Drew Dowdell

I added all the brands I can think of guys.... have at it! :-D

*I* say that you're dealer has been drinking too much E85...

because I have plenty of penis already thanks....

for very low values of "superb" and "design"

fixed I'll be there on the 30th

I don't think the main Wikipedia would appreciated 400 pictures of RWD, V8, Hardtop coupes like we might....

Well... it's up and running.... don't just see it... contribute to it.

I'm starting a new website. It will is not going to compete with C&G but rather compliment it. AutoWikipedia I hope that one day, the autowikipedia will be an authorative database on automotive history so that we here at C&G and at forums all over can reference it. There won't be forums like what we have here on C&G, just a large database of our combined knowlage...and as the site grows, hopefully knowlage from users outside of C&G as well. This will be a huge undertaking and I'm hoping I can get a number of you to pitch in on writing articles. In addition, I'll need a few "moderators" to watch out for, and edit, the edit wars that can errupt on Wikis. As it stands now, the site is empty, I'll be working on it more over the weekend. Hopefully some of you will contribute. Thanks for listening. Drew

We at C&G should make one. I own autowikipedia.com but haven't done anything with it. Would some of you be game to building a wiki?

September 27th - October 1st Cars at Carlisle Who's going?

the Pacifica

Ergo a 1997 Pontiac Grand Prix v. a 1997 Buick Regal

so... then why is Cadillac going "ouch" again?

One word: Acela

depends on how flexible I need to be. under 800 miles, I prefer the train. over 800 miles I fly. I'll only drive if I need flexibility at my destination or flexibility in my return trip.... and even then only under 800 miles. I'm one of the few Americans not afraid of public transportation.

I have a feeling this will be more for Caddies, Buicks, and maybe the Vette.

$39k and you still get: And the base TL gets 20/29 compaired to the CTS's 18/27..... I'm willing to bet that the TL-S drops to about the same as the CTS. But still, that doesn't address the most glaring thing.... this is Acura's performance model and your compairing it to a mid-level engine CTS. This is Acura's answer to the CTS-V.... And no giving Acura a pass because it costs $10k less than the V. No one gives the $49k CTS-V a pass when it comes in 1/10th a second slower than the $80k M5, so Acura doesn't get one either.

High performance milk-toast.

Even though Saab is GM, and I'm a GM man, this really just proves how off base the Lienerts are.

It's about damn time they put a Hi-Po engine in the Legacy GT

Maybe they're using the LS460 engine... could be.

and that explains the pit marks and dusty/smudged bits... how?

far too many..... in fact, I see lots of green Civic EX mommy sedans "modded" out

I agree 100% <though some of that is my assumptions that you know more about Ford's internal workings than I>. I do doubt that Ford will completely fold, but I don't doubt that bankruptcy is in the cards. My concern is how many people he'll cut and the possibility of cutting the good along with the bad. If Ford only has months left, then I have a feeling they're already done. Very few companies of that size can react that fast.

Bring back the Iacocca ads, that'll sell cars...