Jump to content
Create New...
  • William Maley
    William Maley

    Did OnStar Accidently Confirm An SS Model In 2014?

    William Maley

    Editor/Reporter - CheersandGears.com

    April 25, 2012

    A few days after we caught wind of GM trademarking the SS nameplate, a blogger uncovered an interesting entry in a OnStar document.

    Christopher Price found on OnStar's vehicle compatibility guide that the 2014 Chevrolet lineup includes an "SS Performance" entry. Could this be the mysterious RWD Chevrolet sedan that we've been hearing about for the past few months?

    Source: christopherprice.net, Motoramic

    User Feedback

    Recommended Comments



    2014 Avalanche???

    No Colorado??????

    The Avalanche is puzzling, unless it will be gone for one year to create some demand from previous owners (most likely just a typo).

    Colorado is to be a 2015 model year truck, not calendar year (will be on-sale in calendar year 2014 though). <--- btw, that's the overall discussion from several places, not direct knowledge on my behalf.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Enough already it is coming unless there is any 11th hour changes. We know it will be an improved SWB Zeta and it will have the DI V8 as that is why we don't have it now.

    As for the Avalanche it may simply just be that the cancelation of it was recent enough it was not updated here.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Well, it doesn't surprise me that GM is planning on some kind of SS; there had always been one SS editions of various GM vehicles over the years.

    The big question is "which" model is getting an SS? It can be a Sierra, it can be a Cruze, it can be a Malibu, an Impala, and maybe even a Sonic! Depending on which model it is (or perhaps more than one model) this may or may not be very interesting to one person or another.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Come on guys you are acting like a bunch of honda owners on Auto Blog.

    You know as well as I do that Mark Ruess has made it clear he wanted the SWB Zeta back here after Pontiac left. We also know from public statments From Al Oppenheiser – Vehicle Chief Engineer, Global Rear Wheel Drive Vehicles that they were working on a RWD performance sedan when he said interanlly this was called the 4 DR Camaro and it would be here around 2014.

    The hold up on this car was the improvments the Zeta was getting in cutting weight and the VVT DI V8 that will first be offered in the new Vette.

    The only mystery to this whole deal is what the name is that they chose long ago per Al's statment. The only outstanding factor is that would there be some 11th hour issue that would kill the car at the last moment.

    While GM has been quiet on many of their cars this was one that a few in high places has spoke out on.

    We also it will be limited so don't expect 50,000 plus units and it more than not will be at or just over $40,000 as it will come mostly loaded unless they have changed their minds. Do not expect a V6 right now and if it ever got one it would be a TT V6. Note my pricing is based on the Regal GS. You know a loaded Zeta Sedan will be around the price of a loaded Camaro SS and higher than a Regal GS Turbo.

    Sorry no games here either with CNG as production is so small they will not fool with any odd limited options on an already limited car.

    So forget the typo, Forget the Caprice, Foget a Sonic SS etc.

    Think of this as an Improved, more powerful, lighter [by little] G8 GXP.

    Chevy Builds Performance!

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    chevy_ss.jpg

    C'mon. Don't tell me I'm the only one who thought of this thing.

    Yes I thought of it, but while it is a lovely design and a drivers car maybe, the rear head room looks to be terrible. I do not see this as the actual car.

    Hyper why not have CNG since they all ready do it down there?

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    75,000+ people on the web thought of the SS show car but it will still be a Zeta.

    As for CNG there is nothing wrong with it but it just will not be offered on a limited vehicle in a unproven market. Let the truck intro the umproved systems to the unwashed masses and let them see what the trucks can do and then work it into cars if demand warrants.

    Diesel is a good idea too but when the American market is not crying out for it you can't force them to buy them. These alt fuels need to be prove to the American public and then we will see some growth.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    75,000+ people on the web thought of the SS show car but it will still be a Zeta.

    Well, yeah. It'll be Zeta, everyone knows that.

    I know I'm dreaming here, but I think it would be nice if a few styling elements below the SS Concept's beltline made it onto whatever comes out next year. My worst fear, which will undoubtedly be confirmed, is that it'll look like those Autoblog renderings that hit the web a few days ago. The Holden Caprice/Chevrolet Caprice has the appropriate roofline and glasshouse to keep those elements of the concept car intact while improving headroom (not that anyone should be pointing out how the SS Concept didn't have any headroom anyway).

    Edited by black-knight
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    75,000+ people on the web thought of the SS show car but it will still be a Zeta.

    Well, yeah. It'll be Zeta, everyone knows that.

    I know I'm dreaming here, but I think it would be nice if a few styling elements below the SS Concept's beltline made it onto whatever comes out next year. My worst fear, which will undoubtedly be confirmed, is that it'll look like those Autoblog renderings that hit the web a few days ago. The Holden Caprice/Chevrolet Caprice has the appropriate roofline and glasshouse to keep those elements of the concept car intact while improving headroom (not that anyone should be pointing out how the SS Concept didn't have any headroom anyway).

    :pokeowned:

    I think you hit it on the head. The beltline styling elements and a few others I really hope are incorporated into the new SS Performance for the Holden Caprice. This would give you one sweet looking ride with room for all. :)

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    The way I look at it is they establish this car as a image model that will show a profit even in low volume it will reflect onto the other cars.

    As time goes on the Zeta will be replaced at some point and with Holden and Chevy becoming one the styling will be adjusted more and more to reflect both brands. The car we get soon will not remain the same for very long.

    I would not be suprised if a expaned Alpha sedan may be based on this model at some point. Or they could take the new Omega and make it smaller so it could share the cost of the flag ship Cadillac with the SS model and even the Poiice Caprice. Cadillac will need a dance partner on the flag ship. The platform may be shared but little else would be.

    Lets face it the Zeta while not as old as the W body is becoming the old platform at GM. If there are enough sales and demand here and down under it would justify the demands of the supporters within GM to do a new RWD platform to replace it in the future. While the Zeta can improve a little more like the W was there are limits on how much. A new car would be like the Alpha with few limits.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    The hold up on this car was the improvments the Zeta was getting in cutting weight and the VVT DI V8 that will first be offered in the new Vette.

    Essentially the VE-to-VF Commodore transition, then, perhaps minus the DI V8... Makes sense to wait if that lightening up means squeezing a couple of extra MPG for CAFE purposes...

    Edited by ZL-1
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    The way I look at it is they establish this car as a image model that will show a profit even in low volume it will reflect onto the other cars.

    As time goes on the Zeta will be replaced at some point and with Holden and Chevy becoming one the styling will be adjusted more and more to reflect both brands. The car we get soon will not remain the same for very long.

    I would not be suprised if a expaned Alpha sedan may be based on this model at some point. Or they could take the new Omega and make it smaller so it could share the cost of the flag ship Cadillac with the SS model and even the Poiice Caprice. Cadillac will need a dance partner on the flag ship. The platform may be shared but little else would be.

    Lets face it the Zeta while not as old as the W body is becoming the old platform at GM. If there are enough sales and demand here and down under it would justify the demands of the supporters within GM to do a new RWD platform to replace it in the future. While the Zeta can improve a little more like the W was there are limits on how much. A new car would be like the Alpha with few limits.

    I wonder if the new platform could be a lightweight version of an AWD with Twin Turbo 4 & 6 engines for performance as the SS and Police versions and yet have a volume of FWD appliances that are appealing enough to replace all those ugly forgetable FWD appliances from Toyo and Ford.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Lets not get too far ahead yet. Just expect a more powerful DI V8 in a RWD sedan. If things go well we may see a AWD special edition later on. The TT Turbo may also appear down the road. For now I expect them to keep it simple for the first year or two and then I would expect special more limited edtitions like Holden does.

    This is more an image car than volume. They will work to keep it fresh.

    The idea that it is going to NASCAR says a lot of what they expect this car will do for Chevys image.

    Also note if they are going to the effort of using it in NASCAR there will be no last min plugs pulled like on the Elcamino etc. GM is already commitied to run the car in that series and will have to build it to make it legal. So even if you hate NASCAR the series is going to do some good in locking the car into production.

    • Agree 1
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    The idea that it is going to NASCAR says a lot of what they expect this car will do for Chevys image.

    Yes ... and if that "SS" IS the new NASCAR entry and Ch#$r%*et's own press release is to believed, then it MUST be a 2013 model ... unless NASCAR plans to change THEIR rules AGAIN.

    Plus, it MUST have a NEW name to the brand, not an old, recycled name.

    Cort | 38.m.IL | pigValve + paceMaker + cowValve | 5 MCs + 1 Caprice Classic

    CHD.MCs.CC + RoadTrips.hobbies.RadioShows.us66 = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort

    * rNwJumpStartCruzNite | 5:30-10:30p; SAT, 05/12/12 | BeefVilla, 1225 W Spring St, S Elgin IL *

    "Only emptiness remains; it replaces all ... all the pain" __ Martika __ 'Toy Soldiers'

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Yes NASCAR did make a change.

    The way I saw it explained by NASCAR was it would be 2014 model but it would be available in early 2014. In other words the race car will hit the track in Feb at Daytona and the public will get the cars in Mach? The time span was not much different. It will be like the 2004 GP roll out in March of 2003.

    As for name that is still a toss up as nothing solid has been given. A web site predicting the future can be changed easily.

    It will have a SS tag along with another name and at this point no one outside GM seems to know if it is old or new. The only thing we do know is that Al called it the SS Peformance Sedan and that they had the name chosen at the least a year and a half ago when he spoke of it.

    The name mystery is as deep here as the I Phone 6 release date mystery.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    CNG won't happen on this car simply because Holden's system is a dedicated CNG system rather than a dual fuel system.

    We don't have the infrastructure for that just yet.

    As for the rest of this, the car will be a sedan so my interest is limited.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    When are they going to reveal this car? In March I read it was going to show up at the New York International Auto Show, but that didn't happen...

    It should show up next year at the 2013 Daytona 500.

    I thought I read in that article somewhere that it would debut at the Auto Show. Maybe it was a different one I read or maybe I read it wrong.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Here is where I saw it at: http://www.jayski.com/teams/chevy.htm

    Chevy to replace Impala in 2013 with another Chevy brand: Chevrolet is developing a new car with a new name for its 2013 NASCAR entry, replacing the Impala used by Team Chevy, and plans to eventually market and sell the new model to consumers. The dealership and racing versions of the car will be unveiled this year, after the New York auto show in April, spokesman Monte Doran said. The new car will use a nameplate not currently in Chevy’s lineup. Neither the car nor its name will be a derivative of an existing one, such as the new Malibu or the upcoming redesigned Impala, Doran said. General Motors wouldn’t reveal details. “We are keeping the wraps on the new car for now and will continue to prepare for next season by testing camouflaged vehicles,” Jim Campbell, vice president of Chevrolet performance vehicles and motorsports, said in a statement. “We know that Chevrolet fans are eager to see the new race car, and we hope that the prospect of being able to own one just like it will make the wait a little more bearable.”

    The new car may be a version of the Chevy Caprice currently imported from Australia for U.S. police forces. Inside GM, a plan to develop a Chevy performance sedan like the Caprice for consumers was on-and-off in recent years because of concerns that it wasn’t a high-profit vehicle, people familiar with the situation said. Australia’s Holden brand currently offers consumers a variation on the U.S. Caprice. Along with developing the new performance sedan, GM is redesigning the current Impala, which will be built at the Detroit-Hamtramck plant and is expected to hit showrooms by spring 2013. The automaker is also rolling out a redesigned Malibu.(Detroit Free Press, more at MotorTrend and a past post at AutoWeek)(3-13-2013)

    I did read it somewhat wrong though. It just says after the auto show, not at the auto show...

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    We will see the race car soon as they will begin testing it shortly. I assume the street car may show up at a show this year even before this years NY show.

    This is one they will have a hard time hiding since the track testing will leave it out in the open. They still can hide the name but some of the body details will be shown even in primer.

    Might note too I have noticed Jimmy johnson Lowes car has adopted the old Chevelle SS Stripe. Also he used a special GM Color at Kansas that was used ont he Chevelle and Camaro.

    Note I corrected my early AM typo post for those who tend to be overtly immature.

    Edited by hyperv6
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    As for name that is still a toss up as nothing solid has been given. A web site predicting the future can be changed easily.

    It will have a SS tag along with another name and at this point no one outside GM seems to know if it is old or new. The only thing we do know is that Al called it the SS Peformance Sedan and that they had the name chosen at the least a year and a half ago when he spoke of it.

    True, a web site predicting the future can be changed, but a PRESS RELEASE by GM canNOT be changed. That press release stated a NEW name to the brand, which means that it canNOT be an old nameplate. Period. Ch#$r%*et wasn't smart enough to clarify.

    And, it doesn't sound like a change, per se. The car will be a 2014 model, available in 2013. So, the nameplate raced WILL be a nameplate sold at the dealerships at the same time.

    Cort | 38.m.IL | pigValve + paceMaker + cowValve | 5 MCs + 1 Caprice Classic

    CHD.MCs.CC + RoadTrips.hobbies.RadioShows.us66 = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort

    * rNwJumpStartCruzNite | 5:30-10:30p; SAT, 05/12/12 | BeefVilla, 1225 W Spring St, S Elgin IL *

    "Play with the fire and your gonna get burned" __ Steve Wariner __ 'Some Fools Never Learn'

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    New name can be taken different ways. Is it a new name never used before or is it a new name that is not being currently used. It could go either way. We only know for sure is it already has one per GM, it is just unknown to us.. To me it matters little what it is called as I have no hang up it has to be a old or new name mor the number off doors it has. I just want it built.

    Note just some trivia. The Fiero name was originally the Peguses and was changed so late for some unknown reason today to Fiero so late was the change that the emblem kept the Flying Horse in it. GM fell back to a name Fiero that they claimed ment Proud in Itallian and chosen outr of a book in a late night meeting. But that did not explain the use of the name in 1a 968 show car the Firebird Fiero where it ment FIrebird Aero Concept. In other words the one name was rejected and they pulled out one they owned the rights to and semi applied a meaning to it.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    This is exciting as no one seems to have seen any new Name filing with the pattent office so I must assume the name will be new, but old. One they already have the rights to use but has not been in use for the last 10 years or longer.

    Wonder if this car could be a new Beretta or GTO?

    Looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_General_Motors

    I have to assume the name will be something from their history bin.

    Anyone have a complete list of Auto Names for GM?

    Forbes has a interesting story on Weirdest, worst and best names in the auto industry. Not sure I totally agree with them. http://www.forbes.com/2004/07/12/cx_dl_0712feat.html

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Someone brought up Monte Carlo as a possible name, which makes sense given the NASCAR angle. I guess we just have to wait and see..

    I could understand this if it was not for the fact that allot of people do not have the best memories of this car. With GM having owned so many other car companies, they are sitting on a ton of new / Old names. That is why I think they could pull something out of the Pontiac/Oldmobile/ older current names.

    New/Old Auto Names

    Chevy Torpedo

    Chevy BelAir

    Chevy Firebird

    Chevy Skylark

    Chevy Cutlass

    Chevy Hellcat

    I think the name used will be older than 10-15 years old from the history bins.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    The only one i san see out of those making any sense is Bel Air. Even GM isn't stupid enough to trip over its own history and give a Buick, Olds, or Pontiac name to a Chevy, especially the storied ones like you mentioned.

    Given that the car is a cousin of the Caprice, Bel Air is appropriate from a historical perspective. Whether or not it belongs on a performance-themed sedan is up for debate, but I'd be for it.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    It is "new car" with a "name not currently" in the "North American" "Chevrolet brand"

    lots of wiggle room there.

    The only one i san see out of those making any sense is Bel Air. Even GM isn't stupid enough to trip over its own history and give a Buick, Olds, or Pontiac name to a Chevy, especially the storied ones like you mentioned.

    Given that the car is a cousin of the Caprice, Bel Air is appropriate from a historical perspective. Whether or not it belongs on a performance-themed sedan is up for debate, but I'd be for it.

    It also kinda goes with Malibu.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    It is "new car" with a "name not currently" in the "North American" "Chevrolet brand"

    lots of wiggle room there.

    The only one i san see out of those making any sense is Bel Air. Even GM isn't stupid enough to trip over its own history and give a Buick, Olds, or Pontiac name to a Chevy, especially the storied ones like you mentioned.

    Given that the car is a cousin of the Caprice, Bel Air is appropriate from a historical perspective. Whether or not it belongs on a performance-themed sedan is up for debate, but I'd be for it.

    It also kinda goes with Malibu.

    Well, the Commodore was sold as the Lumina SS in the Middle East...but I can't see Lumina making an NA comeback. Chevelle, Laguna, or Caprice would be good choices, IMO. Past Chevy big car names like Bel Air, Delray, Biscayne seem too old-timey, along with Fleetline, Master, Master Deluxe, etc...

    Edited by Cubical-aka-Moltar
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Commodore means little to most Americans. I would include it in the possibilities but I would rate it as a low chance of beig used.

    I had considered Laguna but it was not real popular. I had considered Bel Air SS I like the sound and it would fit with the Caprice in a way as in the past Chevy used different names in the same lime like 210. Biscayne Bel Air etc.

    Chevelle is close to the Malibu but the Chevelle name was never used on small FWD car.

    Nova is too cheap of a name to use on a $40K car.

    I hate to say it but Monte Carlos connection to NASCAR is strong and it has been a big name for Chevy for years. Adding two doors did not hurt the Challanger like many thought and adding two doors to a powerful great handling sports sedan should do well.

    As much as I would love to see an older name not used in along time like Bel Air I thing it may get Monte Carlo in the end. Just a hunch.

    You can forget Lumina, Cutlass, GTO or any other division name. GM looks like they are keeping a little retro in all their new cars. Most seem to use a old name or like the impala updated older emblems.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Anyone paying attention that a V6 may be on for 2015 and the wagon and ute car being considered on the Zeta II.

    I know we have been throught this before but with Mark running the NA market and chapter 11 issue now behind they may have a chance. This may be why we are seeing Chevy push a limited edition sedan in NASCAR. It kind of make sense now.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    This is exciting as no one seems to have seen any new Name filing with the pattent office so I must assume the name will be new, but old. One they already have the rights to use but has not been in use for the last 10 years or longer.

    Yes, I've thought about that, too.

    *rolls eyes*

    It is "new car" with a "name not currently" in the "North American" "Chevrolet brand"

    Nice try, Drew. That "name not currently" phrase was in an article. That was NOT the Ch#$r%*et press release.

    THIS is the press release wording:

    The countdown to the debut of Chevrolet’s next NASCAR Sprint Cup Series racecar is underway. Chevrolet announced today that for the 2013 season, Team Chevy will be racing a vehicle based on a new nameplate to the brand’s lineup.

    Taking advantage of the new NASCAR rules, which allow manufacturers to display more of their brand identity in their racecars, the new Chevrolet racecar will closely resemble the production version. Both cars will be unveiled in the coming year.

    Since they used the phrase, "new nameplate to the brand's lineup", this implies a name never seen in the lineup before. Oh, I know the wiggle room. Trouble is, Ch#$r%*et, in its INFINITE wisdom, wasn't smart enough TO clarify. Their own fault. Period.

    And, hyper, GM has proven before that it doesn't care whether or not an old name was used on FWD or not. Look at the Nova, Monte Carlo, Impala and Malibu. Besides, I thought this "SS" model was supposed to be RWD, anyway...? And ... adding 2 doors didn't hurt the Charger, not the Challenger.

    Cort | 38.m.IL | pigValve + paceMaker + cowValve | 5 MCs + 1 Caprice Classic

    CHD.MCs.CC + RoadTrips.hobbies.RadioShows.us66 = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort

    * rNw-CC+event: http://rdwhl-capriceclassic.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=whatsgoingon *

    "Can you make these big wheels burn?" __ Ronnie Milsap __ 'Smokey Mountain Rain'

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    LOL! I wasn't rolling my eyes AT you ... I was rolling my eyes at the fact that you pointed out, about which I had been thinking.....

    Cort | 38.m.IL | pigValve + paceMaker + cowValve | 5 MCs + 1 Caprice Classic

    CHD.MCs.CC + RoadTrips.hobbies.RadioShows.us66 = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort

    * rNwJumpStartCruzNite | 5:30-10:30p; SAT, 05/12/12 | BeefVilla, 1225 W Spring St, S Elgin IL *

    "What happened next is hard to tell" __ Ray Stevens __ 'Mississippi Squirrel Revival'

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    LOL! I wasn't rolling my eyes AT you ... I was rolling my eyes at the fact that you pointed out, about which I had been thinking.....

    Cort | 38.m.IL | pigValve + paceMaker + cowValve | 5 MCs + 1 Caprice Classic

    CHD.MCs.CC + RoadTrips.hobbies.RadioShows.us66 = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort

    * rNwJumpStartCruzNite | 5:30-10:30p; SAT, 05/12/12 | BeefVilla, 1225 W Spring St, S Elgin IL *

    "What happened next is hard to tell" __ Ray Stevens __ 'Mississippi Squirrel Revival'

    No offense taken, I am feeling too good and considering opening another bottle of wine. :P You have an awesome weekend. :D

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    This is exciting as no one seems to have seen any new Name filing with the pattent office so I must assume the name will be new, but old. One they already have the rights to use but has not been in use for the last 10 years or longer.

    Yes, I've thought about that, too.

    *rolls eyes*

    It is "new car" with a "name not currently" in the "North American" "Chevrolet brand"

    Nice try, Drew. That "name not currently" phrase was in an article. That was NOT the Ch#$r%*et press release.

    THIS is the press release wording:

    The countdown to the debut of Chevrolet’s next NASCAR Sprint Cup Series racecar is underway. Chevrolet announced today that for the 2013 season, Team Chevy will be racing a vehicle based on a new nameplate to the brand’s lineup.

    Taking advantage of the new NASCAR rules, which allow manufacturers to display more of their brand identity in their racecars, the new Chevrolet racecar will closely resemble the production version. Both cars will be unveiled in the coming year.

    Since they used the phrase, "new nameplate to the brand's lineup", this implies a name never seen in the lineup before. Oh, I know the wiggle room. Trouble is, Ch#$r%*et, in its INFINITE wisdom, wasn't smart enough TO clarify. Their own fault. Period.

    And, hyper, GM has proven before that it doesn't care whether or not an old name was used on FWD or not. Look at the Nova, Monte Carlo, Impala and Malibu. Besides, I thought this "SS" model was supposed to be RWD, anyway...? And ... adding 2 doors didn't hurt the Charger, not the Challenger.

    Cort | 38.m.IL | pigValve + paceMaker + cowValve | 5 MCs + 1 Caprice Classic

    CHD.MCs.CC + RoadTrips.hobbies.RadioShows.us66 = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort

    * rNw-CC+event: http://rdwhl-caprice...rd=whatsgoingon *

    "Can you make these big wheels burn?" __ Ronnie Milsap __ 'Smokey Mountain Rain'

    Again sematics. new only means not being used now. So the fact remains it could go either way.

    Challanger- Charger you knew what I ment. Either of these cars mean little to me other than it may make GM bring back RWD. I really don't like either Dodge offering.

    As for FWD/RWD SS can go on anything that has class leading Goes, Stops and Turns ability.

    The Coibalt and HHR SS are good examples where FWD cars done right can out perform many and most SS from the past stock. Modified they are also still right there with the times I have seen posted. The market now has a strong FWD following and if you do not address it sales will be lost. SS mean performance and if used on a proper car I have no issue. Now the 85 Monte Carlo and 96 Malibu SS are reasons not to use SS unless it has real performace ability in all areas.

    We should know soon enough what the new name will be. To me it matters little as long as the car is right for the class in performance and styling.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Again sematics. new only means not being used now. So the fact remains it could go either way.

    True, it could go either way. BUT...the idea that "new" only means "not being used now" is shaky, at best, particularly since it was used in an article and NOT in the official GM press release.

    The wording of that infamous press release is:

    Team Chevy will be racing a vehicle based on a new nameplate to the brand’s lineup.

    The wiggle room here would've been far greater had Ch#$r%*et had the wisdom to leave it as "...a vehicle based on a new nameplate." It would've been very clear had they noted it as "a vehicle based on a new nameplate not currently used." But, instead, they added the phrase "to the brand's lineup." If the name is Monte Carlo, Chevelle, Caprice, etc., that will make that entire statement FALSE since all of those names are NOT new nameplates to the brand's lineup.

    Arguing semantics? Yes. BUT ... if an individual had made that sort of statement, the public would've torn that individual to pieces. I'm tired of us as a society ragging on individuals for miscues like this, but letting companies get away with crap, extortion, etc. Not acceptable.

    And, frankly, it never bothered me that "SS" was used on FWD at all.

    Cort | 38.m.IL | pigValve + paceMaker + cowValve | 5 MCs + 1 Caprice Classic

    CHD.MCs.CC + RoadTrips.hobbies.RadioShows.us66 = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort

    * rNwJumpStartCruzNite | 5:30-10:30p; SAT, 05/12/12 | BeefVilla, 1225 W Spring St, S Elgin IL *

    "How could I be so blind?" __ Charly McClain __ 'Who's Cheating Who'

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    There was never any "96 Malibu SS" car, ;-)

    True, but this does not seem to go with what their press release says. I still think they are going to pull something out of the bag from a dead brand.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    There was never any "96 Malibu SS" car, ;-)

    Ok so we found one person that cared? Sorry LOL!

    The 2006 Malibu SS. :rolleyes:

    :confused0071: You telling me that poser was an SS????? :rage:

    JK I see the sarcasm in your eyes! :P

    Edited by dfelt
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites




    Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
    Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

    Guest
    Add a comment...

    ×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

      Only 75 emoji are allowed.

    ×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

    ×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

    ×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • google-news-icon.png



  • google-news-icon.png

  • Subscribe to Cheers & Gears

    Cheers and Gears Logo

    Since 2001 we've brought you real content and honest opinions, not AI-generated stuff with no feeling or opinions influenced by the manufacturers.

    Please consider subscribing. Subscriptions can be as little as $1.75 a month, and a paid subscription drops most ads.*
     

    You can view subscription options here.

    *a very limited number of ads contain special coupon deals for our members and will show

  • Posts

    • EVgo, a publicly traded national company offering public fast charging stations across North America teamed up with various auto companies like GM, Toyota and Subaru to offer fast charging stations access to customers of newly purchased electric vehicles. EVgo had 1,000 public EV stations in August of 2023, and a year later in 2024 they opened their 2,000th DC fast charging station and are on pace to finish out 2024 with 2,850 DC fast charging stations nationwide. This is 390 locations in 45 metropolitan markets across 32 states. This is part of a longstanding collaboration to expand public access to EV charging in amenity-rich locations, such as grocery stores, retail centers and city centers. EVgo believes they can offer a convenient charging experience for those that cannot charge at home or work and include those such as renters living in apartments or multifamily dwellings where there is no local charging available. The newest EVgo charging stations are five dual 350kW chargers serving 10 vehicles simultaneously. EVgo plans to take this new format forward into the future across the U.S. with their newly closed $1.25 Billion guaranteed loan from the U.S. Department of Energy ("DOE") loan program under title 17 Clean Energy Financing Program which will go to pay for building our EVgo's reliable public charging infrastructure for electric vehicles. This secured loan will allow EVgo to construct 7,500 new DC Fast charging stations nationwide. This buildout will bring EVgo's total owned and operated network to at least 10,000 fast charging stations, tripling the EVgo footprint by 2029. EVgo CEO, Badar Khan stated; “As one of the nation’s leading public fast charging providers, we are well-positioned to deploy the infrastructure needed to support both current and future domestic investments in transportation electrification. This public-private partnership will help us continue to scale our operations to serve the influx of vehicle options that will be available to American consumers in the coming years.” EV's now account for 9% of new vehicle sales and with the investments by the auto industry in EV with more and more new models coming out for sale, this will give increasing consumer confidence in the availability of public charging. This DOE loan will not only allow EVgo to expand and grow their company but will be contributing to the creation of more than 1,000 jobs in the U.S., over 700 of which will be contacted resources by EVgo that will encompass roles in construction, engineering, development, and operations and maintenance. The closing of this loan marks the conclusion of a thorough 18-month process. Terms of EVgo $1.25 Billion Guaranteed Loan This loan allows EVgo to move forward with offering innovation of next generation charging systems that EVgo will have joint development and secured domestic intellectual property rights. This new system will allow EVgo  more control over the full customer experience, streamlining the charging process as it delivers energy efficiency and cost savings. The new architecture will be rolled out nationally beginning in the second half of 2026 in partnership with Delta Electronics. This collaboration will allow the next generation of DC fast chargers to offer an all-in-one power electronics, contactless payment interface while delivering a minimum of 400kW dispensers using extended cable lengths that allow easier maneuverability to reach any charging port. EVgo is focused on giving the consumer an easy tap to pay system using current chipped credit/debit cards or giving a richer experience to those that choose to sign up for an EVgo account. This delivers on EVgo focus to serve all EV drivers, regardless of the make or model of their vehicle. The joint development of next generation charging stations will allow EVgo to implement a variety of station configurations that will serve individual EVs or those with trailers easier to maximize the customer experience. The new system will deliver a faster, more efficient charging experience by taking advantage of each EVs unique charging curves, allowing to maximize the re-charge of ones battery while reducing energy consumption and costs. View full article
    • A man was ecstatic to have entered into a relationship with a nymphomaniac. However, the nympho aspect faded away in short order while the maniac persona remained.
    • A woman went to a psychiatrist and said, "I believe I may be a nymphomaniac." The psychiatrist said, "I believe I can help you with that.  My fee is $80 an hour."
    • Interesting musical chairs I recently learned about. ITA Airways was recently acquired by Lufthansa. ITA, and preceding Alitalia, were in SkyTeam, headed up by Delta along with Air France and KLM.  ITA came across as an unwanted stepchild for the more fastidious French and Dutch.  SkyTeam is pricey, as are their award redemption tiers. With this transaction, ITA joins Star Alliance, headed up by United and with Lufthansa and Air Canada in the consortium.  I'm happy about this.  At least I am right now.
    • I don't feel religion is bad.  I have one.  It's the dogmatic "holier than thou" crowd - usually older ladies who go to socialize and gossip - that drives people away. Ukraine has the right to exist peacefully the way we've known it to be for some 30 to 40 years.  The death toll is harrowing, and it's hard to think about the children, elderly, and invalids they've killed or maimed.  And these instigators claim to believe in God.  Not.
  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online
  • My Clubs

×
×
  • Create New...

Hey there, we noticed you're using an ad-blocker. We're a small site that is supported by ads or subscriptions. We rely on these to pay for server costs and vehicle reviews.  Please consider whitelisting us in your ad-blocker, or if you really like what you see, you can pick up one of our subscriptions for just $1.75 a month or $15 a year. It may not seem like a lot, but it goes a long way to help support real, honest content, that isn't generated by an AI bot.

See you out there.

Drew
Editor-in-Chief

Write what you are looking for and press enter or click the search icon to begin your search