Drew Dowdell

Just more foreign humping idiots who fail to understand how important the big three are to the welfare of this country.

We decided to scrap the Solstice idea. We found a package for $520 that includes round trip airfare and our choice of DTS or Mustang convertible. With the money we're not spending on the Solstice, we're going to do an overnight in Key West or take my parent's boat out for an overnight.

With the top up? The luggage only has to be in the trunk from Fort Lauderdale to Miami and back.

We're going on a 4 day visit to my parents' place in Miami. Budget is offering a Solstice for $357.00. Albert really wants a convertible <and I agree>.... the other choice is a Mustang for $341.00 which makes the Pontiac a no-brainer. But how small is the trunk? Can we get two small roll aboards in there?

Hardly. When congress nationalized then Penn Central and other railroads, the Union Pacific, Santa Fe, Burlington Northern, Chessie System and others all survived. Conrail was allowed to reorganize under federal supervision and became quite successful. After it was clear that it could stand on it's own, Conrail was sold off to the CSX and Norfolk Southern who both have thrived ever since. This is exactly how the banking should work. If I were in Obama's place, I'd want control of the banks too. They're the ones who F-ed it up this much. They clearly can't be trusted. Form Congressional National Bank. Combine all the failed banks into that, then sell off pieces once it's been profitable enough to recoup any taxpayer losses.

You've been talking about that possibility for almost a year now (and I agree that it makes sense). It has nothing to do with Biden.

We're using it on this site. It gives decent results but it's more for e-commerce sites than BBSes like this.

See? It's not us! Webster changed the definition way back in 2003! Gays aren't redefining marriage! Dictionaries are!

It's not a liberal v. conservative thing so don't take it there. Quite honestly, I don't know which way Roberts would fall as a conservative but not (as much) a constructionist. Scalia and Thomas are both self avowed constructionists when interpreting the Constitution. They claim that they strictly interpret the Constitution in the way the framers intended it to be read. They cannot hold that position AND hold that DOMA does not violate the Full Faith and Credit clause. It's one or the other. It would be extraordinarily hypocritical <even for these two> to try and hold both positions. The "liberal" justices subscribe to the idea that the Constitution is a living document that was intended to be changed over the years. (this is the position I hold, the framer's wouldn't have provided an amendment process otherwise). If you subscribe to the idea that the Constitution can be interpreted in different ways, it's not hypocritical to suggest a different interpretation of your own. I'm not saying the "liberal" justices are never hypocritical.... just that they aren't in terms of constructualism.

DOMA itself is an overstep of authority. It violates the Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution quite blatantly. Parts of it have already been ruled unconstitutional by the 9th circuit. I expect a full ruling against it will come as soon as Scalia or Thomas is off the bench. Those two will rule in favor of keeping it but be incredibly hypocritical and partisan when they do.

No it doesn't. DOMA basically takes the Feds out of the state level decisions.

That's really what it boils down to. Sexuality should not determine how laws apply to you.

There's more Mini than Infiniti in that interior....

I don't get it. What is stylistic about a giant black slab on the front of the vehicle?

Was he trying to make an AuroraBird?

I'll post it if you really want me to.... but suffice it to say that 25% of this site's population are of alternate sexuality and a large segment of the "regulars" are gay. A great many more members of this site care about gay marriage than there are members who care about B-pillars....... not that there's anything wrong with that.

The gay marriage fight isn't about legislating something that doesn't exist into existence. It's about recognizing that something already exists and the laws don't fairly address that something. It is not in society's best interest to prevent the stabilizing factor that comes with marriage and banning gay marriage won't end gayness or gay couples being together. All it does is prevent the legal protections that marriage provides. It's almost spiteful. Sometimes I wonder if the people who are against gay marriage are just worried we'll be better at it than them.... I'm going to be with Albert with or without gay marriage. What do "the haters" care if he gets to inherit my house tax free in the sad event I'm run down by a Pruis?

Amazon Dolphin - The Amazon River dolphin or boto has been reported to form up in bands of 3-5 individuals enjoying group sex. The groups usually comprise young males and sometimes one or two females. American Bison - Courtship, mounting, and full anal penetration between bulls has been noted to occur among American Bison Penguins - In early February 2004 the New York Times reported that a male pair of chinstrap penguins in the Central Park Zoo in New York City were partnered and even successfully hatched a female chick from an egg. Elephants - Males, who in elephants live apart from the general flock, often form "companionships", consisting of an older individual and one or sometimes two younger, attendant males with sexual behaviour being an important part of the social dynamic. Same-sex relations are common and frequent in both sexes, with Asiatic elephants in captivity devoting roughly 45% of sexual encounters to same-sex activity. Giraffes - Male giraffes have been observed to engage in remarkably high frequencies of homosexual behavior. After aggressive "necking", it is common for two males giraffes to caress and court each other, leading up to mounting and climax. Such interactions between males have been found to be more frequent than heterosexual coupling. Bonobo - A matriarchal society (unusual amongst apes), Bonobos are a fully bisexual species -- both males and females engage in heterosexual and homosexual behavior, being noted for lesbianism in particular. About 60% of all sexual activity in this species is between two or more females. While the homosexual bonding system in Bonobos represent the highest frequency of homosexuality known in any species, homosexuality has been reported for all great apes (a group which includes humans), as well as a number of other primate species. Do I need to continue?

Mazda followed by Nissan followed by Chevy.

"It" is natural. "It" occurs in many species. "It" occurs in every society in every time.

Please list the "legit" reasons to oppose it.

What is "gay propaganda"?

I'm not one of those people who is stuck on the word "marriage" on a government level. I DON'T want homosexual civil unions if heterosexuals get separate laws in marriage, but I would take civil union if that is what was offered to heterosexuals also. Basically, whichever law that allows me to legally bond with my partner should be the same law that allows a heterosexual couple to be joined.

and this thread is done.

Some of you are going to hate the comparisons I'm about to make, but work with me here. Honda Accord coupe V6 - 19/29 - 271hp Honda Accord coupe I4 - 21/30 - 190hp Nissan Altima coupe V6 - 19/26 - 270hp Nissan Altima coupe I4 - 23/31 - 175hp Hyundai Genesis coupe V6 - 20/29 - 210hp Hyundai Genesis coupe i4 - 18/26 - 300hp BMW 3-series coupe I6 - 17/26 - 300hp Toyota Solara coupe V6 - 18/26 - 210hp Toyota Solara coupe I4 - 22/31 - 155hp at 3,300lbs.... ahahahahah. Chevy Camaro coupe V6 - 18/29 - 300hp.... with the Camaro, you quite literally can have your cake and eat it too.