Rivian R1T Pickup Has A 400 Mile Range and Tows Up To 11,000 Pounds

Very excited for this pickup truck.

I do wonder why the 180 kWh battery pack drops HP. I get it has more range, but I see no reason to drop the HP compared to the 135 kWh battery pack.

Like the Cyclone look.  

Love the open roominess of this truck!

Gotta love a nice big Frunk!

Like the ability of the tailgate in this truck.

Cool storage area that also looks accessible from the inside.

Great Dash

Gotta love the power plug ports and USB C ports in a protected spot in the bed for external use.

Bed does look short, some will probably have problems with a 4'6" long bed with tailgate up. For most city and suburban dwellers, I think this will work just fine.

700 hp and 800 lb-ft of torque is insane, that is what I love about EV's.  That crushes any V8 truck.  I also like the flat floor in the interior, looks very spacious and the front trunk and storage is nice too.   Hopefully they are successful with this, I'd like to see more options for EVs rather than small hatchbacks.

  On 11/26/2018 at 4:56 PM, dfelt said:

Love the open roominess of this truck!

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You can tell absolutely nothing from that picture of how roomy it actually is.. 

But it is an EV so I would only expect you to assume it's God-like. 

  On 11/26/2018 at 6:01 PM, ccap41 said:

You can tell absolutely nothing from that picture of how roomy it actually is.. 

But it is an EV so I would only expect you to assume it's God-like. 

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LOL, you can tell alot from this photo:

You can clearly see the accelerator and brake, that right there tells you there is way more legroom than in autos that have the dash connect to the center console. I know for a fact this has more room as it is much like the 90's suburban. I have more leg room in my 1994 suburban than in my 2006 escalade esv due to that center area being more open. 

This look at the dash shows you the large amount of legroom to enjoy. I have not ever had a headroom problem in a truck, so that is a true assumption by me that I will have plenty of headroom. Hopefully on the release at LA we will learn the actual leg, hip, head room sizing for this truck.

  On 11/26/2018 at 6:08 PM, dfelt said:

LOL, you can tell alot from this photo:

 

You can clearly see the accelerator and brake, that right there tells you there is way more legroom than in autos that have the dash connect to the center console. I know for a fact this has more room as it is much like the 90's suburban. I have more leg room in my 1994 suburban than in my 2006 escalade esv due to that center area being more open. 

This look at the dash shows you the large amount of legroom to enjoy. I have not ever had a headroom problem in a truck, so that is a true assumption by me that I will have plenty of headroom. Hopefully on the release at LA we will learn the actual leg, hip, head room sizing for this truck.

 

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That big open space in front of the center seems weird....yes, w/ the EV platform they don't need a large transmission tunnel, but some sort of storage compartment there would be useful rather than dead space... 

https://www.rivian.com/

Their website is showing 1 day and a little over an hour till we see their SUV the R1S.

http://products.rivian.com/suv/

Gotta love the 3ft wading depth of the pickup truck.

  On 11/26/2018 at 6:12 PM, Robert Hall said:

That big open space in front of the center seems weird....yes, w/ the EV platform they don't need a large transmission tunnel, but some sort of storage compartment there would be useful rather than dead space... 

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Gotta wonder what the rectangle is on what we would usually call a firewall. Wonder if it is access to the Fronk? 

  On 11/26/2018 at 6:14 PM, dfelt said:

https://www.rivian.com/

Their website is showing 1 day and a little over an hour till we see their SUV the R1S.

http://products.rivian.com/suv/

Gotta love the 3ft wading depth of the pickup truck.

Gotta wonder what the rectangle is on what we would usually call a firewall. Wonder if it is access to the Fronk? 

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Could be..maybe an access door for cats or small dogs to go hang out in the frunk...

  On 11/26/2018 at 6:19 PM, Robert Hall said:

Could be..maybe an access door for cats or small dogs to go hang out in the frunk...

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New home for your Motley Crew?  

  On 11/26/2018 at 6:08 PM, dfelt said:

LOL, you can tell alot from this photo:

You can clearly see the accelerator and brake, that right there tells you there is way more legroom than in autos that have the dash connect to the center console. I know for a fact this has more room as it is much like the 90's suburban. I have more leg room in my 1994 suburban than in my 2006 escalade esv due to that center area being more open. 

This look at the dash shows you the large amount of legroom to enjoy. I have not ever had a headroom problem in a truck, so that is a true assumption by me that I will have plenty of headroom. Hopefully on the release at LA we will learn the actual leg, hip, head room sizing for this truck.

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Well if you're taking this picture that serious, the headrest is almost touching the roof so you're screwed. Maybe you don't know how the word "fact" works but that is the complete opposite when you don't have any hard numbers or anything provable.

I can't imagine this being any roomier than a half ton truck from the D3. Look at how narrow the center arm rest is.. It's absolutely smaller than a Silverado, Ram, or F150. 

  On 11/26/2018 at 6:34 PM, ccap41 said:

Well if you're taking this picture that serious, the headrest is almost touching the roof so you're screwed. Maybe you don't know how the word "fact" works but that is the complete opposite when you don't have any hard numbers or anything provable.

I can't imagine this being any roomier than a half ton truck from the D3. Look at how narrow the center arm rest is.. It's absolutely smaller than a Silverado, Ram, or F150. 

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And where are the cup holders?  Unsellable without them...

  On 11/26/2018 at 6:34 PM, ccap41 said:

Well if you're taking this picture that serious, the headrest is almost touching the roof so you're screwed. Maybe you don't know how the word "fact" works but that is the complete opposite when you don't have any hard numbers or anything provable.

I can't imagine this being any roomier than a half ton truck from the D3. Look at how narrow the center arm rest is.. It's absolutely smaller than a Silverado, Ram, or F150. 

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Yes that armrest looks narrow, but the truck based on specs posted by William is 79.33 inches wide. F150 is 79.9 inches, Chevy is 80 inches and Ram is 82.1 inches. So I would say the seats could be wider / bigger. It will be interesting to see it in person.

  On 11/26/2018 at 6:36 PM, Robert Hall said:

And where are the cup holders?  Unsellable without them...

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That's actually 100% accurate. Nice eye. ?

Waste of bandwidth.  Snore.

  On 11/26/2018 at 5:52 PM, smk4565 said:

700 hp and 800 lb-ft of torque is insane, that is what I love about EV's.  That crushes any V8 truck.

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Come again??
DuraMax V8 : 910 TRQ
PowerStroke V8 : 935 TRQ
Cummins (ya; it's a 6) : 925 TRQ

  On 11/27/2018 at 3:36 AM, balthazar said:

Come again??
DuraMax V8 : 910 TRQ
PowerStroke V8 : 935 TRQ
Cummins (ya; it's a 6) : 925 TRQ

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Those are also Heavy Duty trucks with lower horsepower numbers.  This truck does 0-60 as fast as a Corvette Z06, which is pretty insane.  This Rivian will compete with Ecoboost 3.5 F150s.  I'm sure if this company got going and comes up with an HD pickup they could have it tow 20,000 lbs or some ridiculous number.

The new Tesla Roadster is supposed to have 7,000 lb-ft of torque, I would imagine they could fit that to the pick up they are planning.  I wouldn't bet on diesel as the future.

Have to take these early 'factory' pics with a few grains of salt. The shot of the interior shows NO DOORS nor any hinges for doors, therefore it doesn't seem to be a 'production' truck. Things are going to change and 'real world' camera shots may well tell a markedly different story.

Narrow center console is a HUGE plus IMO- they've grown increasingly fatter and take measureable space from the 2 outer seating spots. People think they need a microwave-sized console for some dumb-assed reason. RHall makes a good point about the dead space in front of it, tho. I have a split bench with a fold-down, and I built a tray to sit on the trans tunnel to hold a bunch of stuff.

Overall, despite the weird styling and the omission of a bed (to speak of), it looks pretty well finished and thought out. The issue is, yet again, a totally noncompetitive price.

By the by, I've already added the word 'frunk' to the list of words I refuse to use.

  On 11/27/2018 at 3:45 AM, smk4565 said:

Those are also Heavy Duty trucks with lower horsepower numbers.  This truck does 0-60 as fast as a Corvette Z06, which is pretty insane.  This Rivian will compete with Ecoboost 3.5 F150s.  I'm sure if this company got going and comes up with an HD pickup they could have it tow 20,000 lbs or some ridiculous number.

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You said this truck's numbers "crush all other V8 trucks" and they don't. Perhaps you misspoke. Yet again.

Ford Powerstoke 450 hp

Ram Cummings 385 hp

Chevy 445 hp

Those are not 700 hp.  And I know trucks use torque, but 700 hp is still 700 hp.  

Don't think cars use TRQ too? Interesting.

  On 11/27/2018 at 5:10 AM, balthazar said:

Don't think cars use TRQ too? Interesting.

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Ya know he is just about numbers, maybe we are expecting too much in regards to understanding how torque and HP work together to move an auto.  

  On 11/27/2018 at 3:52 AM, smk4565 said:

Ford Powerstoke 450 hp

Ram Cummings 385 hp

Chevy 445 hp

Those are not 700 hp.  And I know trucks use torque, but 700 hp is still 700 hp.  

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* CUMMINS

Given how many flash-in-the-pan electric car companies there have been in recent years, is there any sense that this is as real as say Tesla and not just smoke-and-mirrors fakery like Faraday Future was?   This is the first I've heard of Rivan. 

  On 11/27/2018 at 2:21 PM, Robert Hall said:

Given how many flash-in-the-pan electric car companies there have been in recent years, is there any sense that this is as real as say Tesla and not just smoke-and-mirrors fakery like Faraday Future was?   This is the first I've heard of Rivan. 

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Unlike Faraday Future which was thought up on a napkin and then went marketing flash with vaporware for an auto to raise cash till recently, Rivian Automotive was founded in 2009 by RJ  Scaringe.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/rj-scaringe-58355716 

He has a PHD and Masters in Automotive Engineering from MIT. 

This guy is not going to fail. I think this will be the next Tesla of the auto world.

https://www.cargroup.org/person/rj-scaringe/  

RJ Scaringe founded Rivian in 2009 and led the company through a tough economic climate to secure substantial financing, recruit and scale an exceptional team, and establish the company’s product and technology platform. Mr. Scaringe excels in analyzing highly complex systems, combining deep analytical capabilities with a system-based development methodology. Mr. Scaringe earned his MS and Ph.D. in Mechanical Engineering from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology where he was a member of the research team in the Sloan Automotive Laboratory. In leading Rivian, Mr. Scaringe works to maintain a highly collaborative environment, and his hands-on approach drives innovative thinking into all aspects of the business and company culture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivian 

To say this guy has done his homework, secured his funding and gathered multiple government  grants and secured the full manufacturing facility at Normal, Illinois which was a former Mitsubishi Motors auto plant which has 2.4 million sq ft of manufacturing room along with a functioning paint shop, robotics, stamping machines and other production equipment. This will allow Rivian to potentially leapfrog ahead of Tesla in ramping up production using established and tested manufacturing methods from the auto industry.

I honestly expect them to ramp up and deliver auto's for sale much faster than Tesla has done. The keep quiet skunk works project till they had a production ready product was the smartest thing RJ did for Rivian Automotive.

Interesting..will be interesting to see how things go for them. I always assume the worst in people and companies.

  On 11/27/2018 at 2:21 PM, Robert Hall said:

Given how many flash-in-the-pan electric car companies there have been in recent years, is there any sense that this is as real as say Tesla and not just smoke-and-mirrors fakery like Faraday Future was?   This is the first I've heard of Rivan. 

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Likewise, I wonder if they will really get this off the ground.  The concept and what it delivers looks great.  Makes you wonder why one of the big guys isn't working on something like this.  Where is Toyota with an EV truck?  

Super smart people don't necessarily make the best business people.. Just sayin' education doesn't equate to a successful company. 

  On 11/27/2018 at 4:35 PM, ccap41 said:

Super smart people don't necessarily make the best business people.. Just sayin' education doesn't equate to a successful company. 

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Very true in most cases, but this guy also has degrees in business, has the connections and is backed by some big investment companies and MIT. Just like @Robert Hall had not heard of them till now, they really worked hard on a quality product with not wasting money for look at me crap like Faraday or Tesla did.

I am excited to see the Rivian SUV that is to be shown at LA. They had teased so much on the truck, then early release info and pictures. Now we will get to see the final info on the truck, hands on people checking it out and their production ready SUV that is supposed to go into production at the same time as the truck at the Former Mitsubishi plant.

Unlike so many others, I actually think this has a great chance to succeed in the market.

I am also hoping that GM will finally show off at least 1 if not 2 of their EVs at the LA show.

This is still a concept.. I think saying this isn't a crap product should hold off until there is at least a rolling product with doors and a cup holder. 

  On 11/27/2018 at 5:17 PM, ccap41 said:

This is still a concept.. I think saying this isn't a crap product should hold off until there is at least a rolling product with doors and a cup holder. 

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Unlike true concepts that barely move around on their own, Rivian has shown the truck out in the woods actually being driven off road, going through rivers, etc. I think while some of their pictures have been from the initial concept they built, many are also of what should be a production near ready truck and I think we will see this at the autoshow once media have access to it. I would think they would have cup holders by then.  I could be wrong through. Still exciting times for auto's.

  On 11/27/2018 at 5:22 PM, dfelt said:

Unlike true concepts that barely move around on their own, Rivian has shown the truck out in the woods actually being driven off road, going through rivers, etc.  

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Interesting...I assumed those were Photoshop or other CGI renderings. So maybe running prototypes were used. 

  On 11/27/2018 at 5:30 PM, Robert Hall said:

Interesting...I assumed those were Photoshop or other CGI renderings. So maybe running prototypes were used. 

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I had to look more into it as well but here's a video of it. It seems pretty real.

https://vimeo.com/301410788

I also found the cup holders in the video. 

Neat video.   Love the music and cinematography.  Interesting how all the streets and roads were empty.   Pacific Northwest setting, looks like. 

  On 11/27/2018 at 5:48 PM, ccap41 said:

I had to look more into it as well but here's a video of it. It seems pretty real.

https://vimeo.com/301410788

 

I also found the cup holders in the video. 

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That Rocks, Thank you CCAP41 for finding this. I have been reading good things on the off-road capabilities of this truck. I could actually see myself buying this as a family hauler and for yard duty. My wife wants a truck big enough to haul us and our two grown kids occasionally plus let her go to Home Depot or the Nursery and buy stuff and throw it in back. Her final request is it be EV, so this truck would fit all her desires. Exciting for sure.

Have to say this video gives even more space and room that this truck offers. Love the Surf board that fits in the funky storage between the cab and bed. I love the sizing of holding a full size cooler in the Frunk. Clearly cup holders are there as CCAP41 points out.

@Robert Hall @ccap41 So the video is very easy to identify where they filmed. Started in Downtown Portland, they then drove up to and over the last bridge going over the Columbia River called "The Bridge of the Gods" into Washington state and the beach where they go surfing and camping is just south of Westport on the coast and Yes, those roads are always very sparse with traffic like that. Common to only see a few cars at a time.

1hr and 32min till the Rivian reveal of their SUV the R1S!

Good reading stuff in their newsroom

https://www.rivian.com/news 

  On 11/27/2018 at 6:16 PM, dfelt said:

@Robert Hall @ccap41 So the video is very easy to identify where they filmed. Started in Downtown Portland, they then drove up to and over the last bridge going over the Columbia River called "The Bridge of the Gods" into Washington state and the beach where they go surfing and camping is just south of Westport on the coast and Yes, those roads are always very sparse with traffic like that. Common to only see a few cars at a time.

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Yes, I thought the bridge looked familiar...I've driven over it before.  I saw the map briefly early in the video and thought it was the Portland area.   Beautiful place, so much more interesting than the fecal desert void I wasted a decade in.   I really need to take a vacation to the PNW..

  On 11/27/2018 at 6:04 PM, dfelt said:

Love the Surf board that fits in the funky storage between the cab and bed.

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I'm still really curious about this. I can't imagine it being large enough for a real surf board. It just doesn't look that large of an opening but I absolutely love that they're utilizing that space. That and the frunk are two huge reason EVs should take off eventually. Once automakers learn how to really package them better I think that should be a huge advertising point. 

  On 11/27/2018 at 6:18 PM, Robert Hall said:

Yes, I thought the bridge looked familiar...I've driven over it before.  I saw the map briefly early in the video and thought it was the Portland area.   Beautiful place, so much more interesting than the fecal desert void I wasted a decade in.   I really need to take a vacation to the PNW..

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Come visit and if you come north enough to the seattle area let me know and we can connect up.

I know Tesla has gotten a lot of flack for not having physical buttons in the center console area so what're your thoughts on a very similar idea here? 

Personally, I would prefer a few knobs. I would like temp and radio knobs for sure and probably a couple for each of those as well. 

Thinking about it more, maybe just a volume knob and a temperature knob for each passenger. Maybe just 3 knobs would get the job done. Location of the air and radio station could be on the screen. 

  On 11/27/2018 at 6:25 PM, ccap41 said:

I know Tesla has gotten a lot of flack for not having physical buttons in the center console area so what're your thoughts on a very similar idea here? 

Personally, I would prefer a few knobs. I would like temp and radio knobs for sure and probably a couple for each of those as well. 

Thinking about it more, maybe just a volume knob and a temperature knob for each passenger. Maybe just 3 knobs would get the job done. Location of the air and radio station could be on the screen. 

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I do like a few knobs, I certainly like having volume/station/etc controls on the steering wheel.  I use those more than the touchscreen controls in my Jeep.   My preference for knobs or other physical controls are that I should be able to do basic things without glancing down from the road.  Can't do that with touchscreen-only controls. 

  On 11/27/2018 at 6:19 PM, ccap41 said:

I'm still really curious about this. I can't imagine it being large enough for a real surf board. It just doesn't look that large of an opening but I absolutely love that they're utilizing that space. That and the frunk are two huge reason EVs should take off eventually. Once automakers learn how to really package them better I think that should be a huge advertising point. 

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You got me curious about the surfboard statement. The width of the truck is 79.33 inches. According to the web site the length of that storage compartment is 78 inches or 6 feet 5 inches long. The guy looks to be about 5'8" tall to 5'10" tall and when he goes into the water you can see the surfboard is the same size as he is in length. This appears to be a real life board that can store there. Now at the end there is two boards as both he and the woman go into the ocean to surf, so I do question where the second board was stored.

No matter what, you nailed it in your statement that the whole packaging of these EV auto's is going to offer flexibility that we have not had in a long time if ever in ice auto's.

  On 11/27/2018 at 6:25 PM, ccap41 said:

I know Tesla has gotten a lot of flack for not having physical buttons in the center console area so what're your thoughts on a very similar idea here? 

Personally, I would prefer a few knobs. I would like temp and radio knobs for sure and probably a couple for each of those as well. 

Thinking about it more, maybe just a volume knob and a temperature knob for each passenger. Maybe just 3 knobs would get the job done. Location of the air and radio station could be on the screen. 

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  On 11/27/2018 at 6:28 PM, Robert Hall said:

I do like a few knobs, I certainly like having volume/station/etc controls on the steering wheel.  I use those more than the touchscreen controls in my Jeep.   My preference for knobs or other physical controls are that I should be able to do basic things without glancing down from the road.  Can't do that with touchscreen-only controls. 

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So in reading of the Rivian web site news section and technology section, they are stating that the auto will be voice controlled via connection with your phone. So Apple Siri or Ok Google will be used I would think to adjust all that.

Like you both, I would be happy with a couple knobs for the most commonly used items, but I could be totally touch screen if it has voice control to turn things on/off or adjust while driving.

  On 11/27/2018 at 6:29 PM, dfelt said:

 

No matter what, you nailed it in your statement that the whole packaging of these EV auto's is going to offer flexibility that we have not had in a long time if ever in ice auto's.

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It is fascinating when you think of a typical ICE SUV or truck, the huge volume of space used by the old school dirty bits--the whole front end forward of the windshield, the center tunnel, etc.   So the Rivian video mentioned 4 electric motors--each wheel has a dedicated motor, I presume. 

  On 11/27/2018 at 6:32 PM, Robert Hall said:

It is fascinating when you think of a typical ICE SUV or truck, the huge volume of space used by the old school dirty bits--the whole front end forward of the windshield, the center tunnel, etc.   So the Rivian video mentioned 4 electric motors--each wheel has a dedicated motor, I presume. 

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Yes, from what I can gather from their website, it is.

They seem to be connected in the center of each wheel section like a differential. I suspect this gives them a very solid center of gravity and ride quality with the weight of the battery pack too.

I would not be a fan of voice activated controls. I only use that for short, quick texts and occasionally to set a destination on my maps but I would not like voice activated HVAC and radio controls. 

  On 11/27/2018 at 6:56 PM, ccap41 said:

I would not be a fan of voice activated controls. I only use that for short, quick texts and occasionally to set a destination on my maps but I would not like voice activated HVAC and radio controls. 

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As an option over touching the screen, I could be happy with telling it to set the temp at 68 degrees. At least they will have touch capable as well as voice.

 I just found a dig at Tesla in their tech section. They say the following about their battery:

to give you the confidence to go further regardless of terrain or temperature. 

I cannot imagine with all the known issues of Tesla be it outside in extreme temps like death valley or at the track racing where their battery tech overheats and shuts down that this is not a dig at them. LOL

  On 11/27/2018 at 7:33 PM, dfelt said:

As an option over touching the screen, I could be happy with telling it to set the temp at 68 degrees. At least they will have touch capable as well as voice.

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I just don't like that there is always a second or two delay after you hit the button to talk, then you tell it something, then another second or two delay. That is really inconvenient when you're having a conversation with a passenger. 

Loving the live Reveal of the SUV and Truck. Stupid Lunch break, but hopefully we still get to see the interior of the 3 row full size SUV. I am loving that it is NOT A COUPE design. LOVE the Green SUV!

800 HP, Torque Vectoring AWD activity vehicles. These will Sell way better than Tesla Cars!

Like that shade of green...

Hmmmm I am still not a fan of the headlights and forward.  I like the boxy look but it doesn't come off as a full-size SUV. The guy standing there has his head at least halfway over the vehicle. His eyes can look clear over it and I doubt he is 7ft tall. 

  On 11/27/2018 at 8:27 PM, ccap41 said:

Hmmmm I am still not a fan of the headlights and forward.  I like the boxy look but it doesn't come off as a full-size SUV. The guy standing there has his head at least halfway over the vehicle. His eyes can look clear over it and I doubt he is 7ft tall. 

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So the air suspension on this goes from 230 mm to 380 mm. For this reveal they had it at 260mm. So it can still rise up more or as RJ says, can be dropped down to 230 for maximum performance handling and airstream. So at full ride height, the SUV would be 5 inches taller than it is right now.

http://www.autonews.com/article/20181029/OEM06/181029762/rivian-scaringe-lean-manufacturing

Good read on Rivian.

@ccap41 Rihanna is 5'8" So based on this picture at the Nov 26th reveal of the truck that she attended, he is right around 6' tall

http://www.zimbio.com/photos/RJ+Scaringe/Rivian+Unveils+First+Ever+Electric+Adventure/VyhC3NG6EI7