Drew Dowdell

He likes the Eos?

just to be clear $6000 off the *last* Escalades.

ass

I've mentioned it before right around the time gas was $3.00 a gallon. Where are our premium 4-cylinder cars from GM? Right now our choice is the 9-3.

Fixed.

Ah, Bucks County then....

The Commodore is already Americanized. It's gas tank is in the right place and the LHD models are already developed. They are using engines that are already certified for the U.S. the only thing it needs is an "American" skin. That part, I'm sure, was thought about long ago.... otherwise, what was the point of "Americanizing" the rest of the car?

Vermont?

anyone want to meet up at hershey?

Gah! that's a heavier than a Lucerne V6 and has about the same amount of power.

floaty ride today = Euro tuned sport suspension 20 years ago

Whew, my user name is Xxxxxxxx, disaster averted.

the Corsa would/should kick the Yaris into the weeds. Fit and Versa would still be formitable foes. Aveo <in current form> would be rendered irrelevent.

What makes you think GM only started thinking about this 2 months ago?

You don't want the RX-7 BV, trust us on that one at least. Rotory engines are neat and fun to drive, but the older RX-7s had oil seal issues and you had to *constantly* keep up on the oil level. If you forgot you probably cost yourself an engine. I'd never buy the Eos without and extended and extensive warrenty. I've see the thing in motion at the Detroit Autoshow. As for the powertrain in the Eos: 200 HP + ~3810lbs. = not very exciting. 250hp + ~3910lbs = Chrysler 300 Touring + four 50lb. bags of sand. As for the interior design in the Eos: Did they steal the center pod out of a Lucerne or what?

I plan to be at Hershey on Saturday

In 1979 (and earlier) there were many incredibly dull and mediocre (awful in numerous instances) FWD cars.... from japan and elsewhere abroad. All foreign imports:audi fox audi 4000 audi 5000 datsun F10 datsun 310 fiat strada honda civic honda accord honda prelude mitsubishi (Dodge/Plymouth) Omni 024/Horizon TC3 mitsubishi (Dodge/Plymouth) Colt/Champ renault 5 renault lecar saab 99 saab 900 subaru DL/GF/FE volkswagon rabbit volkswagon scirocco There were other, less mainstream foreign FWD models imported. This same year the only domestic FWD cars were the Eldorado/ Riviera/ Toronado, all on the E-Body platform and the Dodge Omni/Plymouth Horizon on the same ChryCo platform. All the rest of ChryCo's offerings (aside from the mitsu imports) were RWD, all of Ford's '79 offerings --with the exception of the German-built Fiesta-- were RWD, all the rest of GM's product were RWD. In 1980, GM introduced the X-Body 4-some and the Seville in FWD, ChryCo & FoMoCo were in holding patterns. To say GM 'made FWD popular' is to ignore the reality of the market prior to 1981. 200239[/snapback] Which, if any, of those listed sold in the numbers comparible to the J-Bodies or X-bodies?

Apparently the GXP handles the torque better than the SS. Not sure why.... maybe it's the odd tires.

a dropped and riced Scion TC with Lexus badging.

and even the J-bodies, while we laugh at them today, weren't as terrible back then as we make them out to be. I see more '80 Cavaliers on the road today than '80 Civics.

Greatest builders of FWD, General Motors. Who else can get 300hp to the front wheels reasonably well?

no more boobies

I'm thinking you don't get it.

Three points. 1. The Americans, GM in particular, were leaders in FWD. 2. FWD isn't bad, it serves it's purpose for those that buy it. 3. You shouldn't have a Rear Wheel Drive mafia sig with a Fusion in it.

all this bitching about something that wasn't on the original concept, I can't wait to hear the bitching about things that actually were on the concept but were removed.