Drew Dowdell

Mom went from a 94 Bonneville to a 2001 Aurora... the best impression I can give you is the Bonneville will feel gutsier and faster, however, the Aurora in reality is the faster one. The Bonneville has the low end grunt of the 3800 where as the Aurora has the smoothness of DOHC. Think of your expectations if you were comparing the Bonneville to say a Lincoln LS V6. Even though it was "only" an Oldsmobile, the Aurora really was more in the Lincoln's class than the Bonneville's. edit: Fuel economy seems to be slightly lower than her Bonneville. She complains about getting 27mpg on the highway because she was spoiled by the 30mpg from the Bonneville.

loaded Escalade EXT hybrid.

My mother has the same car with 85,xxx plus miles. Only problem she's had is a leaky power stearing pump hose and the headliner is falling because she left the sunroof open in a rainstorm.

Some of these seem to be Pittsburgh specific as I don't generally encounter this is my travels: Driving 5 under the limit...consistently. Driving on the expressway in bad weather <heavy rain, snow> at the speed limit, then when driving through a tunnel, slowing down when there's been no change in the limit! setting the cruise control for .0001mph faster than the car in front of them, then getting in the left hand lane. I think the feet on the dashboard thing is especially unclassy.

Every fall I take a trip through the mountains of Western PA. Every other year we take my friend's 94 Roadmaster. Even in the hilly terrain we see 25mpg

I think I'd call that a Jetback Sedan, but that's just me.

I'm sure 68 will love the overhang on this one.... Overall, I like the car... but that overhang is definitely a bit much... and I'm not usually fussy about those things...

Borrow your mom's Dodge.

That'll help catch Osama fur sure!

till the cam shafts explode over 6,500 rpm... :AH-HA_wink: j/k

there is a Joe Phillips picture of this scene that I've been trying to find all day....

the silver one almost looks previous Gen E-Class from the front.

I wouldn't expect that either, but there is much more difference between a 330i and an M3 or a CTS and a CTS-V than there is between an IS350 and the IS-F

There are already multiple lawsuits pending regarding this.

but that's the thing... it doesn't *look* overtly sporty. If this hadn't been labeled as the IS-F, I would have though this was just pics from a Lexus engine mods club.

just make sure it's long enough

CTS-V please.... even the current gen is more attractive and assertive on the outside than this.

Second runner up: The Lexus RX. Oddly, Howard Hanna, a major real estate firm here in Pittsburgh, purchase a fleet of dark green Rainiers for their agents. The green just happens to match the green on their logo.

Oh... and the dealer is a moron..... if anything running E-85 cleans your injectors. The whole reason some cars are e85 compatible and some aren't is because of rubberized fuel lines. E85 vehicles have stainless steel lines because the fuel will break down rubber ones.

it's not that the process is cheaper, it's that the amount of E85 you get from sugar is higher than the amount you get from corn. Corn is one of the least productive ways to get E85 in terms of volume of output per volume of input.

In the end it costs about the same to run your vehicle, but you're reducing dependence on foreign oil.

Great pics Fly. Just more proof that GM photography really sucks.... as I didn't much care for the look as shown by them.... but these are pretty nice. The new grill makes the old one look tacked on.

yes

Even in this, you have to admit that there is more differentiation between the Cutlass and GP than there is between the G and M front clips

My old Cutlass supreme doesn't even have a grill where as the GP does..... they use the same headlights... that's it.