Drew Dowdell

Still a no. Only available in the Fusion, Milan, MK/Zephyr, MKX, and Edge as of now.

Not yet apparently.

You're right about the mustang, but have any of us actually Driven a Duratec 35 to be able to comment on it?

They should really just call it the "9-best" list since the VQ is on there ever year.

Chas <not a car guy> recoiled when he saw the face of a white new MDX while we were out shopping on Black Friday. edit: and while he likes the looks and loves the interior of the Enclave, he's not a fan of the look of either the Outlook or Acadia. He'd never drive any of them because they're too big for him.

I think they would have done better had they changed their name to Eagle back in 1980. Investing a bit in FWD <it was the all the craze at the time 68> and staying away from the French could have helped too. A small, FWD, non-Renault car to go up against the J-body and K-car would have probably kept them afloat long enough till the SUV kicked in. Then the Concord and it's derivatives could have been an American Subaru and Jeep would have kept going with it's existing lineup. Definately would have kept the Commanche and Grand Wagoneer.

it looks like the front of one of MDM's drawings....

I would have been funnier if they had rode to the event on a GM Hybrid bus and didn't even realize it.

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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but something I recall was that the deal for Chrysler was much more attractive because AMC already had a substantial amount of work done on the design of the LH car, but not so much that they couldn't be altered into Chrysler's lineup. So if the deal hadn't gone through, the LH cars would have been AMCs and not Chryslers.

I forget which car you have link

Oh nooooz! Toyota gets the Duramax!

I want to see them put that power to the ground..... something only BMW has been able to do with total success.

1984 Honda Fit

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is that what your wife said?

300 for it's interior, weird ergonomics. It ends up winning because it looks aggressive and can come with a hemi. The Lucerne has a better interior, it's base V6, ancient as it is, is still better than the base V6 in the 300, and it has the Northstar V8 option. The 500/Montego has more efficient packaging than the 300, better V6, and a slightly better interior. The Avalon, better interior, powerful V6, Import <not that it matters to me, but it definitely matters to them>. the Fit is an old car in Japan that was just imported for the US market with a so/so interior. The Aveo has a better interior and about equal in powertrain, while the Versa has a better interior and a better powertrain.

I think all of them except the Fit and 300c are withing the range of being best. I'm sure we'd all have minor quibbles about the rest of them, but simple fact is, they're all so close that it ends up coming down to personal preferences. Fit and 300 don't really deserve to be there though.

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My version of a GM response: That is the unfortunate nature of being the worlds largest automobile manufacturer. We sell more full size trucks than anyone else because we make them better than anyone else. Additionally, our truck lines are each at or near the top of their class in fuel efficiency. Many of our V6 sedans get mileage ratings similar to our competitors' with 4 cylinder engines. We've become a leader in hybrid technology by offering not one but two types of hybrid engine configuration. In the next 18 months we'll be offering more hybrid models than any other manufacturer. While our competitors have succeeded in make a 35mpg car into a 45mpg car, we've concentrated on areas that make more of an enviromental impact. One of our hybrid buses reduces pollution equivalent to the reduction offered by 100 Toyota Priuses. We followed that up with hybrid trucks and SUVs. A 25% increase in fuel efficiancy of t 35 mpg car saves about 6 gallons of fuel over 1000 miles. A 25% increase in fuel efficiency of a 17mpg SUV saves about 12 gallons of fuel over 1000 miles. By focusing out hybrid efforts on the vehicles that need the help the most, we feel our efforts have a greater impact on fuel savings and green house gas emissions.

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no, never even seen the movie I like the earlier idea of taking the oath on the Constitution. I think that will be my choice when I run for office.

I'm gay... duh!

This line made me LOL

Think of it this way. The old truck was better than the competition in terms of powertrain and durability. Now they've taken that and put a top notch interior into it. I thought crew cab seats were always flat up against the back of the cab.