing a Camaro convertible on a Cadillac Chassis with 335 hp will cost less than this Buick on a Chevy Cruze or Spark platform costs.  So could be a tough sell for Buick.

Actually its not priced higher than the defunct Eos. In fact, and I don't think anyone bothered to check, the PONTIAC G6 Convertible waaaaaaaaaaaaay back in 2007-2009 was coming in at GT 2dr Convertible  $29,150/$32,300

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That's a sharp little car. Not for me, but still sharp looking. 200hp/206tq sounds like it could be a little bit of fun for a smaller vehicle.

What size vehicle is this..? I assumed it was smaller but there really isn't anything on size. Is it more like a conv. Verano, sized?

 

Not sure standard 20 inch wheels is a good idea, 20's usually aren't the best for ride quality, especially on a smaller car, plus I bet the tires are expensive to replace.

 

They priced it higher than the Eos and that doesn't sell.  I think the Cascada looks better, but I probably would have priced it $2,000 lower than they did to line up with VW.  And some how I am guessing a Camaro convertible on a Cadillac Chassis with 335 hp will cost less than this Buick on a Chevy Cruze or Spark platform costs.  So could be a tough sell for Buick.

 

 

 

Actually its not priced higher than the defunct Eos. In fact, and I don't think anyone bothered to check, the PONTIAC G6 Convertible waaaaaaaaaaaaay back in 2007-2009 was coming in at GT 2dr Convertible  $29,150/$32,300.

 

I just went to VW's website and the EOS starts at $31,995. I won't get into standard equipment but it does indeed start at $31,995.

Not sure standard 20 inch wheels is a good idea, 20's usually aren't the best for ride quality, especially on a smaller car, plus I bet the tires are expensive to replace.

 

They priced it higher than the Eos and that doesn't sell.  I think the Cascada looks better, but I probably would have priced it $2,000 lower than they did to line up with VW.  And some how I am guessing a Camaro convertible on a Cadillac Chassis with 335 hp will cost less than this Buick on a Chevy Cruze or Spark platform costs.  So could be a tough sell for Buick.

I agree with the 20's thing.. People don't know what they are getting themselves into with rims that large. A cheap, junk tire will still run north of $200 on 20's. Or I should say, something I wouldn't put on my own vehicle or significant other's vehicle.

I just went to VW's website and the EOS starts at $31,995. I won't get into standard equipment but it does indeed start at $31,995.

 

First Go back and read the part where the $31,995 is before destination of $865 pushing the price to $32,860. No Back-Up Camera, 17 inch wheels, a 5 Inch Nav unit that looks like some one plastered a 3 year old's Leap Frog on the dash.. Come on. 

I then love the part if U click on the Asterisk

 

I just went to VW's website and the EOS starts at $31,995. I won't get into standard equipment but it does indeed start at $31,995.

 

 

 

First Go back and read the part where the $31,995 is before destination of $865 pushing the price to $32,860. No Back-Up Camera, 17 inch wheels, a 5 Inch Nav unit that looks like some one plastered a 3 year old's Leap Frog on the dash.. Come on. 

 

I then love the part if U click on the Asterisk

 

That isn't exactly how pricing works.. You can't just say it starts at a different price..when you add matching options to it.

I understand there are varying options on their starting prices but that just gives the customer more options. Yes, most will probably put the options on like the new Buick(which is probabl why it is priced the way it is) but that doesn't mean that the EOS doesn't start at $32,860(with destination) compared to $33,990.

 

 

I just went to VW's website and the EOS starts at $31,995. I won't get into standard equipment but it does indeed start at $31,995.

 

 

 

First Go back and read the part where the $31,995 is before destination of $865 pushing the price to $32,860. No Back-Up Camera, 17 inch wheels, a 5 Inch Nav unit that looks like some one plastered a 3 year old's Leap Frog on the dash.. Come on. 

 

I then love the part if U click on the Asterisk

 

That isn't exactly how pricing works.. You can't just say it starts at a different price..when you add matching options to it.

 

I understand there are varying options on their starting prices but that just gives the customer more options. Yes, most will probably put the options on like the new Buick(which is probabl why it is priced the way it is) but that doesn't mean that the EOS doesn't start at $32,860(with destination) compared to $33,990.

 

Dude the only thing U are correct on is that the POS VW comes in under the Buick in BASE form only.. on their website.. which every other place I check, including True Car comes up with these numbers:

MSRP: From $36,145

MPG: 22 city / 30 highway

Horsepower: 200 HP

Engine: 2.0L 4-cylinder

Configurations

Komfort Edition

$36,145

Final Edition

$39,545

Executive Edition

$42,745

I won't dispute any of that, at all. I was literally just talking base price.. Either way, I'd still buy the Buick over the V-Dub hands down. Both are chick cars..and both are about 5k more than I think they should be. I could not imagine spending 43k on a small convertible. But this is coming from somebody who doesn't like convertibles much...at all...

Sharp little car...very European in flavour.

Why is it that Im thinking that this car is 20 years too late?

Why is it that Im thinking that this car would have made an excellent Saturn...or even a nice early 2000s Oldsmobile but why is it that dont I like it has a 2016  Buick?

When I heard news of this last year, I was happy for Buick, but fast forward a year later with viewing it with Buick clothes on instead of Opel clothes, and Im in the least bit interested and kinda disappointed in it...

Maybe the Avenir is giving me thoughts of grandeur for Buick and maybe I need to settle down my expectations of Buick...

Or maybe...Buick should start getting with the program a little bit faster with products that make us salivate...this wont make anybody salivate...even the aforementioned ladies between the ages of 40-50. Because even those ladies...they probably salivate thinking about driving around in Bimmers...

The Eos is a weak seller, and it seems like for a couple years they have been saying they were dropping it altogether.  That is why I think mid $30s for a compact Buick convertible is a hard sell and it won't find a lot of buyers.  Luckily for Buick there are very few convertibles on the market.

The 20" wheels look low profile too.  I have 18" low profile tires on my car, and Hankooks on tire rack were still around $200 per tire. I have seen some 20" tires at $300 each.  This isn't an enthusiast car, I don't know if the Buick buyer wants to spend $1,200 for new tires.

This is for women in their 40's and 50's that just want that drop top feel.

This is going to be a low volume car and just help fill the dealer showrooms till the rest of the new products are out. The first all new Buick is going to be the Lacrosse. I agree this is not a new car nor is it on a new platform.

 

Also it is not there to challenge a BMW. and all tires are expensive the 20" are no different but you can shop around and still find them reasonable compared to the other sizes. These will not be major performance tires so that will control the cost. Ride will be fine as it was designed for them and also is not a sports cars. Just have to use a little common sense when looking at this car.

I expect it will see 3 years and be replaced with a new car on a new platform.

seems a bit expensive to me.

I think at that price 250/250 power would be nice.

If Buick just wants to 'round out the showroom' then why haven't we gotten the Astra coupe plus OPX, the Adam, and the Astra hatch and wagon?

This is for women in their 40's and 50's that just want that drop top feel.

This is going to be a low volume car and just help fill the dealer showrooms till the rest of the new products are out. The first all new Buick is going to be the Lacrosse. I agree this is not a new car nor is it on a new platform.

 

Also it is not there to challenge a BMW. and all tires are expensive the 20" are no different but you can shop around and still find them reasonable compared to the other sizes. These will not be major performance tires so that will control the cost. Ride will be fine as it was designed for them and also is not a sports cars. Just have to use a little common sense when looking at this car.

I expect it will see 3 years and be replaced with a new car on a new platform.

seems a bit expensive to me.

 

I think at that price 250/250 power would be nice.

 

If Buick just wants to 'round out the showroom' then why haven't we gotten the Astra coupe plus OPX, the Adam, and the Astra hatch and wagon?

Simple for several reasons.

One GM's Major investments were going into Chevy first and then Cadillac. Not to mention other global projects. No not even GM can do it all at once.

Second most of the Opel's were on older platforms and bringing in all these other cars just were not needed at this time. Buick is making money with the SUV/CUV and the two cars for now also supported with China. Add to this most of the dealers themselves are also a GMC dealer or a combination of Chevy, Cadillac.

Third the wagon at this point is a nice add on but no where close to a foundation model neither were a Coupe Or the OPC. You do understand how much the Euro version of the OPC cars cost there. They are much more than what we have seen in the GS here. You think you can afford the Convertible.

Fourth GM was in the process of deciding what to do with Opel's post Chevys pull out and with the additional load of working with Holden/Opel/Buick. Lets face it that not too long ago Opel's future had been in question with some at GM and nothing was for sure. Had Chevy taken off they may have really been at risk.

Finally this is not all that expensive in the market anymore, In fact it is below the average market selling price. Even the average used car is now pushing $18K per an article I read the other day. They are too expensive for all of us but that is the price you will pay. If you want cheaper buy a Chevy or wait till it is used those will always be options. You could get a Turbo Camaro Convertible for a similar price I will wager.

To me this car is a better G6 Convertible with no hard top. It will drive better and has better features but it is an old car. With each new platform we will get all new Opel's, Holden's and Buicks over the next 5 years and it will change the face of the company as GM has with Chevy and Cadillac.

Like I say this is big picture and today with the global market and the cost of development you have to space things out till the timing is right for several divisions and for the money to be available to work on each program. While it may have been nice to do a limited run of the OPC. Wagon, and Coupe their lives would have been short and volumes low. That money would be better spent to finish the next Lacrosse, Regal and Avinir.

To be honest this car is not really needed but it will help the image some and offer something GM really lacks in the states right not a convertible.

The Eos is a weak seller, and it seems like for a couple years they have been saying they were dropping it altogether.  That is why I think mid $30s for a compact Buick convertible is a hard sell and it won't find a lot of buyers.  Luckily for Buick there are very few convertibles on the market.

 

The 20" wheels look low profile too.  I have 18" low profile tires on my car, and Hankooks on tire rack were still around $200 per tire. I have seen some 20" tires at $300 each.  This isn't an enthusiast car, I don't know if the Buick buyer wants to spend $1,200 for new tires.

Not all 20" tires are this much. Also these will not be high speed rated tires as this is where the cost comes in.

You do understand that speed rated tires use more expensive materials and also have to be perfect in Q-A. The margin of defect is very low on them as they have to be for liability. This leads to more tires being rejected and added cost.

Yes companies like Michelin and Goodyear X Ray each speed rated tire to check the construction for defects. Tires are still a hand made product and while consistency has improved it can still vary some.

But with that said I just paid $90 for 18" inch Eagles not long ago and $175 for 19" triple tread Goodyear Assurance tires not long ago. Making good use of sales and rebates can make these a lot cheaper. The days of the $50 tires are long over.

Add things like Carbon fiber an Kevlar to a Z rated compound tire and then your prices go up fast. This is why there are 72 different kinds of Pilots and Eagles offered. You match them to the need of the car. A Buick like this will not need the same kind of 20" a Z06 will require.

Best thing for the health of the buick brand would have been to have a mid sized crossover in the showroom by now since Buick's demographic would rather have CUV's now. Where is the money for that then?

This is for women in their 40's and 50's that just want that drop top feel.This is going to be a low volume car and just help fill the dealer showrooms till the rest of the new products are out. The first all new Buick is going to be the Lacrosse. I agree this is not a new car nor is it on a new platform. Also it is not there to challenge a BMW. and all tires are expensive the 20" are no different but you can shop around and still find them reasonable compared to the other sizes. These will not be major performance tires so that will control the cost. Ride will be fine as it was designed for them and also is not a sports cars. Just have to use a little common sense when looking at this car.I expect it will see 3 years and be replaced with a new car on a new platform.

seems a bit expensive to me. I think at that price 250/250 power would be nice. If Buick just wants to 'round out the showroom' then why haven't we gotten the Astra coupe plus OPX, the Adam, and the Astra hatch and wagon?

Simple for several reasons.One GM's Major investments were going into Chevy first and then Cadillac. Not to mention other global projects. No not even GM can do it all at once.Second most of the Opel's were on older platforms and bringing in all these other cars just were not needed at this time. Buick is making money with the SUV/CUV and the two cars for now also supported with China. Add to this most of the dealers themselves are also a GMC dealer or a combination of Chevy, Cadillac.Third the wagon at this point is a nice add on but no where close to a foundation model neither were a Coupe Or the OPC. You do understand how much the Euro version of the OPC cars cost there. They are much more than what we have seen in the GS here. You think you can afford the Convertible.Fourth GM was in the process of deciding what to do with Opel's post Chevys pull out and with the additional load of working with Holden/Opel/Buick. Lets face it that not too long ago Opel's future had been in question with some at GM and nothing was for sure. Had Chevy taken off they may have really been at risk.Finally this is not all that expensive in the market anymore, In fact it is below the average market selling price. Even the average used car is now pushing $18K per an article I read the other day. They are too expensive for all of us but that is the price you will pay. If you want cheaper buy a Chevy or wait till it is used those will always be options. You could get a Turbo Camaro Convertible for a similar price I will wager.To me this car is a better G6 Convertible with no hard top. It will drive better and has better features but it is an old car. With each new platform we will get all new Opel's, Holden's and Buicks over the next 5 years and it will change the face of the company as GM has with Chevy and Cadillac.Like I say this is big picture and today with the global market and the cost of development you have to space things out till the timing is right for several divisions and for the money to be available to work on each program. While it may have been nice to do a limited run of the OPC. Wagon, and Coupe their lives would have been short and volumes low. That money would be better spent to finish the next Lacrosse, Regal and Avinir.To be honest this car is not really needed but it will help the image some and offer something GM really lacks in the states right not a convertible.

Reg, I think they need both, but that little CUV is doing pretty well.....

Best thing for the health of the buick brand would have been to have a mid sized crossover in the showroom by now since Buick's demographic would rather have CUV's now. Where is the money for that then?

This is for women in their 40's and 50's that just want that drop top feel.This is going to be a low volume car and just help fill the dealer showrooms till the rest of the new products are out. The first all new Buick is going to be the Lacrosse. I agree this is not a new car nor is it on a new platform. Also it is not there to challenge a BMW. and all tires are expensive the 20" are no different but you can shop around and still find them reasonable compared to the other sizes. These will not be major performance tires so that will control the cost. Ride will be fine as it was designed for them and also is not a sports cars. Just have to use a little common sense when looking at this car.I expect it will see 3 years and be replaced with a new car on a new platform.

seems a bit expensive to me. I think at that price 250/250 power would be nice. If Buick just wants to 'round out the showroom' then why haven't we gotten the Astra coupe plus OPX, the Adam, and the Astra hatch and wagon?

Simple for several reasons.One GM's Major investments were going into Chevy first and then Cadillac. Not to mention other global projects. No not even GM can do it all at once.Second most of the Opel's were on older platforms and bringing in all these other cars just were not needed at this time. Buick is making money with the SUV/CUV and the two cars for now also supported with China. Add to this most of the dealers themselves are also a GMC dealer or a combination of Chevy, Cadillac.Third the wagon at this point is a nice add on but no where close to a foundation model neither were a Coupe Or the OPC. You do understand how much the Euro version of the OPC cars cost there. They are much more than what we have seen in the GS here. You think you can afford the Convertible.Fourth GM was in the process of deciding what to do with Opel's post Chevys pull out and with the additional load of working with Holden/Opel/Buick. Lets face it that not too long ago Opel's future had been in question with some at GM and nothing was for sure. Had Chevy taken off they may have really been at risk.Finally this is not all that expensive in the market anymore, In fact it is below the average market selling price. Even the average used car is now pushing $18K per an article I read the other day. They are too expensive for all of us but that is the price you will pay. If you want cheaper buy a Chevy or wait till it is used those will always be options. You could get a Turbo Camaro Convertible for a similar price I will wager.To me this car is a better G6 Convertible with no hard top. It will drive better and has better features but it is an old car. With each new platform we will get all new Opel's, Holden's and Buicks over the next 5 years and it will change the face of the company as GM has with Chevy and Cadillac.Like I say this is big picture and today with the global market and the cost of development you have to space things out till the timing is right for several divisions and for the money to be available to work on each program. While it may have been nice to do a limited run of the OPC. Wagon, and Coupe their lives would have been short and volumes low. That money would be better spent to finish the next Lacrosse, Regal and Avinir.To be honest this car is not really needed but it will help the image some and offer something GM really lacks in the states right not a convertible.

If we are to believe what the word is there are two SUV's coming and one is mid sized. But with GMC you have to so this right as why would you need a Terrain and the Buick version in the same dealer? You have to make the different in some way as they generally occupy the same space.

I have wondered if the Buick we have seen will be a short wheel base like the coming Nox and the GMC may share a long wheel base with the Cadillac we just saw released.

Also this is not about money it is about having the platform. GM has just finished the new platform these models ride on and it is just going into production with staggered starts fro each model at several plants.

As for a little larger SUV there is another one of these but we have yet to see it as it is still being worked on and also we have a new Enclave coming.

This all falls into place it you take the timing of the models and the associated platforms. There are billions of dollars being spent and a large amount of GM staff assigned to this so it takes time and money. They also are coming off several Chevy programs that are just being launched as well the funding from these programs being moved to the next project.

I like the product on its own, but it's positioning seems a little iffy. Sure, it takes up a market all to itself, and it beats rivals current and defunct handily, mostly because of its pretty good value proposition.

But I don't know if the appeal of a Mustang and Camaro convertible is lost onto this model. 

My impression is the Buick will feel more upscale than the EOS.

Think of the Cascada as a Buick Verano Convertible 

But a Buick Verano isn't an upscale car. I would rather pay $35k for a Regal convertible, which would be a $5k premium over the sedan. If the Cascara was Regal based it would be a good deal as it is priced. But the Camry and 200 based convertibles that were larger and cheaper than the Cascara failed. And I think that is the type of buyer Buick is after.

But a Buick Verano isn't an upscale car. I would rather pay $35k for a Regal convertible, which would be a $5k premium over the sedan. If the Cascara was Regal based it would be a good deal as it is priced. But the Camry and 200 based convertibles that were larger and cheaper than the Cascara failed. And I think that is the type of buyer Buick is after.

Again, you attribute failures of those two to the brand rather than to the content of the car.  The old Sebring/200 was an atrociously bad car, convertible or not.  The Camry convertible was an aftermarket conversion on a flabby chassis. 

The Verano has sold quite well as a premium car above similar cars of it's size.   When you think about it, Verano buyers are paying $26k - $28k for something in the Cruze size range.   This is going by Buick's claim that their cars tend to sell more in the higher trims.   

And, aside from it's age, the Verano is quite a capable vehicle. 

Yes the Verano was pegged as a more upscale car below Cadillac and above Chevy. The convertible is about what you would expect for a car this size.

The car is almost the size f what a Regal coupe would have been.

The main deal is that this was an Opel that could easily and at a lower cost could be plugged in at a price where they could make a profit at lower volume. The added volume may also help Opel too.

This car is in it's last years and will be replace I expect in 2-3 years. Same for the Regal so we are not going to see total brand new products till they replace the Verano and Regal first.

Note when you look at most Verano's they have mostly loaded interiors and leather. Many have the larger engines and upgraded trims. Sales were ok till the Encore came out and I think it had more impact on their sales than anything.

My impression is the Buick will feel more upscale than the EOS.

 

Think of the Cascada as a Buick Verano Convertible

Sounds about right to me. Folks in Florida and Cali will love it. A bit more snug than the old G6 droptops but still fine for the purpose.

GM really dropped the ball on getting buick a crossover to compete the edge etc. the edge has been around since 07 or 08. I don't care if they have had a terrain or not. Buyers in the 40-70 demographic all they have in the buick showrooms is a regal and lacrosse. Older buyers are moving to CUV's in droves. Gm is late to the game they just think everyone wants an enclave and they got lucky with the encore.

The Encore is not luck...GM/Buick saw a niche in the making and decided to dip into it...and Buick had nothing to lose....like you said...all Buick had was the Enclave in the SUV/CUV market...and noticed that other small CUV type vehicles from other makes  were selling not too shabby, so GM/Buick took a relatively risk free bet...

One thing I'm concerned about:  Unless I'm mistaken, the ONLY audio systems available have Buick's 7-speaker "premium" speakers.  I have those.  They're in my LaCrosse.  They're definitely nothing to write home about.  And that's with an extremely quiet car and the windows up.  How are you going to pump the tunes with the top down?  It'll sound like crap.

One thing I'm concerned about:  Unless I'm mistaken, the ONLY audio systems available have Buick's 7-speaker "premium" speakers.  I have those.  They're in my LaCrosse.  They're definitely nothing to write home about.  And that's with an extremely quiet car and the windows up.  How are you going to pump the tunes with the top down?  It'll sound like crap.

Agree, GM needs to step up their game with a superior sound system across the board for all auto lines.

 

One thing I'm concerned about:  Unless I'm mistaken, the ONLY audio systems available have Buick's 7-speaker "premium" speakers.  I have those.  They're in my LaCrosse.  They're definitely nothing to write home about.  And that's with an extremely quiet car and the windows up.  How are you going to pump the tunes with the top down?  It'll sound like crap.

Agree, GM needs to step up their game with a superior sound system across the board for all auto lines.

 

I just don't understand how they can call their 7 speakers "premium" when they are outpowered by a set of 6 speakers in a 2006 Sonata...

I've been in a few other brands cars with bose systems lately and they do not impress. I'm afraid you're probably right Paul

car might be a dud, but Ellie Kemper is a freakin delight, sometimes its more about the marketing,

http://www.carscoops.com/2016/01/actress-ellie-kemper-stars-in-cascada.html