Drew Dowdell

Nuh uh!!! Doesn't work that way. If you're compairing performance cars, you have to compair important things like the quality of the plastic and legroom. I "lost" an argument in another thread where I was trying to compair the CTS-v to the M5 and how the current CTS-v compaired favorably on the track to the old M5. I hypothisized that the NG CTS-v with 500HP would compair favorably to the M5. The responses I got? The BMW is a better performer because of the dash plastic and front passenger legroom while ignoring the $25k price premium.

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It looks nothing like a Cavalier. Not even close. If you said it looked like a previous generation Grand Prix, I'd give ya that. But that said... remember when the boxy cars with big bold grills were so uncool? and small grill, aero were in? Now, the boxy \, big grill cars are in..... and small grill, aero cars are out.

Edit: Never mind... you just removed the link from the top of the page....

Seeing as I actually own a CTS and I've rented a 300c. I can say that the touch on the Chryslers compaired to the Cadillac is fairly similar with a slight edge to the Cadillac. As far as the "cheap seats"... what you can't really see in the pic is the suead insert. The regular seats in my CTS are extremely comfortable and fit me like a glove while still being firm. The comfort of the seat feel and seating position was a *major* selling point for me. I can make 7 hour trips without stopping and not be uncomfortable.

well, the 4 speed will probably be there...

Uh, isn't Harley's newest engine the pinicle of design and co-developed with Porche?

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Um... because they are already redesigning the interior. If the NG CTS is an '08 we have about an 18 month wait till we see it. If it's anything like the renderings I've seen, every wish you have about the CTS's interior has been granted. The Catera was a decent car. I liked it especially after it's facelift. Cadillac needs a 3-series fighter. The BLS <should be BTS>, would be a good start assuming they can put an AWD system in it. Audi fights BMW just fine without rear wheel drive. The 9-3 is an econobox?

The type it attracts? Like the type of people that bought an X-type, TSX, last gen IS, C-class coupe or G20? You'll come back at me and say "Well none of them except the TSX sold very well". True, but they were poorly executed cars. <again, exept the TSX>. The BLS could sell ok if it was executed right. It's just what the expectations are set at. If they forcast for and built 30,000 of them they'd probably sell each and every one. 15,000 in the states, 10,000 in China, and 5,000 in Europe. Besides, they've obviously already bought the tooling for them. What's the problem with sticking them on a boat and seeing if you can move a few over here.

Except that the 9-3 and the BLS share a price point... so it's not that the BLS is based on a cheaper car. Your analagy would have been closer if you said the Cobalt is related to the G5 in the same way the 9-3 is related to the Cadillac.

Put an awsome AWD system in there and we'd overlook it I'm sure.

68 this is directed at you! The CTS is less then an inch different then the BMW 5-series in both overall length and in wheel base. STOP saying the CTS is a 3-series sized car. You are wrong today and you've been wrong every other time you've posted that "fact".

I think Audi, Volvo, and Acura would like to have a word with you.

Does this mean that Zeta will also be replacing W-body... or will that be more Epsilon II's job?

Yippy... I'll make myself a mayo on white sandwich to celebrate.

I don't think it is fair to compair an 83 Cavalier to a 2003 9-3.

The 5-speed in the CTS is usually smart enough to pick the right gear for you... even when pushing it hard. I would imagin the 6-speed would be similar.

Well the list was obviously written by a heterosexual.... and as representatives of the gay community, it's our job to keep it acurate.

That's what makes it fun! Besides, I don't really like gay people*..... so it's fun to poke fun at them. *even though I am gay people... and I mean gay people in general... the gay people on this site are cool. Doesn't it suck when your P.S. is longer then your original post?

Uh at least 3 of the guys that posted in this thread are openly gay. We're all cool with it.

Pages take fooooooreeeevvvverrrrr to load.... and dance around a lot.

Electra should be a trim level for the eventual hybrids. Hmm... just imagin..... Buick Lacross Electra Buick Lacross Super Electra Buick V'elite Electra

I definately fall into the "no body hardware" crowd.

Honda Element.... just.... no. No trendy gay man would buy one of those. Elements are more for the "nester" type. A trendy gay man would buy a 3-series. The 3-series is even MORE of a status symbol in gay-land. Every young gay guy wants one without knowing why. Some say it's genetic others say it's do to trauma during their youth. I still say it's hogwash and you can choose to not like BMW if they really wanted to. I sometimes think that my ambivilance towards BMW has turned into dislike simply because of the sneers I get from young gay BMW owners <and young gay Jetta owners who wish they could afford a BMW>, when they find out I drive a CTS.