Drew Dowdell

Prices for August ended at 3.02 yesterday, down 10 cents.

I don't doubt that. A Delta Saab would fit more inline with a Volvo S40 in size or a Peugeot 407 or Alfa 159 in price.

What hassles going full Synth? There is no alternative to Mobil 1.

And at it's heart, it's still a Honda.

Benz has the A-class and BMW has the Mini.... I'd rather see GM fill this role with Saab than Cadillac.

most of that loss coming from the beaten-with-an-ugly-stick LaCrosse. The Enclave is far better than all three of the vehicles it replaced and it sells at a higher transaction price too.

I dunno... wouldn't a final year of the last generation cut through the air much better than this and be much lighter, while having a great engine with astounding aftermarket support? :duck:

still dropping. October futures just dropped below $3.00, now at $2.98

Work has been bad lately. We were bought out and we're in the process of merging the two networks. Strangely, even though this was a straight up purchase and advertised as such, it's really turning into a merger of equals. Most of my old company's stuff is being retained as it's more efficient and more advanced than the stuff our new mothership has. Most of the workforce is being retained as well. During all of this, I'm doing some fairly big renovations on one of my apartment buildings. Chest pains from stress are now a common occurrence. Yesterday, I was sent a link to failblog.com and I was laughing so hard for so long that my co-workers were getting worried. I felt completely loopy. anyway, I just surfed over to Ebay to see if any new Toronados or Eldorados have been listed....except I typed "www.ebody.com" I can't wait for vacation.....

Current RBOB daily futures for gasoline are now down to 3.1245. If that holds, that puts regular at about $3.60 a gallon at the pump. October futures are 3.0041 and Novembers are 3.0250 which means about $3.50 at the pump. Everything on the wholesale market so far today has been trending down between 6 and 7 cents a gallon. There will likely be rapid drops at the pumps in the coming weeks barring any additional hurricane activity.

You're right, I did forget America's hat.

It's not just the Canadian dollar, it's Euros and Yen as well. Since oil is priced in dollars when the dollar is weaker, the price for oil, in dollars, increases. If the dollar were wear it was 3 years ago, we'd be in the mid to high $90 range right now.

Dug the book out of my library for you. Some examples of the process it describes: Development of the plants/production lines Financial forming of the company Story's of the early promotional stunts. Many many advertisments. Maps of the Lansing Olds Motor Works Details of Old's war efforts Very detailed writeup of Kettering and the development of the Rocket Writeups of the non-autmotive related employees of Olds light writeup of the automatic transmission Detailed writeup of the development of the Toronado and FWD. Strangely detailed writeup of the air suspension in the 1958s. Writeup of the development of the Quad-4

Sadly. Oldsmobile never made a DOHC/5-speed/Convertible combination. The 5-speeds were Coupe and Sedan only.

Rented a 1998 in 1998. With 3,000 miles on the clock it stalled out in a Florida toll booth and wouldn't start again for a few minutes.

While not completely what you want, "Setting the Pace", the story behind Oldsmobile, talks about many of those individual parts of development, but spreads it over multiple vehicles.

Not knowing exactly what you're talking about.

It's not bad as a get around town car... but the 3.1 was a slug in the regular coupe, I can't imagine what'd it'd be like in the heavier convertible. The convertibles with the DOHC V6 would please all except the most diehard of RWD fans on this forum.

Choosing a Panther over a B-body because the age of the frame is like choosing Richard Simmons over Liberace because he's manlier.

Really? He seemed fairly impressed with that new fangled Stanley Steamer.

Obama's fly new ride.

Any hybrid vehicle "study" that frames ROI in terms of time rather than distance @ cost per gallon is bunk. The best comparison is cost per mile @ N price per gallon

I'm not sure whether to ban you for sheer cheesiness or not.....

ZOMG!!! NO complaints about not having 33.7 surround sound?! No complaints about how it won't out handle the M5 wagon? <because we both know that all wagon drivers commute on the Nurgbergring> Not a peep about the lack of 75 way power seats with power reach around?! As for the D-pillar, they really just took the C-pillar and shoved it back.

Perfect! If you hate it, then it will likely do well against the ES350... which is it's target market.