Oracle of Delphi

Elliot Gould- SNL

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I agree, I stopped attending NASCAR events in Dover, Delaware.

It's nice to see my future car win an award or two or three or four ...

Slight Adult content, view at your own risk! http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2082/savethewhalend9.jpg

Best wishes on both your Birthdays!

Word is Mr. Lutz is going to call it "Custom-S"!

I agree, GM should hire this guy. His technique is refreshing.

Hmmmmm, Chevy?

Wagons are not my thing. When I see one I think Brady Bunch car! Some people seem to like them so here you go.

Well time will tell who is right and who is wrong about Zeta. I expect in a year to a year and a half we will all know the public perception (not talking enthusiast here) of what this car is. I think we all know what will happen to Pontiac should Holden strike out once again in North America. Pontiac can't afford to have a model sitting on dealer lots 1-2 model years after it first went on sale once again. I look forward to when it does go on sale, I will see the sales figures as soon as GM does, my charts and graphs await the data. I will track the sales data like a killer whale tracks a wounded seal, then in a year to year and a half we should all know if the public likes this car or not. Until then, I will not speak much on Zeta. Chevy globalization is tops on my list these days anyway, that in itself, is a means to an end for me. I wish you all peace and the beginning of a Happy Thanksgiving season!

As you well know, lemmings blindly follow. I doubt I will ever be described as a Lemming. 1. You favor blindly bringing a car to market with a 6.0 liter engine, as gas prices continue to climb ever higher (3.29 today). 2. The exchange rate between the US and AUS dollar continue to work against importation of this car. 3. After the Gearheads get their fill who will buy it? Who wants Lemming Motors now? Oh on a side note the OPEC countries have now decided to cash in their American dollars. I wonder what that will do to the exchange rate between the US and AUS, just heard that on the news.

Get your Grand Prix, I love mine!

We will never agree on this, in the meantime Chevy Globalization marches on!

I can always sell the facilities off.

Closing down a subsidiary that sells what, 30K if that, in its home market makes perfect sense to me. Remember GM is supporting their R&D, Engineering and Production for a subsidiary that produces something like 1500 vehicles per week at 60 - 70 vehicles per hour if that with overtime. Saturn sold way more cars than that and GM assimilated their (R&D, Engineering and Production). Where is Saturn now? Can you point me to their headquarters? I do believe you will find Saturn is just a name in some GM office building in Troy, Michigan. So GM can and I think eventually will do the same to Holden as it did to Saturn, economics will force them to. I hope I am there to see it personally, that would be a dream come true for me, even better than when I watched Saturn being assimilated. In reality there are no divisions or subsidiaries, there is just GM, what most people think are divisions or subsidiaries is just smoke and mirrors and a marketing team. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" Dorothy! There is no Great and Powerful Wizard in OZ (Pun Intended), there's just GM in Detroit and it can globally brand cars there and export the designs to the world also.

Not really, I'm just reiterating the party line. However if I were CEO of GM, I would close Holden down, after all it's just one assembly plant, engine facility, Lang Lang test facility and Holden headquarters staff. I then would move RWD design and production back to North America where it belongs, and at this point in time is cheaper to produce.

Don't be jealous K.C., he has more to fear from you, than he ever has from me.

You keep saying that, and I again repeat "Chevrolet globally". How does this work for you? Change GM Holden to Chevrolet Australia, or Chevrolet Asia Pacific or even Chevrolet Worldwide, the same with Opel, Vauxhall and GMDAT. After all Chevrolet will be/is GM's global brand everywhere but in North America, the worldwide subsidiaries should reflect that change in global thinking as well. Cadillac will still be marketed as the worldwide luxury brand. In Europe Corvette is sold as a separate brand, that needs to be rolled back into Chevrolet. China is still a quandary, but let's see if Buick even survives. If it does, thank the Chinese. North America is a special case, but if GM keeps losing market share here, I think you know what will happen, even if you don't want to admit it.

I'm just happy that GM marketing is doing something!

Holden RWD models? They only have one platform which is RWD, that is Zeta (regular and stretched), their models as you call them are the same model with either more or less content. What more could you expect anyway, Holden has just one assembly plant to it's name. Much like Saturn had just the Springhill plant, and we all know what happened to it.

You do know those crappy Daewoos as you call them are part and parcel of Holden? Holden runs Daewoo for GM, and here I thought Holden could do no wrong by you! http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb48...11/ai_n17958647

Anything from GM Europe has to be good, after all I work for them.

You know as well as I do, I can't stop Zeta (at least not yet), but I can slow it's progress down, and throw a roadblock up here and there. But the decision of no El Camino was a group decision.

I will buy one too, if/when it comes to the USA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Montana