Cory Wolfe

Haha... System of a Down rules! :D

I agree on the front one... but I always liked Pontiacs having "Pontiac" inscribed to the rear bumper. Hmmm... See below... BTW, nice Fiero! :D :rotflmao: Haha... wow... Anyways, speaking of too many lights... I never understood why two amber bulbs were needed... but I must say, it looks cool at night! :P Same here... why two reverse lights? I guess it made it easy to back up at night! :lol:

Haha... it's never been a contest for me (on these boards, that is, so far... *grins devilishly* )... In all seriousness, I have alot of free time and am a very sociable poster. No postwhoring from me. So far. NOS may temp me into it... *grins devilishly again* But hey... I'd make a great mod since I'm always around! :lol: :D :P Although, I'd probably be too immature since I would mess with NOS's posts like over at MD. Hehe... That and the mods/admins don't like me enough because I'm different. B)

I'm not very patient...

Damn... that's alot older than my 1954 copy of Popular Mechanics... :P Cool. B)

Okay... :blink: So... it doesn't look like Pontiac has much of a chance to introduce another good racing derived name. Looks like they're going to abandon it all together anyways, though... <_< I just hope they start adding to the 'G' theme... G4, G6, G8... ugh... I guess any combo of Grand, Fire, Sun, Am, Trans, Bird would work! :lol:

Just bought this too. :P It's awesome as well. I'm really liking "Hypocrites" so far... B) :D

Yes... He's a pimp, I'm a pimp, all of us Em fans are pimps. :D (I guess I need to take a pic of my collection since I don't have a snazzy computer that won't f**k up all the time and be too outdated for stuff like that. :lol: ) Anyways, I bought it today. It's awesome, as usual. I'm still lmao at "Fack". That song is hilarious... :P Love the live performance of "Stan" too. It is my all time favorite Em song, and it's cool to hear it live with Elton John.

Well, Satty-the-unconvincable, you can go find one and post it. :D Until then, you can go by this: No, it doesn't show what you want, but something like it. :P Plus, my point about posting this wasn't about being "redneck" or not, just the demographics since you seemed to really dish out the BS in the thread about NASCAR in "The Other Guy's". So...

Oh.. but you had enough time on your hands for Cort's? Huh? :P Haha... no worries, I tried to make it hard. My problem is that it isn't for me... so I can't judge. Hopefully it is... BTW, did I mention how important that last part is? :D

Yeah... I have a soft spot for the Vehicross (don't we all? :lol: ) I mean, it's weird, but so cool at the same time. It really is the coolest vehicle ever... Okay, I'm still kidding. :D

No... but that doesn't mean I didn't tell her... about it... ya know... :D

Yay! :D Pretty soon he shall be mine! :lol: Haha...

I know... This was just to show Satty that his blabber about the demographics of NASCAR were just that, blabber... False blabber at that. I finally found the proof I've been looking for forever. :P So yes... NASCAR sucks and the cars are fake, but atleast Satty was proved wrong. My grandma will be thankful of that... she didn't like his false stereotyping. :lol:

Yep, I'm back in regards to the trivia forum. First up... a Fiero quiz! :D Short Answer Answer each with a simple answer; 1 point each. Who designed it? What automatic transmission did it have? Where was it produced? What award did it recieve? What was the code for the Getrag 5-speed? What month and year did production start? True or False Answer each with true or false, correcting the false; 2 points each. For 1987, the "Iron-Duke" was rated at 97hp. Lotus helped in the design of the updated suspension for 1988. T-tops were available on the GT for 1988. $30 million was spent on redesigned suspension, vented disc brakes, and a rear sway bar for 1988. At the Milford proving grounds, Fieros with turbo-charged V8s were secretly tested. The Fiero recieved a 5 star frontal crash test rating. Essay Answer with a detailed explaination; 10 points. Why was the Fiero cancelled? In approximately one week from today, Saturday the 24th at 12:00am, I will collect scores and announce the winner(s). Shortly afterwards, I will post the correct answers. Through PMs, I will give the prize choices to the winner(s). BTW, the last one is very important. :AH-HA_wink: Also, there really are prizes. Just minor ones, though. :P

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Pontiac has long used racing sourced names since the '50s and through today. However, they seem to be abandoning it with the only names left being GTO and Grand Prix, both of which have questionable futures. Of course, Pontiac could return to using them, but could they possibly adopt new ones? Ones Pontiac has used... Grand Am Grand Prix GTO Bonneville Trans Am LeMans Formula GT Ones used by other manufacturers... Monte Carlo Daytona Sebring Monaco Baja IROC Grand Sport Grand National But are there still ones that could be possibly used? I've had no luck in searching... Any suggestions/ideas? All I can think of is PA's own Pocono Raceway. :D

Here ya go... Need I say more? :P

Pure beauty. B) (although, is it me or is it's windsheild huge?)

What?!?!? The Vehicross is like the coolest vehicle ever! How can you diss it? :P

[quote name='turbo200' date='Dec 16 2005, 05:30 PM']I said based on the GP referring to its W-body origins, poor use of exterior bulk, and overall modest interior accomodations. That it's FWD, well that's just personal opinion, not that FWD is a bad thing. And this car would be a lot better if the W-body weren't so ancient and the interior was richer; it's already very fun to drive.[/quote] Okay, I understand. [quote]LH cars average transaction price was much much lower than the current LX cars. Also LH had more models, and I'm not sure that your facts are right. 300 is selling as much as all THREE Chrysler LH cars were selling at that time, and between the Charger and Magnum Dodge is selling 120k vehicles per year. I don't know what the Intrepid used to sell, but I'm pretty sure it's not much more than that, and the average transaction price for the Charger is nearly 30k! That's a lotta dough for a Dodge midsizer.[/quote] Well, I don't even know if my facts are right. :lol: [quote]Difference of opinion. I think the '80's and '90's were some of the worst years for all GM brands, with some exceptions, in particular the Fiero was a pretty cool little car. I WOULD NOT like to see an all FWD lineup. We already have it and look at how piss poor it is. This is a chance for Pontiac to become somehting out of the ordinary again, beyond what we're normally used to.[/quote] Well... you have to understand, this is me we're talking about. I only really care about performance and styling. In those ways, I feel those years were better for Pontiac than now. Like I said, lots of turbos (I love turbos) and lots of manual transmissions (much moreso than now... and... I love them, ofcourse). That and there was that mid-engined... :D Also, I too, would not like to see an all FWD lineup. I never said that, just explained that Pontiac was the best at FWD performance at the time (in the US, that is; other countries got much more exciting vehicles as they seem to always do). If I had my way (which I don't), I would have every Pontiac be RWD. The thing is, the General won't let that happen so I always like to stick to reality and base my wants off of what's possible. You know... because I have nothing against FWD and stick up for it when people bash it. [quote]Aztek. ribbed cladding. need I say more? though chevy's styling has been nothing to crow about either. I honestly don't know which was/is worse off?[/quote] You cannot base your entire opinion of brand's styling off of a single vehicle and something minor like cladding which not all Pontiacs had and can be removed if one really hates it enough. I look past those and in that way, Pontiac's styling is and has always been the source of my love, my passion, my fanaticism for this brand. [quote]I won't say tainted. This is only my suggestion. It's up to GM whatever they want to call it. So you can call it something, I can call it something else. I think Grand Am is a little feminine sounding, maybe it's just the connotation I have with years of secretary's cars. So I guess I did say tainted now, huh? Sorry, just a matter of opinion. I think Catalina sounds coolest, if anything, though I'm sure there will be a number of objections to that name too.[/quote] *cough* rebadged Corsica *cough* Say wha...? Did you say tainted? Okay... thought so. [quote]GTO will have GTO spec styling. Leave that out of this. I happen to love that Firebird. I said modern heritage, what I mean is exactly how the Camaro was done is beautiful. But I am not saying to use the Firebird only. Pontiac has a number of great past designs, and they have great current cues as well to draw off of. Pick at liberty, and draw something that has personality all around.[/quote] Okay, even then, only a reincarnated Firebird should have a Firebird's "modern heritage". [quote]You're right. It can be futuristic and I'd have no problem at all. But I also think the Camaro looks futuristic. It's edgy and modern certainly. It also incorporates old cues, but it looks straight out of this and next decade. It looks awesome. Retro style can be done for the future. But if they choose to go a completely opposite route, I won't be mad, just as long as it's drawed interestingly and aggressively and with passion for details.[/quote] Exactly, but I wouldn't exactly call it retro. To me, retro is a copy, which it is not. It has what I said is fine. Something like that I would be fine with as well. Still, I would rather each decade stay modern for that certain decade. I have always felt that styling and design should move on with time and forget the past, but not eliminate it. Know what I mean? It's nothing against styling of the past, as you know... I'm infatuated with '80s and '90s styling. BTW, sorry if I sounded bitter. That comment about Pontiac's styling... yeah, it bothered me and put me in a bad mood. :P Am I hard to talk to? Haha...

Some people are just retarded... that's all.

You know... My choice is to put the G6 on "Zegma" with the GTO being a version of the coupe... but I totally disagree with you, even though I agree. Let's see... [quote name='turbo200' date='Dec 16 2005, 06:08 AM']Are you a Pontiac fanatic at heart? Do you lust over the '69 Firebird like i do. That dramatic nose, the raising strong shoulders, all accuentated by a strong yet shapely rump. Ah, beautiful car.[/quote] Yes, I am a Pontiac fanatic at heart. One of C&G's biggest. No, I don't really lust over a '69 Firebird. It's my least favorite styling for any Firebird and the generation that is the most similar to the Camaro. Other Pontiacs behold my lust. [quote]Pontiac really could use a revival. A return to its performance roots and design roots are the necessary steps to give this brand a reason to exist, and a reason for people to lust after it. The "not enough" G6 just isn't this product, the GXP tries, but is FWD and is based on the GP, Torrent is a piss-poor excuse for a poor man's BMW, and GTO is anonymous, not exactly what I am seeking out of my Pontiac.[/quote] I realize that the GP GXP isn't the greatest vehicle, but to put FWD and being based on the GP as its biggest downfalls... I mean, what about it being FWD is bad? Honestly? C&D said it was the most fun Pontiac sedan they've ever driven. Torque steer isn't a problem with it. So... that leaves weight distribution as the only problem with it being FWD. That is still something that can be fixed to be close to perfect as you can get with FWD. I'd say the W-Body is its biggest downfall. If it had a better FWD platform... I don't think anybody except FWD haters could possibly bitch. [quote]Have you dreamed of owning a modern RWD sedan or convertible from Pontiac? How about it starting right around low 20's and not going much higher than 30k for a sweet engined, lightweight convertible even. Yes the current GTO is all these things, but it's also hanging on the balance.[/quote] Lightweight is a stretch... I'd hardly call the GTO nor the current G6 that. Lightweight to me is below 3000lbs. Otherwise, it needs to go to the gym regardless of its engine size. [quote]What poetic justice. Camaro RWD platform breathes new life into a new division. Keep in mind Chrysler is now selling LX cars at a total annualized rate of 270k units. That is a higher price, with not good interior quality or incredible style depending on your taste, and they're Chryslers. Depending upon how you look at that last one, Pontiac is not better off.[/quote] Yes, but you forget to mention that the LH cars sold better. [quote]Let's discuss for a moment the Epsilon cars that will be available at that time: Aura, Malibu, Buick Epsilon, 9-3, and 9-5. Am I forgetting any? There will be plenty of FWD choices for those who can't handle the snow with modern tech and RWD. Let me have my RWD. Let GM offer choice. Let there be something DIFFERENT. And then maybe GM will begin to change minds, and really change Pontiac into a viable brand with some real cachet.[/quote] Well... if GM offered choice there'd be both a FWD and RWD midsizer for Pontiac. :P J/k That and I always found Pontiac to be a viable brand, moreso in the late '80s and early '90s than today (so far). They were then the best at FWD performance. Turbo GP, turbo Sunbird, turbo GA, Quad4 GA, Quad4 HO GA, V8 Firebird/Trans am, Turbo T/A, Fiero Formula... Sounds awesome to me, regardless of drive wheels. Styling was there too, you couldn't get much better than Fieros, Firebirds, GPs, and GAs. Now all there is for styling is the Solstice. [quote]Let's be honest: Pontiac is as rental as Chevy, and with a history of offensive styling. That's a pretty bad combination. Aside from the GTO and Solstice, there's just not much there.[/quote] Please explain "offensive styling" to me. I want to be enlightened. [quote]Please, let's change GM for the better. Ever dream of that mysterious, dark, and cool Firebird in black? Want to own a modern equivalent of it?[/quote] Not really... a modern equivalent of an 84-88 Fiero? Yes. 64 GTO? Yes. 65 GTO? Yes. 66-67 GTO? Yes. 68-72 GTO? Yes. 82-92 Firebird? Yes. 93-02 Firebird? Yes. 65 Catalina? Yes. 73-75 Grand Am? Yes. 67-69 Firebird? ...No. [quote]What if the new G6 were called Catalina or Tempest and had modern interpretations of the styling cues on that famous Firebird. What an awesome car that would be. What about a RWD Pontiac with handling equivalent to the last BMW 3-series, for around 24k, with a great engine, and with nice features, and of course classic Pontiac aggressive styling. What a novel idea, something cool.[/quote]Uhh... No. "Catalina" belongs in the past, Tempest is a possibility, but Grand Am deserves the name more than Anything. You can't bring up tainted either... *cough* Tempest... rebadged Corsica *cough* Are you saying retro? Slight retro? Either way, No. Slight reminders of the past are okay by me, but not retro. Especially if based on that Firebird. If it must be retro, it should be based on a GTO, unless you plan to save the Firebird instead. Duh. As those details... as long as the base price is below $20k, it sounds alright. That is... unless you meant classic Pontiac styling as in retro. That would be bad. Let's move into the future, not jump back to the past. Mmmkay? Aggressive Pontiac styling can be as modern as anything.

:lol: @ Fly.

Okay... a while ago the post counts were turned off in the Lounge. They turned them back on a while after that. However, one count that shows on one's profile, the post count calculating in which forum you post the most in, never was affected. So... Now the post counts are royally f**ked up.