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    2016 BMW X1 - The First Front-Wheel Drive BMW For the U.S.

      When BMW Goes FWD For The U.S.


    BMW has pulled the covers off the 2016 X1 crossover that will go on sale this fall in the U.S. While the X1 was sold in other markets since 2009, it only came to the U.S. in 2012.

     

    Lets talk about the elephant in the room. This is the first BMW to be sold in the U.S. to be based on the German automaker's UKL platform that underpins the new MINI Cooper and other BMW vehicles sold in Europe. Our X1 will only come in all-wheel drive form.

     

    Power will come from the 2.0L TwinPower Turbo four-cylinder generating 228 horsepower and 258 pound-feet of torque. An eight-speed automatic gets the power to all four wheels.

     

    The design is heavily influenced by the X5 with a similar shape and distinctive character line running through the door handles. Inside is completely changed with a center stack that is in line with current BMWs - including a large screen ranging from 6.5 to 8-inches. Passengers will notice an increase in head and legroom.

     

    No word on pricing at this time.

     

    Source: BMW

     

     

    Press Release is on Page 2


     

    Woodcliff Lake, N.J. – EMBARGO: June 2, 2015 – 6:00pm EDT/3:00pm PDT… Today, BMW announced the all-new BMW X1 Sports Activity Vehicle. In its second generation, the new MY 2016 BMW X1 builds on the success of its predecessor (61,974 sold in the US to date) by incorporating a roomier interior, greater efficiency and technology on the forefront of innovation. The second generation takes to the stage with a body design typical of a BMW Sports Activity Vehicle. The BMW X1 xDrive28i will be the exclusive model in the US at launch featuring a 2.0-liter TwinTurbo 4-cylinder engine from BMW’s new family of modular engines with maximum output of 228 horsepower, making the all new BMW X1 the most powerful entry model in the segment. It will be mounted to an 8-speed Steptronic automatic transmission. An efficiency-optimized version of the BMW xDrive intelligent all-wheel-drive system and newly developed chassis technology all help to enhance sporting ability and ride comfort compared to the outgoing model. The all new BMW X1 also showcases its exceptional versatility with increased cargo area and greater interior room with more headroom than before. The 2016 BMW X1 xDrive28i will arrive in US showrooms in Fall 2015.

     

    Its cutting-edge premium ambience and functionality ensure the BMW X1 will stay ahead of the competition. Alongside its market-leading dynamics and efficiency, a host of innovative equipment features also help to secure the all new BMW X1 position in the class. Among the items on the options list are full-LED adaptive headlights, BMW Head-Up Display and Driver Assistance Plus.

     

    Greatest interior roominess and versatility in its class
    The all new BMW X1 is defined by its cutting-edge vehicle concept and advancements in the areas of functionality, safety and comfort. This multitalented model not only boasts more space for passengers and luggage, it also offers additional flexibility when it comes to utilizing its load-carrying capacity. Extensive standard equipment and numerous attractive options underline the premium character of the compact BMW Sports Activity Vehicle.

     

    Merging functionality and versatility, the BMW X1 is the roomiest vehicle in its class. The overall interior room and comfort of the all new BMW X1 treat passengers to additional head and legroom. The horizontal surface design in the interior, create generous levels of space and an ambience typical of a BMW Sports Activity Vehicle. Power front seats are now standard and provide a seating position raised by more than one inch in the front and more than 2.5 inches in the rear when compared to its predecessor. Leg room in the rear has increased by 1.5 inches in standard specification and by up to 2.6 inches with the optionally adjustable rear seat while accessible storage areas like the compartment in front of the shifter emphasize the versatile character of all new BMW X1.

     

    The driver focused cockpit and generously sized surfaces define the interior of the new BMW X1 as a classic Sports Activity Vehicle. The flat surfaces of the instrument panel and center console controls all angled towards the driver aim to help and maintain control over the surroundings at all times regardless of changing road conditions
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    The rear seatback can be split 40:20:40, with the three sections folding down individually or jointly. An optional sliding and reclining rear bench with individual elements that can slide forward or back by up to five inches allowing seating comfort and storage capacity to be adjusted even more precisely. The tilt angle for the rear-seat backrest can also be adjusted when fitted with the optional equipment seats and ranges from 31 degrees all the way to a near-vertical cargo position of 1 degree. A power-folding feature enables the rear seats to be folded at the touch of a button inside the luggage compartment. Cargo space has been increased by more than 15 percent (based on European measurements) allowing plenty of storage practicality.

     

    The standard automatic tailgate operation makes using the X1’s load-carrying capacity even easier, and Comfort Access, offered as part of the Premium Package also includes a hands-free tailgate opening and closing function.

     

    The passenger compartment of the all new BMW X1 has large door pockets and offers a selection of smaller storage areas. A storage compartment is integrated into the instrument panel on the driver’s side. Positioned in front of the gearshift selector lever in the center console beneath a sliding cover are two cupholders. The front armrest for the driver and front passenger includes an integrated storage compartment. The standard storage package includes features such as nets in the backrest of the driver and the front passenger seat and a central armrest with cupholders for the rear adding to the new X1’s storage offerings. Safe transportation of goods is assured with a strap and net in the trunk.

     

    Attractive equipment variants and exclusive comfort-enhancing options
    Customers can choose between two non-metallic and nine metallic exterior paint finishes, allowing them to tailor their new BMW X1 to their individual tastes. Estoril Blue metallic is exclusively offered in combination with the M Sport package. Mirroring brand specific characteristics, the new BMW X1 offers a broad range of individualization. The M Sport package, available later this year, provides a sportier, quicker and slicker look and feel thanks to the 8-speed Sport Automatic transmission featuring steering wheel-mounted paddle shifters supported by M Steering Wheel and M Sport suspension and Sport Seats.

     

    The Premium Package highlights once more BMW core attributes achieving an even higher look and feel of quality. The optional panoramic moonroof, increased in size compared to the outgoing model, underlines the roominess of the vehicle’s interior whereas the full LED headlights, both available with the Premium Package, highlight a strong and powerful stance on the road.

     

    Standard equipment also includes front fog-lamps, alarm with remote-controlled central locking and keyless engine ignition, electric window controls, electrically adjustable and heated exterior mirrors, a multifunction leather steering wheel adjustable for height and reach, a rain sensor including automatic headlight control and Dynamic Cruise Control.

     

    Commanding presence, robust proportions, dynamic lines
    The signature BMW X model design cues shape the all new BMW X1, while the height has been increased by an additional 1.7 inches, for a robust stance in all driving situations. The large, upright BMW kidney grille, lower air intake done in three sections and characteristic “six-eyed” looked formed by the twin round headlights and fog lamps give the new BMW X1 its distinctive face. Emphasizing the bold look of the new BMW X1, LED Daytime Running Lights are now standard with LED headlights available in conjunction with the Premium Package.

     

    Flared wheel arches and lines converge in an X-shape into the kidney grille, contributing to the authoritative presence of the new BMW X1. Black borders on the lower edge of the body, the square contour of the wheel cutouts and the generous volume of the surfaces above them, all underline the solid statute of the compact BMW X-models. The center of the new BMW X1’s rear apron rises up significantly, mimicking the characteristic element of the front design. Their flat outline emphasizes the width of the rear end, with the vertically arranged black aeroblades which perfectly mirrors the roof spoiler, adding sporting accents.

     

    The all new BMW X1 offers standard 18-inch run-flat all-season tires with non-run-flat all seasons and a space saver spare available as a no-cost option for the first time. Our sport oriented customers can chose 19-inch run-flat performance tires as optional equipment.

     

    The interior offers harmonious balance between driver focus and elegance befitting the classic style of a BMW Sports Activity Vehicle. The flat surfaces of the instrument panel and center console controls angled towards the driver providing great overview inside and outside the vehicle. The controls located in the lower section of the center console are surrounded by high-quality surfaces and are with a newly designed trim accent bar. The instrument cluster, consisting of two circular instruments and framed by a small binnacle, also helps the driver to focus on driving.

     

    The iDrive operating system’s Control Display comes in the form of a high resolution 6.5-inch or, optionally, 8.8-inch freestanding monitor. The interior trim accent and air vents are surrounded by an interior trim spanning the full width of the instrument panel. The interior trim and accent strip extend through the door panel trim, with the effect that occupants in all seats are surrounded by premium surfaces with a uniform material and color structure.

     

    Other standard interior features include: Power front seats with driver-side memory, Anthracite headliner, storage package and multifunction sport leather steering wheel. Standard equipment for the new BMW X1 also includes an all-new SensaTec seat surface available in both Black and Canberra Beige and a Black high-gloss interior trim with Pearl chrome accent strips. Perforated Dakota leather trim is available in Black, Canberra Beige, Mocha, and Oyster as are interior Brushed Aluminum and fine-wood matt Oak Grain and Fineline Stream interior trims.

     

    The standard sound system with 7 loudspeakers provides high quality audio. The optional Harman Kardon HiFi system, complete with 12 loudspeakers and a digital amplifier with 360-watt output, provide an outstanding audio experience while on the road.

     

    Powertrain and driving experience
    The second generation BMW X1 uses an all-new powertrain and chassis technology to build systematically on the compact BMW X model’s versatile sporting ability in its segment. The newly developed chassis technology, which ensures not only precisely controllable handling, but also noticeably improved ride comfort is another key factor that further enhances agility on the all new BMW X1. Together with the car’s low center of gravity, a wide track, short overhangs, optimized weight and the impressive rigidity of the body and chassis, all contribute to lay the foundation for a driving experience familiar to BMW drivers but without parallel in the class.

     

    Highest power in it’s class
    The all new BMW X1 will be available from launch with an all-new 2.0-liter BMW TwinPower Turbo engine featuring a twin-tailpipe design that draws further attention to the sporty character of the all new BMW X1. The BMW X1 xDrive28i features BMW’s new modular BMW EfficientDynamics engine, a 2.0-liter TwinPower Turbo 4-cylinder unit with a TwinScroll turbocharger, High Precision Injection, VALVETRONIC fully variable valve lift, and Double-VANOS variable camshaft timing. This powerful engine develops 228 hp at 5,000 rpm, representing the highest power output in the entry model class and thanks to BMW’s EfficientDynamics technology. The peak torque of 258 lb-ft, which is available between 1,250 rpm and 4,500 rpm ensures once again that the driving torque is effortlessly and instantly delivered for a dynamic and agile driving experience. Its instantaneous pulling power enables acceleration of 0 to 60 mph in 6.3 seconds. The new BMW X1 xDrive28i CO2 emissions stand at 152– 49 grams per kilometer (in the EU test cycle, depending on the tire format specified). US EPA mileage estimates will be available closer to launch.

     

    Flexible, quick to respond and more efficient than ever: the xDrive intelligent all-wheel-drive system in the new BMW X1
    The compact, low-weight and efficient all-wheel-drive system distributes the engine’s power between the front and rear axle exactly as the situation requires – at all times. Working closely with DSC (Dynamic Stability Control) allows the system to act preemptively to counteract any tendency on the car’s towards oversteer or understeer. The BMW xDrive system therefore ensures excellent traction, optimized directional stability and enhanced cornering dynamics in all weather and road conditions. Furthermore, the combination of the DSC system and xDrive also includes Hill Descent Control.

     

    The xDrive system of the all new BMW X1 consists of a single-speed bevel gear and a rear-axle drive unit with an electrohydraulically controlled multi-plate clutch than controls longitudinal torque distribution. The two are connected by a two-piece drive shaft. When required, the multi-plate clutch – with the help of an electrohydraulic pump – diverts up to 100 percent of the engine’s power to the rear wheels. It does so in less than 250 ms and unnoticed by the driver. The DSC system keeps the pump’s control unit constantly supplied with important data for analyzing the driving situation. The data includes the vehicle’s speed, lateral and longitudinal acceleration, steering lock, wheel-speed, pitch, accelerator position and the Driving Dynamic Control and DSC settings. This information is used to determine – and instantly generate – the ideal power split between the front and rear wheels, seamlessly and flexibly.

     

    A recipe for enthralling agility: sophisticated chassis technology
    The chassis technology of the original X1 has been totally redeveloped for the new model with aluminum wheel hubs, as well as axle carriers and control arms made from high-strength steel, reduce weight and increase the rigidity of the front axle, which in turn helps to ensure an agile turn-in response and direction-changing precision. The rear axle also employs a high proportion of high-strength steels. Tube-shaped anti-roll bars at the front and rear axle, innovative axle mounting and specially tuned elastokinematics contribute to the agility and ride comfort of the all new BMW X1, as do the connection of the dampers to the body via sophisticated three-way support mounts.

     

    The all new BMW X1 is equipped with standard Servotronic speed-sensitive steering assistance. This system allows parking and turning maneuvers to be completed safely and comfortably with little steering effort, and at higher speeds drivers can also benefit from steering precision and straight line stability as the steering effort is increased just the right amount.

     

    The Driving Dynamic Control switch on the center console allows the driver to give the car’s set-up an even sportier, more comfort-oriented or efficiency-optimized character. Calling up COMFORT, SPORT or ECO PRO mode at the touch of a button adapts the responses of the accelerator pedal and steering as well as shift characteristics of the automatic transmission are also adjusted if the relevant equipment has been specified.

     

    The Dynamic Stability Control stability system includes features such as the Anti-lock Braking System (ABS), Dynamic Traction Control (DTC), Cornering Brake Control (CBC), Dynamic Brake Control (DBC), Brake Assist system, Brake Fade Compensation, Brake Drying Braking and Start-Off Assistant and Performance Control. When DSC is deactivated, an electronic locking function for the front axle differential – known as Electronic Differential Lock Control (EDLC) – comes into play. In tight corners the system brakes a spinning wheel as required and ensures power is diverted to the other wheel.

     

    The enhanced functional effectiveness of all powertrain components, intelligent energy management, the rigorous application of BMW Lightweight technology and far-reaching measures designed to optimize aerodynamics all play a role in enhancing the efficiency of the all new, second generation BMW X1. The innovations developed under the BMW EfficientDynamics umbrella delivers greater driving pleasure.

     

    Optimized exterior design
    The all new BMW X1 also has smooth underbody paneling, air deflectors on the front wheel arches and vertical aeroblades, which form a unit with the roof spoiler to channel the airflow around the rear of the car to best effect. The Air Curtains integrated into the outer air intakes channel the onrushing air precisely behind the front fenders causing it to hang over the wheels like a curtain and thus reduce turbulence.

     

    Engine, gearbox and BMW xDrive: lower weight, improved efficiency
    The engine in the BMW X1 xDrive28i benefits from the latest incarnation of BMW TwinPower Turbo technology with TwinScroll turbocharger and the most recently updated generation of VALVETRONIC. This latest 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine incorporates aluminum crankcase and cylinder head, forged steel crankshafts with an integrated balance shaft drive, low-weight pistons, forged connecting rods, friction-reduced cylinder coatings and map-controlled oil pumps.

     

    With the reduced weight and enhanced internal efficiency, the new 8-speed Steptronic transmission also helps to optimize efficiency. The reduced converter slip of the new automatic transmission cuts energy losses, and its wider gear spread keeps revs lower at higher vehicle speeds contributing to the reduced emissions.

     

    The BMW xDrive intelligent all-wheel-drive system developed for the new BMW X1 is considerably lighter with powertrain losses that are reduced by 30 percent in normal driving situations .The improved functional effectiveness of the new rear differential also helps to deliver a particularly efficient all-wheel-drive experience.

     

    Intelligent energy management, ECO PRO mode with coasting function
    The BMW EfficientDynamics technology employed in the new BMW X1 includes intelligent energy management. Brake Energy Regeneration enables extremely efficient power generation for the on-board power supply. The Electric Power Steering and on-demand fuel and coolant pumps work with maximum efficiency.

     

    ECO PRO mode – activated via the Driving Dynamics Control switch – also allows drivers of new BMW X1 to make use of the coasting function. At speeds between 30-100 mph, the powertrain is disengaged when the driver takes his or her foot off the accelerator. Further efficiency gains have been achieved with items including reduced-friction wheel bearings.

     

    BMW EfficientLightweight technology ensuring efficiency
    The enhanced functional effectiveness of all powertrain components, intelligent energy management, BMW Lightweight technology and measures designed to optimize aerodynamics all play a role in ensuring that the new BMW X1 it is significantly more efficient. The innovations developed under the BMW EfficientDynamics banner form an overall package that delivers greater and more efficient driving pleasure.

     

    An intelligent mix of materials for the body structure and chassis components of the new BMW X1 allows increased agility, lower vibrations and enhanced safety to be combined with optimized vehicle weight. The targeted use of hot-stamped, high and ultra-high tensile steels reduces the weight of the X1 yet also significantly improves torsional rigidity and strength. Contributing to the Lightweight construction of the BMW X1, components like the hood, the bumper supports and wheel hubs – among other areas of the car – are made of aluminum.

     

    The weight of the chassis has been reduced by the deployment of components such as tube-shaped anti-roll bars, output shafts and damper piston rods, not to mention the increased use of aluminum. The integrated BMW EfficientLightweight concept also contains solutions for construction details, such as the production of steel with optimized material strength – in the form of tailored rolled blanks – for the front bulkhead and B-pillar support beams.

     

    BMW ConnectedDrive: Progress through intelligent connectivity
    The second generation BMW X1 also brings significant advances in the field of intelligent connectivity over its predecessor. The new selection of options designed to optimize comfort; safety and the use of infotainment functions, such as the Head-Up Display, take their cues from those available from other BMW Sports Activity Vehicles.

     

    BMW ConnectedDrive features on the new BMW X1 now include the newest BMW Head-Up Display which projects driving-related activities directly onto the windshield. The optional high-resolution 8.8-inch Control Display with touchpad controller will host BMW Online, BMW Apps, Remote Services and provide Advanced Real-Time Traffic Information. As an option, a high-resolution 6.5” screen navigation with BMW Online, BMW Apps, Remote Services, Advanced Real Time Traffic Information is also available. By adding to the functionality of the infotainment system the new BMW X1 allows for increased safety by simultaneously providing greater comfort, all based on user selection.

     

    Technology Package including BMW Head-Up Display
    The Navigation option assists route guidance on the standard Control Display with direction arrows and sophisticated map graphics, including views from various angles. With the standard multifunction steering wheel, the destination can also be entered by voice command. Another, in many respects pioneering option is the Navigation system, which comprises a bigger 8.8-inch Control Display, an instrument cluster with extended features, including a split-screen function as well as the BMW Head-Up Display. This system allows High Guidance instructions including lane recommendations to be shown in the instrument cluster’s TFT display or projected onto the windshield, as desired. The BMW Head-Up Display projects this and other information directly into the driver’s field of view, allowing him or her to register the information without having to divert their gaze from the road ahead. The graphics are displayed using the full spectrum of colors. The 8.8-inch Control Display in conjunction with the standard multifunction steering wheel destination also allow for info input by voice command.

     

    Driver Assistance Plus
    The camera-based assistance systems available for the new BMW X1 ensure greater assurance and safety in different driving situations. The Driver Assistance Plus package encompasses Lane Departure Warning, Speed Limit Info, Automatic High Beams, as well as Frontal Collision Warning with Pedestrian Warning and City Collision Mitigation. In addition to these functions, the Driver Assistance Plus package also features the Active Cruise Control system with Stop & Go function. Park Distance Control and the Rear-View Camera are part of the Driver Assistance Package that transfers images onto the Control Display, making precise and comfortable parking maneuvers that much easier. Parking Assistant is included with the Driver Assistance Package and also helps the driver to find and make use of parallel parking spaces.

     

    BMW ConnectedDrive Services and apps
    The ConnectedDrive Services option enables the use of the BMW Online internet portal via the SIM card embedded in the vehicle, as well as the integration of smartphone apps into the car. Standard features also include BMW Assist eCall and BMW Teleservices. The steadily growing selection of smartphone apps comprises web radio functions as well as the use of social network services such as Facebook and Twitter or services like Spotify, Life 360, iHeartRadio among many more.

     

    The ConnectedDrive Store offers even more flexibility. A one-time registration allows customers to adapt the range of services available to their individual needs – there and then or at a later stage. The ConnectedDrive Store is not only available on the internet but also directly in the car. The functions purchased are made available for use just minutes later.

     

    Pricing will be announced closer to launch.

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    Both the SRX and XTS use a Haldex AWD system that can send 90% of the torque to the rear wheels as needed.  It is every bit an AWD system as Audi's Quattro. 

     

    The XTS and XTS V-Sport are very different beasts on the road that you almost cannot compare the two in any meaningful way besides the size.  The regular XTS is soft on torque and uses air springs for a soft ride.  

     

    The XTS V-Sport has the 410hp Twin Turbo V6 with 369 lb-ft from 1900 rpm all the way to 5600 rpm. It also sports Cadillac's Magnetic Ride Control (or Magic Ride Control as I like to call it) that takes those air springs and firms everything up to make the big girl dance.  What it really needs is some better brakes. 

     

    That's like saying a 2WD Silverado is every bit the RWD system as what's in a 458 Italia. And it's simply untrue.

     

    The SRX, like other GM vehicles, uses the Gen 4 Haldex system. It is FWD biased, and does not have the same ability or feel as some other AWD systems, like some of those found in Audis. Most Audis (everything larger than A3/Q3) use traditional mechanical AWD systems with center torsen diffs. These have numerous advantages over systems like Haldex's.

     

    I was specifically referring to an XTS-V. While it was unquestionably more competent than the last SHO I drove, track ready it was not.

     

     

    I did say "almost".  It needs bigger brakes and the more aggressive MRC programming available in the ATS-V and CTS-V.... 

     

    The XTS-V starts at $63,000 and runs into the high $70k range.  What, if anything, at BMW, Mercedes, or Audi will get you XTS-V performance in the same size package at that price?  You can't do it.  There is no more E550. A CLS550 will get you close on performance but doesn't have the room. An S550 may have the room and performance, but also costs and entire Chevrolet Malibu more.    The story repeats at BMW where you can get a 550i but sacrifice the space or get the 750i and spend $20k more. 

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    Both the SRX and XTS use a Haldex AWD system that can send 90% of the torque to the rear wheels as needed.  It is every bit an AWD system as Audi's Quattro. 

     

    The XTS and XTS V-Sport are very different beasts on the road that you almost cannot compare the two in any meaningful way besides the size.  The regular XTS is soft on torque and uses air springs for a soft ride.  

     

    The XTS V-Sport has the 410hp Twin Turbo V6 with 369 lb-ft from 1900 rpm all the way to 5600 rpm. It also sports Cadillac's Magnetic Ride Control (or Magic Ride Control as I like to call it) that takes those air springs and firms everything up to make the big girl dance.  What it really needs is some better brakes. 

     

    That's like saying a 2WD Silverado is every bit the RWD system as what's in a 458 Italia. And it's simply untrue.

     

    The SRX, like other GM vehicles, uses the Gen 4 Haldex system. It is FWD biased, and does not have the same ability or feel as some other AWD systems, like some of those found in Audis. Most Audis (everything larger than A3/Q3) use traditional mechanical AWD systems with center torsen diffs. These have numerous advantages over systems like Haldex's.

     

    I was specifically referring to an XTS-V. While it was unquestionably more competent than the last SHO I drove, track ready it was not.

     

     

    I did say "almost".  It needs bigger brakes and the more aggressive MRC programming available in the ATS-V and CTS-V.... 

     

    The XTS-V starts at $63,000 and runs into the high $70k range.  What, if anything, at BMW, Mercedes, or Audi will get you XTS-V performance in the same size package at that price?  You can't do it.  There is no more E550. A CLS550 will get you close on performance but doesn't have the room. An S550 may have the room and performance, but also costs and entire Chevrolet Malibu more.    The story repeats at BMW where you can get a 550i but sacrifice the space or get the 750i and spend $20k more. 

     

     

    Fair enough.

     

    As for German equivalents to the XTS, there are none. GM did this intentionally. And it was a smart move. But drive an XTS and an A6 3.0T back to back, and it is readily apparent where the money goes. It's not a strike against the German brands that they don't have an expensive sedan based on a mainstream offering that steps on the toes of their other offerings.

     

    But I digress.

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    The XTS V-Sport has the 410hp Twin Turbo V6 with 369 lb-ft from 1900 rpm all the way to 5600 rpm. It also sports Cadillac's Magnetic Ride Control (or Magic Ride Control as I like to call it) that takes those air springs and firms everything up to make the big girl dance.  What it really needs is some better brakes. 

    Magic body control is the S-class suspension that scans the road ahead to adjust the suspension before hitting a bump.  That is where the real magic is.

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    The XTS V-Sport has the 410hp Twin Turbo V6 with 369 lb-ft from 1900 rpm all the way to 5600 rpm. It also sports Cadillac's Magnetic Ride Control (or Magic Ride Control as I like to call it) that takes those air springs and firms everything up to make the big girl dance.  What it really needs is some better brakes. 

    Magic body control is the S-class suspension that scans the road ahead to adjust the suspension before hitting a bump.  That is where the real magic is.

     

    I wonder how fast that S-Class can scan and adjust properly on Montreal roads in the spring time...Im willing to bet...not so fast...Im willing to bet...that the S-Class drops the ball on that...

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    The XTS V-Sport has the 410hp Twin Turbo V6 with 369 lb-ft from 1900 rpm all the way to 5600 rpm. It also sports Cadillac's Magnetic Ride Control (or Magic Ride Control as I like to call it) that takes those air springs and firms everything up to make the big girl dance.  What it really needs is some better brakes. 

    Magic body control is the S-class suspension that scans the road ahead to adjust the suspension before hitting a bump.  That is where the real magic is.

     

    I wonder how fast that S-Class can scan and adjust properly on Montreal roads in the spring time...Im willing to bet...not so fast...Im willing to bet...that the S-Class drops the ball on that...

     

     

    it's actually pretty good at it... but it is completely geared towards being soft rather than performance. 

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    The XTS V-Sport has the 410hp Twin Turbo V6 with 369 lb-ft from 1900 rpm all the way to 5600 rpm. It also sports Cadillac's Magnetic Ride Control (or Magic Ride Control as I like to call it) that takes those air springs and firms everything up to make the big girl dance.  What it really needs is some better brakes. 

    Magic body control is the S-class suspension that scans the road ahead to adjust the suspension before hitting a bump.  That is where the real magic is.

     

    I wonder how fast that S-Class can scan and adjust properly on Montreal roads in the spring time...Im willing to bet...not so fast...Im willing to bet...that the S-Class drops the ball on that...

     

     

    it's actually pretty good at it... but it is completely geared towards being soft rather than performance. 

     

    Well..roads that are full of pot holes...Ithink its a more intelligent approach to go with soft rather than performance.

    So...I guess if the S-Class could adjust quickly and be quite good at it to smoothen the ride  of pot hole infested Montreal and Detroit roads, then magic sure seems to be the correct terminology to describe M-B's system.

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    What Clarkson proved in his X6 test is how over rated all wheel drive is.  Tires matter more.  Obviously 4 drive wheels gives better traction thatn 2 all other things being equal.  But people over rate all wheel drive. 

     

    My car has 245/40 ZR18 tires in the front and 265/35 ZR18 in the rear.  With summer tires it would be useless.  With Blizzaks I have driven it through 2 winters of snow without much of any problem.  Getting up a hill from a stop can be a challenge.  But the tires are what matter for grip, not the drive wheels.

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    The S-class is a luxury car, of course the the magic body control and air springs are going to go for comfort.  That is the hallmark of the S-class, that legendary ride quality.

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    Firstly, it looks great. The best looking crossover this size on the market, imo.

     

    That said, it sucks to see this being a casualty to the conversion to a FWD-based platform. I know it makes good business sense, but still. The current X1 is really an underrated little ride. It's essentially a slightly lifted E91. And with the 3.0 I6, it's quite the sleeper.

     

    Oh, and the SRX, like the Equinox it's based on, sucks.

    So Dingo, Please reread the story above as this DOES NOT have the I6 but a lowly 4 banger that is transverse and being used to mostly go FWD but on slippage use the AWD system to work.

     

    Also if the SRX and Equinox suck so bad, then state facts please, do not just say it sucks unless you want to clarify it by saying some other personal pet peeve with the auto's.

     

    Please support and back up your statements with facts not just useless english words.

     

     

     

    I don't need to reread the story, YOU need to reread my POST.

     

    I understand this vehicle no longer will use an I6. I specifically stated 'current X1' in my post- the E84. Which is available with the N55.

     

    State facts? Okay.

     

    The interior is cheap, they're outdated, they're overpriced, and until the 3.6 got shoved in them, they were powertrain disasters. Hows that?

     

    If the interior is cheap then how do you justify these current interior images of the BMW X1 top and the SRX bottom pictures?

     

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    SRX is equal and in my opinion far superior to what BMW does in their auto's.

     

    In regards to the power trains, the Turbo engine they put in the initial SRX version 2.0 was a very good power train just a bit thirsty. Perfect? No, but that did not stop them from out selling many other brands including the Germans.

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    What Clarkson proved in his X6 test is how over rated all wheel drive is.  Tires matter more.  Obviously 4 drive wheels gives better traction thatn 2 all other things being equal.  But people over rate all wheel drive. 

     

    My car has 245/40 ZR18 tires in the front and 265/35 ZR18 in the rear.  With summer tires it would be useless.  With Blizzaks I have driven it through 2 winters of snow without much of any problem.  Getting up a hill from a stop can be a challenge.  But the tires are what matter for grip, not the drive wheels.

     

    This 100%.

     

    RWD with snows on will embarass AWD with performance or plain all seasons.

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    Firstly, it looks great. The best looking crossover this size on the market, imo.

     

    That said, it sucks to see this being a casualty to the conversion to a FWD-based platform. I know it makes good business sense, but still. The current X1 is really an underrated little ride. It's essentially a slightly lifted E91. And with the 3.0 I6, it's quite the sleeper.

     

    Oh, and the SRX, like the Equinox it's based on, sucks.

    So Dingo, Please reread the story above as this DOES NOT have the I6 but a lowly 4 banger that is transverse and being used to mostly go FWD but on slippage use the AWD system to work.

     

    Also if the SRX and Equinox suck so bad, then state facts please, do not just say it sucks unless you want to clarify it by saying some other personal pet peeve with the auto's.

     

    Please support and back up your statements with facts not just useless english words.

     

     

     

    I don't need to reread the story, YOU need to reread my POST.

     

    I understand this vehicle no longer will use an I6. I specifically stated 'current X1' in my post- the E84. Which is available with the N55.

     

    State facts? Okay.

     

    The interior is cheap, they're outdated, they're overpriced, and until the 3.6 got shoved in them, they were powertrain disasters. Hows that?

     

    If the interior is cheap then how do you justify these current interior images of the BMW X1 top and the SRX bottom pictures?

     

    attachicon.gifBMW-X1-toSRX-Interiors.jpg

     

    SRX is equal and in my opinion far superior to what BMW does in their auto's.

     

    In regards to the power trains, the Turbo engine they put in the initial SRX version 2.0 was a very good power train just a bit thirsty. Perfect? No, but that did not stop them from out selling many other brands including the Germans.

     

     

     

    Maybe you should check one of my other posts where I also accused the X3 of being cheap inside. It's certainly no worse than the SRX though, and kills it in the driving dynamics department.

     

    The old Saab 2.8TT was mediocre at best. The 3.0 was underpowered. The 3.6 is decent.

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    What Clarkson proved in his X6 test is how over rated all wheel drive is.  Tires matter more.  Obviously 4 drive wheels gives better traction thatn 2 all other things being equal.  But people over rate all wheel drive. 

     

    My car has 245/40 ZR18 tires in the front and 265/35 ZR18 in the rear.  With summer tires it would be useless.  With Blizzaks I have driven it through 2 winters of snow without much of any problem.  Getting up a hill from a stop can be a challenge.  But the tires are what matter for grip, not the drive wheels.

     

    This 100%.

     

    RWD with snows on will embarass AWD with performance or plain all seasons.

     

     

    I have ran a total of 4 sets of tires on my Fusion Sport AWD before trading it in recently for another Fusion 2.0L AWD.

    I have owned many AWD vehicles, and even with tires that have barely any tread on them, I can still out accelerate ANY RWD vehicle on the road, regardless of what tires they have on.  AWD works, rain, sleet or snow.

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    AWD has benefit in bad weather over RWD, but if you put summer only tires on an all wheel drive car, what happened to Clarkson in the X6 will happen, doesn't matter if you have 8 wheel drive if the tires have no grip.

     

    As far as the X1 vs SRX, they aren't the same class.  The X1 is cheaper and 14 inches shorter in length.  The X1 is smaller than an ATS, the Mercedes GLA is even smaller, almost Buick Encore sized.

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    What Clarkson proved in his X6 test is how over rated all wheel drive is.  Tires matter more.  Obviously 4 drive wheels gives better traction thatn 2 all other things being equal.  But people over rate all wheel drive. 

     

    My car has 245/40 ZR18 tires in the front and 265/35 ZR18 in the rear.  With summer tires it would be useless.  With Blizzaks I have driven it through 2 winters of snow without much of any problem.  Getting up a hill from a stop can be a challenge.  But the tires are what matter for grip, not the drive wheels.

     

    This 100%.

     

    RWD with snows on will embarass AWD with performance or plain all seasons.

     

     

    I have ran a total of 4 sets of tires on my Fusion Sport AWD before trading it in recently for another Fusion 2.0L AWD.

    I have owned many AWD vehicles, and even with tires that have barely any tread on them, I can still out accelerate ANY RWD vehicle on the road, regardless of what tires they have on.  AWD works, rain, sleet or snow.

     

     

    Yeah, sure. I'll just ignore the laws of traction and physics based on your anecdotal evidence.

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    AWD has benefit in bad weather over RWD, but if you put summer only tires on an all wheel drive car, what happened to Clarkson in the X6 will happen, doesn't matter if you have 8 wheel drive if the tires have no grip.

     

    As far as the X1 vs SRX, they aren't the same class.  The X1 is cheaper and 14 inches shorter in length.  The X1 is smaller than an ATS, the Mercedes GLA is even smaller, almost Buick Encore sized.

     

    I would not run summer tires on anything in the winter.  Tread compounds is key here.  

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    What Clarkson proved in his X6 test is how over rated all wheel drive is.  Tires matter more.  Obviously 4 drive wheels gives better traction thatn 2 all other things being equal.  But people over rate all wheel drive. 

     

    My car has 245/40 ZR18 tires in the front and 265/35 ZR18 in the rear.  With summer tires it would be useless.  With Blizzaks I have driven it through 2 winters of snow without much of any problem.  Getting up a hill from a stop can be a challenge.  But the tires are what matter for grip, not the drive wheels.

     

    This 100%.

     

    RWD with snows on will embarass AWD with performance or plain all seasons.

     

     

    I have ran a total of 4 sets of tires on my Fusion Sport AWD before trading it in recently for another Fusion 2.0L AWD.

    I have owned many AWD vehicles, and even with tires that have barely any tread on them, I can still out accelerate ANY RWD vehicle on the road, regardless of what tires they have on.  AWD works, rain, sleet or snow.

     

     

    Yeah, sure. I'll just ignore the laws of traction and physics based on your anecdotal evidence.

     

    If you did use the laws and physics approach, calculations would have to include a 2X factor for AWD that will typically trump any slightly greater coefficient factor as a result of tread compounds, tire design, etc. Especially when you consider the additional weight over the front wheels.

     

    But hey, you are a big boy.  You can choose any approach you like  :soapbox:

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    What Clarkson proved in his X6 test is how over rated all wheel drive is.  Tires matter more.  Obviously 4 drive wheels gives better traction thatn 2 all other things being equal.  But people over rate all wheel drive. 

     

    My car has 245/40 ZR18 tires in the front and 265/35 ZR18 in the rear.  With summer tires it would be useless.  With Blizzaks I have driven it through 2 winters of snow without much of any problem.  Getting up a hill from a stop can be a challenge.  But the tires are what matter for grip, not the drive wheels.

     

    This 100%.

     

    RWD with snows on will embarass AWD with performance or plain all seasons.

     

     

    I have ran a total of 4 sets of tires on my Fusion Sport AWD before trading it in recently for another Fusion 2.0L AWD.

    I have owned many AWD vehicles, and even with tires that have barely any tread on them, I can still out accelerate ANY RWD vehicle on the road, regardless of what tires they have on.  AWD works, rain, sleet or snow.

     

     

    Yeah, sure. I'll just ignore the laws of traction and physics based on your anecdotal evidence.

     

    If you did use the laws and physics approach, calculations would have to include a 2X factor for AWD that will typically trump any slightly greater coefficient factor as a result of tread compounds, tire design, etc. Especially when you consider the additional weight over the front wheels.

     

    But hey, you are a big boy.  You can choose any approach you like  :soapbox:

     

     

     

    So by your logic an AWD vehicle with race slicks is going to outperform a FWD or RWD with grooved/water shedding tread in the rain, simply because it has more driven wheels......gotcha.

     

    I don't think there's any else to be discussed here, carry on.

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    Obviously all things being equal AWD will outperform 2WD. But with winter tires on even RWD, and regular all seasons on most AWD systems, the AWD vehicle is getting it's ass handed to it in the snow/ice.

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