Drew Dowdell

GMAC, along with the rest of the mortgage industry, is going to be in deep $h! later this year. Since December 06, 27 mortgage companies have gone bust. GMAC won't be the goose that lays the golden eggs for much longer.

we should e-mail bomb him with the domestic cars that can get over 20mpg

I understand that... but the characteristics are so similar as to say "why bother"

My therapist gets $15 bucks a week for it.

This vehicle has been sold.

Why would you want a Unibody Pathfinder when you have the Murano in the same lot?

It's gotta look something like this:

Free Kool-Aid for EVERYONE!

The only way I'd buy a 35k Hyundai is if they built the Pheaton <as is> and sold it with a 100k mile warranty.

completely disagree.... seeing as I owned some '85s. My 85 Toronado had a leather steering wheel with brushed stainless steel spokes. And *real* stainless trim throughout the car. Sure there was plood, but it was at least attractive looking plood. A sleek gloss black panel crossed the dash and lined up with the intrument pod. It was a bitch for fingerprints, but looked great when polished up. A stitched leather like material covered the dash and it was soft and padded. I had 8 way power adjustable seats. The leather of the seats was soft and supple. Ergonomics weren't great, but that didn't come about till the early 90s anyway. My 85 Continental had some of the sportiest seats to ever grace a Lincoln. Real wood everywhere. Soft padded dash. Great trip computer and climate control. surprisingly good ergonomics. Clean, attractive design with a nice European flair. As for some more recent examples. Aurora, Intrigue, Alero, GTO.

Hello 1979.....

The best way to tell the quality of a concept is if you can tell which brand designed it without looking at the badges. Take the badges off the SIXTEEN and you can still tell it's a Cadillac Take the badges off the G8 and you can still tell it's a Pontiac Take the badges off the Charger and you can still tell it's a Dodge Take the badges off the LaCrosse <concept> and you can still tell it's a Buick Take the badges off this..... and what is it? It's a G.A.S.

So... a profitable.... but not as profitable as we had hoped GM is still a downer. What'd they lose two years ago... 10 billion?

"We are moving to Uni-body full size SUVs while the domestics remain behind in technology using BOF trucks and SUVs" </nissan press release>

anybody notice that Volvo is now using 4 catalitic converters and 2 O2 sensors on the new models in an effort to keep emissions down?

That carbon was removed from the atmosphere by the plants that were using in biodiesel production. Hence, it's not "new carbon" Carbon released by petrol diesel is "new carbon" because it was sucked up from the earth. From www.E85Fuel.com B100 Biodiesel is even better because it uses no petroleum.

Around 5% of Jettas are diesel..... yet there are waiting lists for them.

Thank you. That is good for getting to sleep I'm sure. I've got prescription drugs for that. It's the stuff in my mind all dday that I'm trying to get rid of. It's the stuff that keeps spinning in my head while I try to do anything and everything.

A properly done, RWD or AWD Astra type vehicle with the appropriate appointments would make a good A-class for Caddy.

that's why I said new carbon

I'd love to know. I know you've been through a lot recently yourself and tips from you could be quite useful.

not an option in this case..... if you've been following some of my other threads.

It was my impression from Lutz's email that the additional cost was in making the engine emissions compliant. Otherwise, it'd be fine for sale in the states.

already on it

Let me put it this way.... I've been to a clothing optional gay resort and I was still unable to "let go" mentally for 4 days.