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Buick News: Don't Expect the Opel Adam to Come As A Buick Anytime Soon
smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Buick
They don't need the Adam. Even the urban hipsters aren't buying the Mini Coopers and Fiat 500s, those little cars don't sell. The demographic that shops for Buicks surely isn't looking for a car that small. Better to focus on crossovers, that is what selling. -
The S Class does very well in China well also being made there. The S-class does well everywhere, and it has to be made there to sell there because of the import tax laws in China. If you buy an S-class or E-class in the USA it is made in Sindelfigen, Germany.
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1/3rd of S-class sales are China. But when Mercedes sold 373,000 cars in China last year, that beat their US sales so that makes sense. They sold 738,000 cars in Europe, I think they are more worried with the European market, and the S-class has had the same grille for like 25 years, I don't think they are styling the car for the Chinese.
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I bet "right size" means bigger. The CTS is already the biggest car in its segment, hard to make it any bigger. If the ATS gets bigger it becomes the size of a 2nd gen CTS, then you get back to that 5-series size at 3-series price problem. I don't think the size of the car is the problem, packaging is. I also hope they don't start styling Cadillacs to suit the Chinese market, because that will spell problems here.
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That W211 E63 is a good idea. Here is my list: Have to have an AMG S65. I like the AMG 6.3 idea, and need a convertible so and SLS Roadster Although I might go with the Gullwing doors on the SLS, because I have another convertible, Phantom Drophead Need a Mercedes 600 Pullman Landaulet, the #1 Dictator car of all time. McLaren F1 for a supercar.
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Tesla posted a $74 million loss in 2013, $294 million loss in 2014, and $889 million loss in 2015. I get that they need to increase spending to get the Model X and Model 3 out. But losing close to $1 billion when your total sales are $4 billion is a dangerous position to be in. And they could turn that around, but I wouldn't crown them champions just yet.
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I am a fan of Tesla, I like the product. But they don't make money as a company, and they are the only game in town. So what happens when 10 others enter the electric car space? I think one day EV's could put an end to gas powered cars, but it will take years, maybe decades for the batteries to get to where you can have 300-400 mile range and 0-60 of 7.5 seconds in a $25,000 car. The EV has to cost the same or less than the gasoline counterpart to take over. Eventually it will, but not today, and if Tesla don't start turning a profit they won't be around in 2030 when it does happen.
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Well, as long as you have yet another excuse for Mercedes. It isn't an excuse, Tesla sold 25,000 Model S in the USA in 2015. That is a good number for a $100,000 car, but there aren't any other pure EVs anywhere near that price range, and Tesla as a company had one model. The the Leaf was the only $30,000 EV and the Volt, i3 and Ford EVs didn't exist, Leaf sales would triple. People like to say how the Model S outsells the S-class, that means it outsells many other cars too. The Model S outsells the XJ, A8, 7-series and Quattroporte combined. The big difference is the Model S doesn't make any profit, the S-class does.
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I was more thinking of base price over $100,000. Cadillac isn't going for volume, but ATS, CTS, XTS, XT5/SRX all start under $46,000. And we know there is at least one, maybe 2 crossovers below XT5, and a sedan below ATS. Cadillac is going right into CLA/GLA and X1 territory just like Infiniti and Audi. They are all doing it. If Cadillac didn't want volume they wouldn't be planning an XT1 or CT1.
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I would trade my 5.5 liter naturally aspirated V8 for the twin turbo version in the CLS63 for the daily driver. McClaren Mercedes SLR which is one of my all time favorites Aston Martin DB9 convertible 1936 Mercedes 540k Spezial Roadster Baroness von Kriger 5th car would be a Tucker Torpedo, with honorable mention to the Hudson Hornet, which had a 5 liter straight 6.
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Good choice on the Tucker Torpedo, that was going to be one of my 5 also. I also was going to pick a CLS63 since it is a bit more special than an E63. And even though I picked the S550 in the 4 liter thread, the problem with the S63 is one day you'll pull up next to some one with an S65, and wish you had the top model. I need to think about my other choices to round out my list. CLS63 and Tucker are probably in my top 5 though.
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I think it is a good idea to offer 3 versions so they cover everything from basic hybrid to pure EV. Covers all he bases. Looks sort of like a large mouth Elentra though, it isn't a very good looking car, better looking than a Prius, but not better looking than other $20 thousand something cars.
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Pssst!! Cadillac is NOT, repeat: NOT racing mercedes to sell millions upon millions of vehicles in every price class. How about just 1 car over $100,000?
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So they are just doing putting out the same cars with different skins. Sounds about right. This is what will lead to both MB and BMW ending up loosing their luxury status as they become a true Chevy, Ford or Dodge to the US market. They are loosing that Luxury status as now they are just an anyone auto. Why bother buying an auto that anyone can have? Poor fit n finish and reliability to boot. And Cadillac can't beat them why? You do realize CLS and GLE coupe add about $10,000 to the price to what an E-class or GLE. They are putting out higher end models, with greater status (even if just perceived) with higher profit margins.
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The cost probably isn't that high to do what Mercedes is doing. The C, GLC, GLC coupe, E-class and soon CLS all ride on the same MRA platform, the 2 liter 4 and 3.0 V6 and 4.0 V8 are used in all (or will be soon). They all have the same transmission. So the cost is just in body styles, it no different than ATS, CTS, Camaro. If Mercedes is going to make a c-class coupe and convertible, making a coupe body style on a crossover probably makes sense.
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Cyclone/Typhoon are good calls, I like the 2nd Gen Corvette also. Excellent call on the BMW Z8, those sell now for 2-3 times what they cost new 15 years ago.
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Yeah...and I thought I was gonna be unique with both the Aurora and the DB5You beat me to it. I was searching high and low for the perfect BMW M6 pic that you snuck your post in before me. COOL! I prefer the 1st generation Aurora. I agree with your assessment of the DB5. I owned a 2nd gen Aurora 4.0 for ten years in black with tan interior so I had to put it on my list.
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Any Northstar Cadillac, the 4.9 V8 Cadillacs, GMT360s, Lincoln Town Car, Lincoln Mark VIII. Lots of American iron in this range. I just realized in the 3 liter thread, we all forgot the 1996 Ford Taurus SHO 3.4 liter V8. Oh well, too late now.
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I always liked the retro look Jaguar XJR, it was sort of a mafia hitman looking car. That 2005-2008 era was great. The DB5 should be on everyone's list. I was temped by an E-type 4.2 liter, but I went with the DB5 as my 60s euro car, and I had to put an Aurora 4.0 on there since I owned one.
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And I didn't forget, the best for last.
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A Rolls-Royce starts about $200,000 over a 7-series, so there is room in between them. BMW skips the $100-200,000 market, with the exception of the i8.
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Looks ugly. This thing looks bad from every angle. It looks like an over sized Explorer with an over sized Continental grille and it's a total disaster. The 3.5 liter ecoboost is fine, 400 hp is enough for a vehicle that no doubt has poor handling and shouldn't be going fast anyway. It is almost like Lincoln is trying to prove Mullally right that they should have been killed off.
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The roof is lower, the body is longer. I actually thinks this looks better than the GLE coupe, I think the styling works better here than on the bigger, and otherwise older design of the GLE. I am not a fan of crossover coupes, but people are so thirsty for crossovers they'll buy it.
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It looks fine, but not really any wow factor for me. Nothing seems exciting about it, so I'll have to see what the production car looks like. They will build some form of it though, the Avenir and Avista will end up the same place as the Chrysler Phaeton and Atlantic.
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Drew, are you guys trading in the Encore? Not any time soon... just already decided we need to move back up in size next time around. I'm going to eventually sell the Honda and replace it with a truck of some sort You should get a Pontiac Aztek, you could even cut the roof off the back to make it a pick up. That would be sweet and if it gets trashed hauling supplies, well who cares, it is an Aztek.On the Encore I like the new interior, it sort of reminds me of the newer Hyundai interiors as far as the shapes and design go. Bit I think it is cleaner, less busy design and more horizontal which makes it seem larger.
