Chevron and Texaco Announce FreeWire Chargers for Stations

The picture of the BP logo'd FreeWire Ultra-Fast Charger is the fueling dispenser of the 21st Century.

On 10/13/2022 at 2:19 PM, David said:

FreeWire calls these Boost Chargers that will allow a customer to charge 200 miles of range in 15 minutes.

 200 miles in 15 minutes.

Ultium battery fast charging allows for 100 miles in 10 minutes

https://www.motortrend.com/news/gm-ultium-platform-technology-explained/#:~:text=Voltage and Charging%3A Most Ultium,100 miles in 10 minutes.

@ccap41

You want links?

Because you said I dont give links. It is false...I give links. 'Tis you that chooses not to take in what is said by me...

I wanna know, when you are sleeping in your hotel room, after driving 280 -320 miles, while on vacation or working in a city that is not your home city...

I wanna know:

1. how in the hell does an EV charging at your hotel, because hotels DO have EV chargers, and I linked those as well,  I wanna know how it is an inconvenience and worse than an ICE car when the EV is charging while you are sleeping?

2. Where in the hell are you driving 100 plus miles to and fro, from a vacation destination city or where the phoque does your employer room and board you to be 100 plus miles AWAY from the job site, that an EV is inconveniencing you and is a bothersome thing as compared to an ICE car?

Right now... as you say, 

because it is YOU that hasnt given ANY rebuttal back on how an EV rental is trouble worse than an ICE car.

And as you could see, many solutions are in progress  to ease off the FUD, FUD that YOU also spread regardless even if you are NOT an anti-EV guy.  Trolling or not. Knowingly spreading FUD are just plain ignorant...EV cars and their supporting technology is fast making ICE cars obsolete and dated.  

Even NASA, as @David posted for us to read for our education, has joined in on the fun to make ICE cars disappear by 2025. LOL

@oldshurst442 The FreeWire Chargers are able to do 200 miles in 15 minutes due to the built-in battery pack that allows lower voltage electrical connections so it can store power for repeated charges fast.

What I wanted to say, and it came out attacking @ccap41 is that, and I understand that Freewire chargers and NASA are not available to us just yet and Ultium battery tech is just only now rolling out of gm is that even with EVs available today, right now, with right now tech, not yesterday's Chevy Bolt tech and Nissan's 1st and 2nd gen Leaf tech, but with Hyundai/Kia and gm ultium  right now tech alongside with  right now Audi/Porsche/VW and obviously Tesla EV tech and others with 280-320 EV mile ranges with right now EV charging stations anywhere in the US, even in the most hostile areas against EVs in the US, there are literally very minute compromises to be made over ICE.  Anything contrary to what I said is just scare tactics.  And with charging stations popping up more more as the days go by with Freewire chargers and NASA cable solutions and batteries inside their EVs gaining more and more range charging faster and faster...

*SIGH*

EVs having more than 500 mile ranges, losing less and less range due to weather and towing and the like charging up faster and faster is a reality that will be upon us by 2030.  

Someone will ask me to post proof of this?

Ill just say to those people to read up on EV tech and where its heading.  Because its not a heavenly like utopia fantasy.  EV related sources straight from the tech websites. Not from sources against EVs or pro EV sites.  Real engineering sources...

Even now, with today today tech that offer us 300 mile EV range.

The Hummer EV, as grossly ineffiecient as it is, its still rated at 319 mile range.  That is as MUCH range as an ICEV.  With superchargers popping up EVERYWHERE and WILL be ubiquitous as gasoline stations are, and charging times being going faster and faster LIKE AS FAST as gasoline cars be filling up, there is virtually NO NEED to have: 

1. EV ranges MORE than 300 miles. Save weight.  But batteries are gonna become less heavy.

2. Batteries becoming less heavy, ranges WILL increase to 1000 miles eventually, by 2035 or 2040, there is NO NEED for all these chargers everywhere...

3. Even right now now, too much is being said about range, charging times and all that shyte.

The link @David gave us 

https://electrek.co/2022/10/08/2200mi-electric-roadtrip-it-was-easy-so-whats-the-big-deal/

is about a dude that did NO planning to drive his Tesla on a big trip.  Its a Tesla. No planning necessary is because Tesla's charging network is as vast as a gasoline station network is.  TRhe rest of the EV world is catching up.   @David  is giving us links to what Im saying that gasoline company gas stations are giving us EV charging stations...   

300 mile range EVs with ubiquitous charging stations as gasoline stations are is what is needed and today's charging times is good enough.  We all know all those parameters are being improved and by 2025 even, our EV driving needs will be met and even SURPASS those driving needs that we have with ICE.  

There is no need for folk like Tucker Carlson or @ccap41 to continue to dish out bullshyte about EVs...

Then there is the other side of this.

Although charging stations other than Tesla's are lagging. But only slightly.

There is simply not enough EVs on the road to justify ubiquitous charging stations.  But those numbers will come. And with what Im reading, charging stations will be up and running at the most perfect time when OEMs are ceasing their ICEV productions and EVs are being bought more and more.  

This will come because ICEV production WILL come to an end BECAUSE its a WORLD WIDE decision for it to be so.  Ive siad it before and Ill say it again. Trillions of dollars WORLD WIDE in ALL aspects of EV adoption GLOBALLY is being spent. Charging networls and electrical grids will NOT be left to chance to see if it will work. GLOBAL engineering thoughts and solutions and monies spent have been made, is being made now and will continue to be made fot this EV transition to go through IN ALL KINDS of sectors. 

Someone will ask me for proof?

Just in THIS thread alone there is enough links and proof that justifies my opinion...

@oldshurst442 @surreal1272 @Robert Hall @ccap41 @smk4565 @Drew Dowdell Thought you guys would find this interesting as OIL reserves tend to gauge how things are going and of course we all know that more than Autos use OIL in so many products. As such, thought you all would find this info interesting.

Saudi Arabia Reveals Oil Output Is Near Its Ceiling - Bloomberg

Saudi Arabia's oil reserves: how big are they really? Kemp | Reuters

How Much Oil Does Saudi Arabia Really Have? (forbes.com)

So based on the info above, Saudi Arabia who supposedly has the largest oil reserves in the world has only 60 to 70 years left of supply based on today's consumption and of course consumption keeps going up.

Based on this interesting web site of tracking oil reserves and consumption, we have about 47 years left. I do find this site info interesting and upon looking at Venezuela as they are listed as #1 oil reserves, it appears half of their oil in the ground is what is called heavy oil and requires extensive processing to be of use. As such, this still puts Saudi Arabia in first place since their reserves is what is called lite sweet crude.

World Oil Statistics - Worldometer (worldometers.info)

5 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

Then there is the other side of this.

Although charging stations other than Tesla's are lagging. But only slightly.

There is simply not enough EVs on the road to justify ubiquitous charging stations.  But those numbers will come. And with what Im reading, charging stations will be up and running at the most perfect time when OEMs are ceasing their ICEV productions and EVs are being bought more and more.  

This will come because ICEV production WILL come to an end BECAUSE its a WORLD WIDE decision for it to be so.  Ive siad it before and Ill say it again. Trillions of dollars WORLD WIDE in ALL aspects of EV adoption GLOBALLY is being spent. Charging networls and electrical grids will NOT be left to chance to see if it will work. GLOBAL engineering thoughts and solutions and monies spent have been made, is being made now and will continue to be made fot this EV transition to go through IN ALL KINDS of sectors. 

Someone will ask me for proof?

Just in THIS thread alone there is enough links and proof that justifies my opinion...

 

The Green energy change over to solar, wind, geothermal, etc. alternative ways to power away from Oil, coal, natural gas. Yet as long as we pump oil out of the ground, we will have natural gas and they will continue to power things.

Also, a renaissance of sorts is happening as nuclear power plants are instead of being shut down, getting refurbished, opened back up and new one planned.

The Nuclear Energy Renaissance Has Arrived | Opinion (newsweek.com)

Why nuclear energy is on the verge of a renaissance (cnbc.com)

Westinghouse sale another sign of new nuclear age • The Register

These are all interesting and I feel we will see this help power a change over to electric motivation for autos, freight movement, trains, etc.

With Solid State Batteries having huge increase in density, power plants will need to supply the increase and as such, while green energy will be pushed big to help fill in the gap, nuclear is another source that can help.

On 10/14/2022 at 9:03 PM, oldshurst442 said:

And as you could see, many solutions are in progress  to ease off the FUD, FUD that YOU also spread regardless even if you are NOT an anti-EV guy.  Trolling or not. Knowingly spreading FUD are just plain ignorant...EV cars and their supporting technology is fast making ICE cars obsolete and dated.  

You can continue to try and convince me but in spring of 2023, when the Hertz orders start coming in from GM, renting an EV still will not be more convenient to the renter than an old gas burner.