Drew Dowdell

GM could produce a fully working model of Christ himself and people would still complain that the water to wine function only dispenses merlot.

Would you explain it away like this if the vehicle in question were say.... the Cadillac BRX? I'm guessing no. Then of course, if it were a Cadillac, we'd have SMK in here ranting about how it should be a diesel electric hybrid fueled by baby smiles, have a 37 speed transmission, weigh less than 2,500lbs, and be priced like the CRV because Cadillac isn't A-tier. I'm just hatin the fact that you guys are giving the "Fuel Efficiency Leader" a pass on this...... and this thread will arise from the dead if I start seeing rants about BRX fuel economy.

I'm not sure the Queen would use such language.

What is "fraud like" with the idea that you have to pay to pollute?

two words; Bush Administration . two more words; Exxon Mobil

front engine/front drive.

No new pics tonight. The power antenna is installed. We found out that most of the horns don't work... we have one in and will be ripping the rest out of the parts car later. The horns are easy to get to, so as long as it passes inspection for now, I'm happy. Right front fender is now fully installed and bolted down. It lines up decently though the panel gap between the door and the fender is a bit wide. Tomorrow, discovering the splicing needed to wire the headlights. Sedan and wagon have slightly different headlight cluster layouts. maybe banging out the slightly bent core support and getting the left fender in.

Mini-Cooper.

Since I can't draw it, I'll steal it. Take that cylinder head all the way to the right and lop off two cylinders.... notice how much shorter it gets compared to the inline 4? Now it will have the same displacement as the inline 4 but fit in a smaller package..... or Increase the displacement of each cylinder, make the block as long as the other 4 cylinder, but with much more displacement while still maintaining relatively narrow characteristics of an inline.

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uh... how? I'm not trying to say that the Roadmaster is better than any of these Hondas. I'm saying that the Honda mileage from a 4 cylinder is pathetic.

there are more examples out there than just stuff from Honda and Driver......I think there were 3 different rear ends for the B-bodies... it matters.

all that is missing is the extra emissions equipment that BMW is putting on their engines. Lutz said in a personal email exchange between he and I that GM could bring it 50 state compliant, it just costs money for the extra hardware.

there have never been unethical scientists?

having a different opinion about a theory is one thing if they have honest and irrefutable evidence to support their argument. Disagreeing with a theory in the face of supporting evidence and without evidence to back up your argument = nutjob. Also, if you believe that Exxon hasn't hired "Scientists" to go out and "disprove" global warming, I have some beach front property here in Pittsburgh to sell you.

uh... no. The north west passage opened up this summer for the first time in recorded history. Yes, the Antarctic ice sheet is growing in height in the central region, but making just that one point is very misleading and quite dishonest.

Yes there is some overlap, but we're not talking A-body rebadging here.... The epsilons are actually a good example. The Malibu is the everyman car... your basic Camry LE. The G6 is the sportier model... a Camry SE. The Aura is the more upscale but not yet luxury model....Passat. The <next> Lacross is the luxury model... like an ES. The 9-3 is the "Euro-Flavor" model... like a Volvo or Audi. Now you can harp all day long on the deficiencies of these individual cars, however, each car has it's place. Simply slapping a different grill on and adding some ground effects the way Toyota does with the Camry isn't sufficient. I'm sure the SE model of the Camry would sell much better if it had a differently sculpted body and a more differentiated powertrain. Additionally, look at how each new Epsilon has been better than the previous. GM is clearly learning along the way. With how good the Malibu has turned out, I expect the LaCross to be a stunner. I think the Aura is next up for redesign after the Buick.

In fact it does have Arnold Palmer plates. He owns a dealer here.

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what cylinder bank angle were you thinking? I was thinking more along the lines of VW's VR4.... which I can't draw in ascii.

The 1992 Roadmaster didn't have the LT-1. The 1993 - 1996 Roadmaster wagon however did. Under 2008 EPA guidelines the Roadmaster gets 1mpg less combined than the RDX... however I know from personal experience, over multiple B-bodies, that 25-26mpg highway is normal with these cars. I'm not the only one, these cars are somewhat famous for their mileage. I highly doubt the EPA went out and retested a 1993 Roadmaster, so the estimates they post are estimates of their original estimate. ANYWAY...... Nobody other than me sees the irony of arguing over 1mpg combined between a brand new Honda 4-cylinder and a 16 year old GM pushrod V8 that has more power, only a 4-speed, and has to haul around 600 lbs more? Prior to the RDX, would you have though you'd be having a sustained argument defending a Honda 4-cylinder/5speed against an old GM V8/4-speed on fuel economy grounds and the best you can come up with is 1mpg combined? P.S. LT1 Roadmasters run between 6.5 and 6.9 seconds to 60 on a 4-speed. So my '96 Grandma wagon is 1/2 a second slower than your new Acura.... way to go Honda.

who says it's just one engine? but why would GM need BMW's diesels when they already have some pretty good ones of their own?

For 95% of drivers.... they're appliances. I've never tasted BMWaid.... what's it like?

Three questions: 1. What cars aren't driver focused? 2. Does RWD give the Charger premium status? 3. Are overlapping RWD models ok?

No pics tonight. I took my stupid pills today and left my keys at work so I couldn't get out to the Roadmaster until my BF came home. Only did some wire harness splicing and drilled the hole for the antenna.