Drew Dowdell

what the hell? They've got lots of the cast members in there

ZOMG! They're even offering an 8-speed when GM is still using 4-speeds !!!@!WELEVNETY!!!@@!! This will CRUSH Buick sales unless GM can come up with a 9-speed and also offer a 27.1 surround sound system, but they have to price it at thirty twelve thousand or less or no one will buy it! *spittle* </smk>

Modern? Reatta and Allante' aren't modern. Modern sales flop would be the Astra. Reviewed well, received well by those who drive it, people seem to like the looks - yet terrible sales.

Like Cadillac's hint of fins, maybe a hint of a bustle back? The line from the rear of the C-pillar extends into the bumper.

many times.

Oil closing in on 2005 lows. Brent Crude $50.39 RBOB Gasoline $1.107

Flu doesn't last 18 years.

This is not a political comment but an economic one: Where did all the free market capitalists I used to do battle with go? This is classic stuff for them. Economic darwinism, global trade, etc.

AWD is available. In the Camry ES350 it is not. In terms of soft, entry lux, sedans, there isn't much for it to compete with. I find the interior a bit dull in style, but I can't say anything about it's quality. Style wise, even the Malibu can out shine this one... so I expect the Lacross will crush it.

Ok. My turn. So there is this cute little Starbucks Barrista that has been making eyes at me. Exactly what I like <shorter than me, dark hair, faux hawk, beard> so I can't help but check him out. Day before I went to Germany, I went in without my co-workers for the first time. He gave me my tea and muffin order for free. As a kindness when I returned, I brought him a small package of chocolate as a thank you. He came around the counter and gave me a kiss on the cheek and his phone number. I told him right there that I have a BF and I'm not seeking anything from him. He said that's fine. So we txt back and forth a little and in less than a few hours he's begging me to come over to make out. After I reminded him that I have a BF and I won't cheat on him, he went completely psycho calling me every name in the book. Apparently, being nice to someone who has been nice to you indicates a desire to f@#k. I had no idea. I guess I'm not really asking for advice, just venting.

Too soon.... way. just have fun with it for now.... no one says you have to go off and date other people.... it'll just solidify if it was meant to be.

I went from a DOHC 3.4 litre Cutlass Supreme to a CTS 3.6. I've taken both of them to the edge and slightly beyond. Now I don't rallycross like you, but I do understand the difference between a well balanced RWD car and your typical, front heavy, torque steering, FWD, car. What I'm trying to say is that the Cobalt SS has shown it's chops on the Nurburgring and beat Audi S5s and previous generation M3s and tied the Nissan GT-R R32. Now I know that the 'Ring isn't the only measure of a car, but that the Cobalt SS can even run with those big guns should really tell you something about it's abilities. Can't you give the hot little Chevy a chance?

Oh, I know it's no wood stove, but it can certainly keep the whole house warm. I leave my furnace set at 50 degrees to "catch" the temperature as it falls after we let the fire go out. When we're running the fire, it keeps the house in the low 70s. The fireplace is located in the living room and the stairs to the second floor come down about 5 feet away, so the heat travels up the stairwell and does the second floor as well. The setup of the heatalator is rather ingenious I think. At the bottom back of the fireplace is a 6" x 4" vent that runs into the basement. That helps to feed the fire with air. My house is drafty around the doors already even without the fireplace running. However, I do know that we wouldn't have a comfortable temperature in the house with the furnace at 50 and no fire... so we've gotta be having some heat gain.

I know I'm not going to get a rational answer to this.... but GM produces a FWD car that out handles and out runs previous generation M3s.... If the car is doing that to RWD cars of twice the price, what advantage does RWD bring to the table?

I'd want to be in charge of advertising. If you think Lutz talks a lot.......

We have a firebox heatalator with forced air circulation, so it's not just a regular fireplace.

I've seen, but they don't catch my eye like the black ones do. With that crew, you should be shopping for a Traverse!

How tall are you? The back seat of my CTS with a sunroof was quite comfortable...... erm..... so I've heard. :unsure:

I've driven a Malibu compared to an Accord. Fit and finish seemed on par but the style of the Malibu's interior (in the right colors) just blows the Accord out of the ballpark. Sure the Accord's 4 revs high nicely, but that's because it has to. The Ecotec isn't as smooth at approaching redline, but it feels like it doesn't have to work as hard to move the car around either. Didn't drive the Camry but have ridden in one. Toyota is trying hard to beat out the last gen Century for boring with that car. As for the 1-series, I just wish he'd give the CTS or 9-3XWD a chance.

CTS is 191.6 G37 is 183.1 .... but what's 8 inches among friends.... :AH-HA_wink:

Not denying the great cars you picked, but still The RX-8 can seat 4 as long as the two in the back are under 5ft tall. The G37 is a full 10 inches longer than the 1-series, that's why I didn't think it would fit in your list. What about the 9-3xwd? I'm guessing the CTS is too big even though it's just slightly larger than the G37. What of the new Camaro?

I'm scratching my head trying to come up with all of them: 1-series Impreza A3

Cobalt SS is faster around Nurburgring than an E92 coupe. The Cobalt SS can be purchased with Stage II kits.

That's not how it works Larry... you get pregnant IN the box.