Drew Dowdell

3rd gen E-body <preferably late in the model run> Toronado with the diesel

How can you call yourself "Carguy" and ask a question like this?

Then I'm an odd 27 year old because I've considered the newest DTS as a CTS replacement <STS is too close to the CTS to matter to me> because the roads here in Western PA are so bad driving the CTS, or any harder riding car, gets tiring. The previous DTS, while I liked it from the exterior, I did not like the interior. The new one has grown on me in higher levels of trim.

The DTS face lift *had* to cost less then an entirely redesigned platform. GM just didn't have the money to do an entirely new car yet. While 1/3rd of DTSes are sold to fleets, what about the other 2/3rds of the sales. Isn't the DTS one of the best selling <even after accounting for fleet sales> full sized luxury cars out there? While fleets aren't as profitable as retail sales, they do contribute to the economies of scale of a model line. BMW and Benz fleet their cars too, they just don't do it in the U.S. In france I saw a number of Benz C-classes and 3-series diesels as taxi cabs.

oh yeah, forgot one Escape Hybrid E85.... is coming.

E85 Impala 3.5? E85 Taurus Chrysler Sebring 2.7 DCX mini-vans MB C240/C320

I've refused to buy Exxon or Mobile gasoline for years.

It needs to be harsh. Bold, in your face, agressive, assertive is what Buick should have. Names like: Wildcat Centurion Invicta "unconquerable" Roadmaster Wouldn't that be a great lineup of sedans starting with a Sigma based Wildcat and Centurion at the bottom, and Zeta based Invicta and Roadmaster at the top. "Suddenly it's 1957!" with Buick having 4 cars based on two platforms. Use the Super name for the higher trim on a specific model but use it in front of the model name "I just bought an Invicta.", "Oh yeah? I just bought a Super Invicta" Of course, the Electra trim name for all hybrid models

Hey, at least it's getting a real name and not "B8"

I agree.... but Cadillac doesn't have an S-Class/7-series/A8 fighter ready to go anytime soon. Should Cadillac just give up those not insignificant sales of the DTS? Sure it's a Lucerne De Lux.... but they still do get to charge the premium for it.

I'm going to guess that an LS6 is substantially less complex than an HF3.6 VVT.

That was a 747 that flew over your head....

uh.... Lincoln LS?

12 is always something to brag about. 8 is usually something to brag about. Who ever brags about a 6 or a 4? :AH-HA_wink:

I did... and I can't get the price that high even with the engine block heater checked. The only way I could get that number was to go with the 18" wheel option package.

The same person that would rice out a Hoover.

Uh... 1996 Olds LSS 1996 Pontiac Gran Prix 1996 Buick Regal GS were all within 10HP of that. The HP increase may level off, but I don't think we'll see another decline in HP like we did in the late 70's early 80's.

Tantastic is a chain here in Pittsburgh

I think you're correct, but that doesn't mean I like it. The down side is even a 300hp V6 doesn't have the low down torque a 300hp V8 has.

Perhaps GM is a fault for having coolant with a longer service interval than their gaskets.

Since when is a bad gasket the problem of Dex-Cool?

I'm waiting for the Uplander SS man!

You're thinking about it from the wrong angle. Think about trying to package an I-6 transversly. The I6 is, mathmatically, the most harmonicly balanced engine setup <for automobiles>. This is where BMW gets their reputation for "turbine like" smoothness. VW is attempting to have the same smoothness in a smaller package. By using a 15 degree angle, they get very very very close to the harmonic balance of an I6 while getting the packaging closer to an I4. Plus, they only use two camshafts on their V6.

Because BMW Trend tells people to buy BMWs and the 3-series is at the price point a lot of people can afford. The CTS drives and handles so close to the 3-series that the difference can be made up in driver skill yet the CTS is the size of a 5er.

Then I guess the 5er is crap because it takes over 1/2 a meter more to make a turn.