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    2017 Los Angeles Auto Show Wrap Up - Luxury Crossovers and SUVs

      Recapping the luxury crossovers and SUVs from the 2017 Los Angeles Auto Show


    Luxury crossovers and SUVs were a dominant feature at the 2017 Los Angeles Auto Show.  Here is a recap of the releases from the show.

    2018 Lexus RX-L

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    The Details: Lexus has been the leader in the mid-size luxury crossover segment since it was birthed. Where Lexus missed was in offering a 3-row version of their hot seller.  Surprisingly belatedly, Lexus finally came through by extending the RX 4.3 inches and updating the roofline to stuff a 3rd row in the back.  Powertrain carries over from the standard RX with a 290 hp V6 standard for the RX 350L and the 308 hp Hybrid available only on the RX 450hL.

    Why it Matters: It is surprising that Lexus took this long to add a commonly sought after option in this segment.  Ten years ago, this would have been bigger news, but with the industry pivoting towards smaller crossovers, I expect response to be mutted.  The RX does two things, it gives Lexus an entry into the 3-row segment at minimal development and marketing costs, and it puts Lexus in the same league with BMW for absurd model trim names.  Click here for more information on the 2018 Lexus RX-L

    Competitors: Volvo XC90, Infiniti QX60, Acura MDX, Buick Enclave, Lincoln MKX/Nautilus

    2018 Lexus LX 570 Two-Row

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    The Details: The Lexus version of the Toyota Land Cruiser drops the third-row seats in favor of a larger cargo area. Two-row option only comes in a single trim level

    Why it Matters: It really doesn’t unless you’re a wealthy DINK with no friends.  As far as vehicle platforms go, the LX and Land Cruiser are ancient, debuting back in 2007. Already on its fourth remodel since arriving, we don’t see much life left.  Lexus only sells about 600 LXs per month.

    Competitors: Cadillac Escalade, Lincoln Navigator, Mercedes-Benz GLS, Audi Q7, Infiniti QX80 (all come with 3-rows)

    Up Next: Lincoln Nautilus and Lincoln MKC


    2019 Lincoln Nautilus

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    The Details: The Nautilus is a refreshed Lincoln MKX, but the most refreshing part about it is the return to a real name.  Power changes include a switch to an all turbocharged engine lineup. Base engine is a 2.3 liter turbocharged 4-cylinder producing 245 horsepower, optional is a 2.7 liter V6 with 335 horsepower and 380 lb-ft of torque.  Both engines are coupled to a front-wheel drive 8-speed automatic with all-wheel drive standard. Automatic stop/start is standard.

    Why it Matters: The MKX was already an excellent entry in the segment. While overall dimensions are unchanged, the Nautilus looks longer and sleeker than its MKX predecessor. Bringing the MKX up to date with the new Lincoln look was essential, but going back to a real name shows that Lincoln is ready to carve out a firm identity for itself. Click Here for more information on the 2019 Lincoln Nautilus

    Competitors: Lexus RX, Audi Q5, Cadillac XT5, Mercedes-Benz GLE, Acura MDX

    2019 Lincoln MKC

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    The Details: MKC moves to the new Lincoln look, but product planners didn’t come up with a name in time. Aside from that, the interior and mechanical features carry over.

    Why it Matters: This one is a head scratcher. I can only think that for some reason Lincoln didn’t think there were enough changes to the MKC to warrant a name change. People are inherently visual though, so even if there wasn’t an engine change under the hood, the visual change is distinctive enough that now is probably time to do a name change like the Lincoln Nautilus.  The MKC sells well, and with this handsome new update, I expect it to do even better. Click here for more information on the 2019 Lincoln MKC

    Next Up: Infiniti QX50 and QX80



     

    2019 Infiniti QX50

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    The Details: Infiniti finally replaces the old G37 based QX50, but that necessitates a move to front-wheel drive. The QX50 is the launch platform for Infiniti’s revolutionary new engine that is capable of a variable compression ratio.  The new 2.0T with VC can change the compression ratio from 8:1 to 14:1.

    Why it Matters: I’ll be sad to see the old QX50 go. In spite of its aging platform and interior electronics, it had a butter smoothness and great handling. It never really got a foothold in the market. But auto enthusiast feelings aside, this new QX50 is likely to be the bread and butter of Infiniti’s lineup for the foreseeable future.  It hits right in the bullseye of the compact luxury crossover market and does so with a compelling performance argument and a fantastic looking interior. Click here for more information on the 2019 Infiniti QX50

    Competitors: Lincoln MKC, Mercedes-Benz GLC, Acura RDX, Lexus NX, Audi Q3, Land Rover Evoque, Jaguar E-Pace

    2018 Infiniti QX80

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    The Details: QX80 gets an updated front clip and a massaged interior

    Why it Matters: Like the Lexus LX650, the QX80 rides on an older platform from a mass-market brand, in this case, the 2010 Nissan Patrol.  The 2017 Armada had a face only a mother could love, but with the update for 2018 it has grown substantially more handsome. The interior has been coiffed with attractive new quilted and stitched leather, though technology has not been updated to include the likes of Android Auto and Apple CarPlay.  Mechanically, the QX80 still uses the old 5.6 liter V8 producing 400 horsepower / 417 lb-ft of torque routed through a 7-speed automatic.  Fuel economy is a 1997 like 15 mpg combined.

    Competitors: Lexus LX560, Cadillac Escalade, Lincoln Navigator, Mercedes-Benz GLS, Audi Q7

     

    Next Up: Volvo XC40 and Land Rover Range Rover SVAutobiography


    2018 Volvo XC40

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    The Details: The XC40 is the first vehicle on Volvo’s new CMA platform.  It features a 248 hp 2 liter turbo four cylinder routing through an 8-speed automatic to all four wheels. People familiar with the controls from Volvo’s larger SPA platform vehicles like XC90 and S80 will feel right at home as most of touchy stuff is lifted straight from them. You will also be able to subscribe to the XC40 rather than buy or lease.  Basically a 15,000 mile a year lease that includes all maintenance and insurance.

    Why it Matters: Another entry straight at the heart of the compact luxury crossover market. The recent Volvos have been a hit and I expect this one to be as well. The floor display had a few questionable interior materials and some visible exterior manufacturing defects, so I hope those get sorted soon as these XC40s are rolling down the manufacturing line already. Volvo’s policy of electrifying every vehicle that make means that a plug-in hybrid version of the XC40 is coming, however the Volvo rep I spoke to refused to confirm.  Volvo’s subscription idea is intriguing and it will be interesting to see if it takes off. Click here for more information on the 2018 Volvo XC40

    2018 Range Rover SVAutobiography

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    The Details: An Ultra-Luxury Range Rover

    Why it Matters:  Are you a Russian Oil Tycoon or an NBA star?  If so, then it matters.  If not, just look at it and dream from behind the velvet ropes while the booth attendants sneer at you. It has power close rear doors, executive seating, and a new infotainment system. There is a hidden refrigerator in between the rear seats that holds two wine bottles plus two glasses and opens with the touch of a button. The closest competitor I can think of isn't an SUV at all, but the S-Class Maybach.  This is Land Rover's interpretation of the segment. 

    Competitors: Mercedes Benz GLS550 Designo, Bentley Bentaga, S-Class Maybach

     

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     I can only think that for some reason Lincoln didn’t think there were enough changes to the MKC to warrant a name change

     

    I forget where I read this, but a Lincoln executive said that was the key reason as to why the MKC didn't get a name change.

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    The Lexus SUVs really have me scratching my head! :scratchchin: Stretch a mid size CUV for a 3rd seat that really is only good for little kids and then remove the 3rd row from your full size SUV that is more inline with the competition.

    What are they thinking as it just does not make sense.

    It leaves me thinking that someone at Lexus is a car fan only and really only cares about the CUV/SUV cause they have to have something in that category but does not want to spend time or investment in it. Very out of touch thinking as Toyota / Lexus is already playing catchup to the rest of the industry for EV/Hybrids. Why miss out on the way the market has changed away from cars?

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    5 minutes ago, dfelt said:

    The Lexus SUVs really have me scratching my head! :scratchchin: Stretch a mid size CUV for a 3rd seat that really is only good for little kids and then remove the 3rd row from your full size SUV that is more inline with the competition.

    What are they thinking as it just does not make sense.b

    Makes sense to me, Toyota uses the same 3 row formula with the Highlander, which is on the same platform and wheelbase.  So I'm not surprised it's this way.   They have the GX and LX for the full-size market. 

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    14 minutes ago, William Maley said:

    I forget where I read this, but a Lincoln executive said that was the key reason as to why the MKC didn't get a name change.

    Yeah, I really think that it was enough of a visual update that they should have done it.   The Nautilus is not that different from the MKX on the touchy feely stuff that it deserved a new name and the MKC didn't. 

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    2 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    Makes sense to me, Toyota uses the same 3 row formula with the Highlander, which is on the same platform and wheelbase.  So I'm not surprised it's this way.   They have the GX and LX for the full-size market. 

    Guess I have not looked close enough at the Highlander, so it has the same 3rd row kiddy seats?

    Full size SUV, just have the 3rd seat as a Delete option like GM and Ford does with their full size. I bet more than less still want it.

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    4 minutes ago, dfelt said:

    Guess I have not looked close enough at the Highlander, so it has the same 3rd row kiddy seats?

    Full size SUV, just have the 3rd seat as a Delete option like GM and Ford does with their full size. I bet more than less still want it.

    The Highlander is a midsize CUV w/ 3 rows available.. Ford does it also on the Explorer.  Different market niche than full size.  I assume Cadillac will get in the game sooner or later with a 3 row XT5 (or an XT7?).

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    33 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    The 3rd-row delete on the LX doesn't make sense to me. They don't sell enough of them for it to matter much. 

    So are you saying it should have the 3rd seat or since they do not sell many LX, if the market questions show the 3rd seat was not a big deal for selling the LX, dropping it is just a way for increased profits for Lexus. 

    Just trying to understand where you stand on the 3rd row seat.

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    I can't imagine people are buying LXes as a family hauler...makes sense to go 2 row only; the Range Rover is, isn't it?  Leave the 3rd row to the family haulers, otherwise it's a waste of space...

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    2 hours ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    I can't imagine people are buying LXes as a family hauler...makes sense to go 2 row only; the Range Rover is, isn't it?  Leave the 3rd row to the family haulers, otherwise it's a waste of space...

    I thought the Range Rover offered those jump seats that fold up on both sides of the back area.

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    2 hours ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    I can't imagine people are buying LXes as a family hauler...makes sense to go 2 row only; the Range Rover is, isn't it?  Leave the 3rd row to the family haulers, otherwise it's a waste of space...

    The Range Rover is also significantly smaller. The LX is nearly Escalade/Navigator sized.

    My point was that it doesn't make sense to have a significantly different configuration for a vehicle that only sells 600 a month.

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    Agree on the interior room issue.

    12 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    The Range Rover is also significantly smaller. The LX is nearly Escalade/Navigator sized.

    My point was that it doesn't make sense to have a significantly different configuration for a vehicle that only sells 600 a month.

    Range Rover is also much more attractive.

    18 hours ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    The Highlander is a midsize CUV w/ 3 rows available.. Ford does it also on the Explorer.  Different market niche than full size.  I assume Cadillac will get in the game sooner or later with a 3 row XT5 (or an XT7?).

    Yes but the Highlander 3rd Row is a joke, actually.

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