Drew Dowdell

"Sorry, I like cars with class" "Sorry, I don't like Kool-aide" "Sorry, I'm not a sheep"

Only because the Auto mags are stupid. This is a competitor to the TSX, Zephyr, ES, 9-3 and X-type. Not *everything* has to be compaired to the 3-series ya know.

Mary was not sinless. She was a daughter of Adam and thus had inherited sin. The Catholic church in the 8th century *decided* that Mary must have been a virgin during the Niecian <sp> council. Jesus did not commit sin, but as a son of Adam had inherited sin. Thus the need for him to die to pay for the sins of the world.

Face it 68, you're stuck in 1969. Cadillac has mostly moved away from names. All future Cadillacs will be a letter combination. EXT is a trim level of the escalade because it's never listed at EXT by itself. Welcome to 2003.

Neither CD nor I are suggesting that homosexuals *can't* be pedophiles, but we are suggesting that pedophiles that molest boys are not always homosexual. Many pedophiles identify themselves as straight otherwise. Read the studies about it. If we seem defensive about it, it is because pedophiles are so often wrongly associated with homosexuality and used as a reason to limit the rights of homosexuals.

"I'm not fat, I'm pleasantly plump."

The light is from me beating my head on the brick. :fcvxplode: :fcvxplode:

ARG!@@#$@#( At least I know you're joking.

Do some research on the matter and you will find that you are wrong. Pedophilia is not about sexuality, it is about power and gratification. It's a long term mental and physical rape of a person who doesn't know enough to tell someone about it or feels they will be punished for telling.

Oh... you're going to hear about this one for a while. homosexuals are not automatically pedophiles. Pedophelia is akin to a fetish like sado-masocism. The priests that commited these sins commited them against boys because that is who they had access to. I still think that if Pope would allow Cathloic priests to marry, they wouldn't have the problems with pedophilia they currently do. You don't see these situations occuring in a widespread manor in other denominations, and nearly all the other denomonations allow marriage by priests.

How about... "Mitsubishi... it's the new Oldsmobile" v. v. v.

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Nuh uh!!! Doesn't work that way. If you're compairing performance cars, you have to compair important things like the quality of the plastic and legroom. I "lost" an argument in another thread where I was trying to compair the CTS-v to the M5 and how the current CTS-v compaired favorably on the track to the old M5. I hypothisized that the NG CTS-v with 500HP would compair favorably to the M5. The responses I got? The BMW is a better performer because of the dash plastic and front passenger legroom while ignoring the $25k price premium.

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It looks nothing like a Cavalier. Not even close. If you said it looked like a previous generation Grand Prix, I'd give ya that. But that said... remember when the boxy cars with big bold grills were so uncool? and small grill, aero were in? Now, the boxy \, big grill cars are in..... and small grill, aero cars are out.

Edit: Never mind... you just removed the link from the top of the page....

Seeing as I actually own a CTS and I've rented a 300c. I can say that the touch on the Chryslers compaired to the Cadillac is fairly similar with a slight edge to the Cadillac. As far as the "cheap seats"... what you can't really see in the pic is the suead insert. The regular seats in my CTS are extremely comfortable and fit me like a glove while still being firm. The comfort of the seat feel and seating position was a *major* selling point for me. I can make 7 hour trips without stopping and not be uncomfortable.

well, the 4 speed will probably be there...

Uh, isn't Harley's newest engine the pinicle of design and co-developed with Porche?

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Um... because they are already redesigning the interior. If the NG CTS is an '08 we have about an 18 month wait till we see it. If it's anything like the renderings I've seen, every wish you have about the CTS's interior has been granted. The Catera was a decent car. I liked it especially after it's facelift. Cadillac needs a 3-series fighter. The BLS <should be BTS>, would be a good start assuming they can put an AWD system in it. Audi fights BMW just fine without rear wheel drive. The 9-3 is an econobox?

The type it attracts? Like the type of people that bought an X-type, TSX, last gen IS, C-class coupe or G20? You'll come back at me and say "Well none of them except the TSX sold very well". True, but they were poorly executed cars. <again, exept the TSX>. The BLS could sell ok if it was executed right. It's just what the expectations are set at. If they forcast for and built 30,000 of them they'd probably sell each and every one. 15,000 in the states, 10,000 in China, and 5,000 in Europe. Besides, they've obviously already bought the tooling for them. What's the problem with sticking them on a boat and seeing if you can move a few over here.

Except that the 9-3 and the BLS share a price point... so it's not that the BLS is based on a cheaper car. Your analagy would have been closer if you said the Cobalt is related to the G5 in the same way the 9-3 is related to the Cadillac.

Put an awsome AWD system in there and we'd overlook it I'm sure.