Drew Dowdell

How can I miss you if you won't go away?

I can't put my finger on it... but why does this look a bit more upscale than the regular Cobalt. Body shape hasn't changed... but something is different.

didn't the new saab 9-4x concept have a 300hp Ecotech?

I'll play. RWD, AWD Optional. No b-pillar Sedan, Coupe, Hardtop, wagon, truck configurations available 4cylinder, 4 cylinder turbo, 24 valve V6 <12 are operated by OHC, 12 are operated by pushrod>, 32 valve V8 <same deal>, hybrid powertrains your choice of 5-speed auto, 10-speed DSG, or 6 speed manual A BMW badge that morfs into a Toyota badge when under a shop light. Optional SatNav with bluetooth adjustable pedals Engineered by BMW, built by Toyota in a GM plant in Michigan using parts stamped "Made in Japan unless you're a domestic fan.. then they're made in Ohio" 24.1 surround sound and 32 way adjustable power seats <don't press the button in the middle unless you're a member of the 25% on this board>.... gotta keep SMK happy. Quint-Fuel - Gasoline, Ethanol, Diesel, Hydrogen, Baby smiles

Well... are you sure? Camry/ES v. Malibu, Impala, Aura, Lacross, G6, GrandPrix

NO B-PILLAR@!!@#$!@!@ ELEVIBINTY!!!!!!

Was PCS working for BMW then?

Did you click the links? I posted the times. As far as the Lucerne looking better... I think the sales numbers back me up on that one. Boring or appliance means that the item in question has no personality, there is nothing remarkable about it, and if you scraped the badges off, non-enthusiasts wouldn't be able to identify the brand. The Lucerne, while conservative, does invoke the looks of a Buick.

You are sooooo getting one of these decals for the ST. Even if I have to sneak into the barn at night to do it.

It's not... however life will be considerably more exciting with the extra $3,000 in my pocket that I don't spend on the Toyota.

or small ones.... it all depends on your point of view...

but is the dashboard soft enough to wipe my ass with like in a Passat.

Look up some of my posts then.... I harp on VW/Audi all the time due to prior experiences with them. My complaints about BMW's actual cars are minimal, I just find them to be stylistically unremarkable. The only BMW that catches my fancy is the 7-series. My real beef with BMW is that the badges are worth more than the cars themselves. Jeremy Clarkson has a really good quote in the segment where he compares the Vauxhaul VXR8 and the 5-er. He points to the BMW badge on the hood and says "This right here is worth 30,000£"... because he finds the Vauxhaul and the 5-er to be sooo close in everything else. If GM threw a BMW badge on a CTS they'd be able to sell for 25% more. After the 300c, Chrysler really took some big steps backwards in design.

just sayin....

So what? You're in So.Cal.... even the bums there drive rusted out BMWs. I see A-body Cierras and Centurys all the time. It seems most of the Celebrities and 6000s have gone to the great junkyard in the sky. I'd say it's a 30/70 garaged/ghetto ratio on the A-bodies I see. The nice ones are very very nice. The ghetto ones range from "well used" to "rolling environmental hazard". Cierras seem to have a better survival rate and are usually puttering along at 10 mph under the speed limit with Edgar or Mable Bluehair behind the wheel. Camries and Cressidas pre '92 are basically non-existent. So much so that Dominic and I found it remarkable to see a Cressida on the road last week and even admired the good condition it was in. The older Toyotas simply could not survive the winters in Pittsburgh. The 1992 and above body style seems to be their turning point. The A-bodies, many being ghetto, are still... unfortunately... on the road.

Because that would have been so different than all the other ads with cars driving around mountain roads or down long stretches of empty road......

define "real"

It's just old. It needs an MCE.

Toronado FTW

Sometimes I think people post ads like this simply to get more attention.... and hey look... it worked!

This is a feature GM needs to consider adding to more cars. It is unique in the market... I think. No other car has it right?

My beef with Toyota mostly involves them not being as great as their reputation makes them out to be. How many Toyota Cressidas do you still see milling around? How many Cutlass Cierras... or Buick Centurys of the same vintage do you see? I bet the number of of ~1985 vintage Cressidas + Camrys still running is less than the number of Cutlass Cierras alone.... much less the entire A-body lineup.

Happy Birthday Bu Baby

with the fed dropping interest rates like it has been, 0% financing may be back

LOL! A-body a "newer platform" ? A-bodies: Chevy Celebrity Pontiac 6000 Olds Cutlass Cierra Buick Century You could get the 3800 in certain Cutlass Cierra and Buick Century coupes. They are sleepers.... they go like snot.