Drew Dowdell

so position it as a sports car.... what's the problem here?

Could be. I had Yokohama Avid Touring or Dunlop WinterSports on it. I didn't mind the 16s on my car because it was black. I don't think I could have gotten away with it in any other color.

No, I didn't have that package. I had 16s on mine. Cheaper for switching back and forth between snow tires/summer tires twice a year.... and I'm not a wheel size queen. I had craptastic Goodyears

perhaps you ran over a honda?

I wouldn't consider OE tires wearing out at 28k to be a problem. I got 10k out of the original tires on my CTS. OE tires are notorious for short treadlife so that isn't something I would put much weight on. If your only other problem was the sunroof, then it sounds like you had a pretty good run with the vehicle. GM's CPO program is pretty decent. I would be confident in such a purchase.

heh... I was wondering if that would get mixed up. Dominic isn't my BF. Dominic is my BFF. No, Dominic is staying here. Albert, my BF, might move to Germany 3-4 months after I go over.

1985, I'm not in it for the money. 1985 E-bodies + Seville, 1985 Continental, very slightly used 1983 b-body coupes, best year of the GM 350 diesel.

so that's where GM $h! comes from.....

see if she can get a multi-pack of transmissions though....

+1 on Alero or Saab

fixed. Yes.

so you admit they are just excuses and not actual valid reasons?

Huh? The panthers are ancient and were about the same age as the B-bodies at the time. The Fleetwood was easily better than the Town Car..... and as far as longevity... not much beats a b-body.

so we're not going to cheer when GM cans the DTS and produces a 7-series competitor?

Truth. especially with that Turbo-4 BAS-II waiting in the wings. More torque at 1,000 rpm than the 3.6vvt and much better highway gas mileage and engine shut off at stop.... what's not to love?

Still, what about the 278 in the Lambdas?

I"m actually surprised there is no cheering of GM/Lutz for dropping the pushrod V6 option. Seriously guys... for people who harp on pushrods as much as you do... this slipped by you?

They must have tuned the DI for efficiency rather than performance. 260hp is only 5 more than the non-DI 3.6 in the CTS. Yes the f-bodies were more stylish and performed much better than their Ford counterparts.... but the same could be said of the B-Bodies too and look where they ended up.

additionally.... want more power = add more boost muuuuch easier to do with a turbo.

OMG.... you all need to stop.... think.... then post. All of you clutching your pearls need to remember this graph. I think the Camaro will do just fine with the Turbo-4..... I would even go so far as to day GM should ditch the 3.6 and put the Turbo-4 BAS-II system in there. ...and that's coming from a 3.6 lover.

Mom won't buy anything but FWD or AWD.... and she lived in South Florida. For me? One of each please.

dead is a perfectly acceptable alternative.

If GM had listened to blogs... it would be a very different GM right now.

yes.

hmm... ls1... and a frankenwagon.... you thinkin what I'm thinkin?