Drew Dowdell

This will have a much harder time standing up to the new CTS than the old one could to the old CTS. The new CTS has improved dramatically and has upped the style quotient. The TL "update" is the modern interpretation of this update of yore: 1954 1955

I have no idea what that was about... someone found a left over stamping from the 50s maybe? That was just like my first car. Only difference was I had the "classic" grill on the front and no sunroof. Mine had the same stainless steel "pin stripe" and the addition of a fake b-pillar <held on with a clip at the top and single screw at the bottom.

Just to be clear: Digital displays/heads up on a Honda or BMW = way cool Digital displays/heads up on a GM = lame. just because.

This is what I want right here.... color is right, options are right. Exactly perfect. 1985 Toronado Caliente

Thanks Balthy. My Buick 455 over Rocket 455 was a completely made up scenario just to give an example of the situation I was looking for.

Since the company I work for was bought out by a Canadian company, Tim Hortons is all we hear aboot now.

The badge does..... how else would Lexus sell?

good! let it go quick and profitably!

Targeting someone because they fall into a specific demographic is worse than just randomly beating up some bystander on the street. The former requires malice and forethought, the latter is just stupidity. If hate crimes aren't worse than regular crimes, why do we make such a big deal about Auschwitz? That was just a hate crime on an industrial scale.

Vehicles don't have to share body panels to look similar. Take the harping around here about the SRX looking like the VUE.

Target market!

What's under the hatch in the rear of the boot floor?

Another Cutlass Salon today!

Between Century and Regal, which name is tarnished and could likely never be used again? In a side profile, I often mistake a Maxima for an Altima and vice versa. Now the newest barf job Maxima that Nissan has yacked up onto the pavement will never be mixed up with the Altima. The roof lines aren't even different until you get to the back tire where it just looks like that backed the Altima into a wall a few times and called it a day.

That was my point. The failures of the previous generation on a nameplate do not predict the success of the subsequent generation. SMK was implying that because the current LaX is a dud, the next one will be also.

and engine differences, and option differences, and color differences Century was 3.1 or 3.4, Regal was 3800 or 3800s/c. Regal could be had with leather, Century couldn't. Regal was console shift, Century was column shift. The Maxima rides on the same, albeit stretched, platform as the Altima and just takes the top engine from the lower car, slap on minor front facia differences and a bigger sticker prices and voila! The transition to Maxima is complete. Same trick on the Avalon. Same trick on the LeSabre/Park Ave Same trick on the 88/98 Same trick on the Sable/Continental <Lincoln Mercury is one division I understand>

Kinda hard to accomplish anything with an anchor stamped "UAW" tied to your neck, Rodger Smith at the helm, and a bunch of accountants from General Mills running the engine room.

When you think of cars from the 80s and 90s in terms of design or style, what ones pop into your head? Rarely Asian junk. GM, Ford, and occasionally Chrysler produced cars both distinctive and unique visually even if they aren't your style. Cars like the 70-85 E-bodies The last Riviera and first Aurora The Mark VIIs and Mark VIIIs The Reatta and Allante The Cutlass Supreme Convertible The Regal/GN/GNX Corvette of any year The imposing B-bodies The Euros had a few high priced cars that command attention like the 8-series, 6 series, just about any SL..... In the 80s and 90s you had a hard time telling a 626 from an Accord from a Camry from a Maxima without looking at the badge. What did ANY of the Asian manufacturers build that could compete with the visual presence of a Riviera? <not the stubby ones> Even the "lowly" Bonneville was more interesting to look at than an equivalent year Asian mid-size. The only two asian cars I can think of that would have a chance are the later Supras and the Nissan Z-cars.

quote of the day!

You mean like the Altima/Maxima or do you mean like the Camry/Avalon.... cause those have about the same level of difference between them as Century/Regal.

I don't think anyone mistakes either generation of CTS for anything but a Cadillac. A vehicle can have a strong brand identity without looking basically the same as the previous generation.

Two things: 1. They know who killed him. 2. The school initially tried to blame the killing on the victim by saying "He provoked it by dressing 'gay'"

Well... yes, but what makes them different? Was Old's 307 a better runner than Chevy's?

Well, out of those, I'd kill the Buick and the 9-4x..... but I like the looks of the 9-4x and a Mini-Enclave would probably look sweet.... so I'm not against styling choice.

Oh I'm not saying the G8 shouldn't have one... I'm just saying that MPG can no longer be used as the justification for it.