Drew Dowdell

Hey, at least it's getting a real name and not "B8"

I agree.... but Cadillac doesn't have an S-Class/7-series/A8 fighter ready to go anytime soon. Should Cadillac just give up those not insignificant sales of the DTS? Sure it's a Lucerne De Lux.... but they still do get to charge the premium for it.

I'm going to guess that an LS6 is substantially less complex than an HF3.6 VVT.

That was a 747 that flew over your head....

uh.... Lincoln LS?

12 is always something to brag about. 8 is usually something to brag about. Who ever brags about a 6 or a 4? :AH-HA_wink:

I did... and I can't get the price that high even with the engine block heater checked. The only way I could get that number was to go with the 18" wheel option package.

The same person that would rice out a Hoover.

Uh... 1996 Olds LSS 1996 Pontiac Gran Prix 1996 Buick Regal GS were all within 10HP of that. The HP increase may level off, but I don't think we'll see another decline in HP like we did in the late 70's early 80's.

Tantastic is a chain here in Pittsburgh

I think you're correct, but that doesn't mean I like it. The down side is even a 300hp V6 doesn't have the low down torque a 300hp V8 has.

Perhaps GM is a fault for having coolant with a longer service interval than their gaskets.

Since when is a bad gasket the problem of Dex-Cool?

I'm waiting for the Uplander SS man!

You're thinking about it from the wrong angle. Think about trying to package an I-6 transversly. The I6 is, mathmatically, the most harmonicly balanced engine setup <for automobiles>. This is where BMW gets their reputation for "turbine like" smoothness. VW is attempting to have the same smoothness in a smaller package. By using a 15 degree angle, they get very very very close to the harmonic balance of an I6 while getting the packaging closer to an I4. Plus, they only use two camshafts on their V6.

Because BMW Trend tells people to buy BMWs and the 3-series is at the price point a lot of people can afford. The CTS drives and handles so close to the 3-series that the difference can be made up in driver skill yet the CTS is the size of a 5er.

Then I guess the 5er is crap because it takes over 1/2 a meter more to make a turn.

I drive a CTS nearly every day. It is one of the most manuverable cars I've driven. It has a very tight turning radius for it's length and is very easy to park. Here are some turning diameters. BMW 3-series: 10.5 meters Cadillac CTS: 10.82 meters BMW 5-series: 11.4 meters Mini Cooper: 10.6 meters Acura TSX: 12.19 meters Audi A4: 11.09 meters MB C-Clas: 10.7 meters Lexus ES: 11.2 meters The CTS's turning diameter is about the a sheet of paper's difference larger than the 3-series and over half a meter smaller than the 5-series it is nearly identical to in size. Satty, FWD makes a car less manuverable in tight situations. None of the front drivers I looked up could come close to the 3er or CTS. To drive home this point: Solara: 11.4 meters IS250: 10.2 meters

Veeeery interesting development. If these get the 3.6 AND a 6-speed, they should outperform the Vue Redline.

Packaging. They managed to get an 8-cylinder into the nose of a Passat and have it actually suitible for production.

If the platform is used elsewhere, I don't see why Camaro couldn't be at least slightly profitable. If the Mustang is profitable because it shares parts with the LS and S-type, can't the Camaro be profitable if it shares it's naughty bits with the admitedly more bread and butter <than the LS/S-type> Impala, G8, and Invicta?

I fight for that also and get shouted down for it. "Cadillac buyers would never buy a small Cadillac!!!" they say.... uh.... the idea is to try and offer something to non-Cadillac buyers anyway.....

The last gen 3-series had a lower base price. 60k CTSes v. 80k 3-series sedans is a LOT closer than 105k of all 3-series. Lutz has already stated that the next CTS will be available as a coupe.... If the CTS gets the interiors we've seen from 60-Minutes and pricing remains similar... the CTS really WILL be a 5-series at a 3-series price.

Or not...

The Renaissance is Cadillac's move back to mainstream desireability. Sure there are people out there that still have the "Edgar and Mabel Bluehair" image of Cadillac, but that image is fading. In 2001 were there any Cadillac that could be put in a compairson test with any AMG or M-series cars? Today Cadillac has cars that run with the best of Europe. They win some and they lose some, but the fact that they're even invited now is a huge start.